Democrats excluding Catholics

[JoshuaIsLord]

what you think is a devaluation of education others believe is a better way to do education. Who is correct? you? not likely!

I’ll stand by my earlier statement. It is biblical sound and from the Holy Writ itself.

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

The Curch teaches that capital punishment can be allowed under certain circumstances. Why do you ignore Church teaching.

Please ask the same of the Pope Francis and USCCB.

Modern Church figures such as Pope John Paul II,[3] Pope Francis,[4] and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops[5] have in fact actively discouraged the death penalty or advocated for the out-right abolition of the death penalty.

3: a b Papal encyclical, Evangelium Vitae, 25 March 1995 Archived 12 October 2012 at the Wayback Machine.
4. Ieraci, Laura. “Pope Francis calls death penalty ‘unacceptable,’ urges abolition”. National Catholic Reporter. Retrieved 3 July 2016.
5. “Catholic Campaign to End the Use of the Death Penalty” (PDF). United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

 

[Imdaman]

Murder is and should be against the law. in the USA. This is not a religious argument. What are you talking about?

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

Murder is wrong. Murder of anyone is wrong. Please explain how we are to deal with abortion so that it can be seen as moral?

Capital Punishment is classified as “Judicial Homicide”

You are right. Murder is wrong in all of it’s forms.

You can’t have it both ways.

 

[Ridgerunner]

We are the riches nation on the face of this earth. There should not be one child starving to death or mal-nutrition within our borders.

Other than the children of abusive parents and those who were brought here from other countries for slavery, there probably aren’t any who are starving or facing malnutrition. There are certainly some whose parents were impoverished in Appalachia when Obama had his war on coal, but none are starving, to my knowledge.

 

[Imdaman]

Imdaman:

War is sometimes necessary.

When the Church believes it is just.

Yeah OK what’s your point? Is it now OK to push a Catholic view pint on the citizens. Regardless of your answer here my point stands that sometimes War is necessary.

 

[Imdaman]

Imdaman:

There is nothing intrinscally evil about COntrolling your borders and limiting the number of people allowed into the country. The church teaches the opposite of what you are saying so I will side with the church and not your fantasy world.

Tell our Pope that. He is one that spoke out against it.

Again you do not know what you are talking about the Pope said that countires were within their rights to control their own borders.

 

[Imdaman]

Imdaman:

Jesus said their will always be hungry, poor, disadvantaged.

That is always the lame cop out.

We are the riches nation on the face of this earth. There should not be one child starving to death or mal-nutrition within our borders.

SO get out your pocket book and start helping stop being such a whiner and do some work to help these poor people.

 

[Imdaman]

Imdaman:

what you think is a devaluation of education others believe is a better way to do education. Who is correct? you? not likely!

I’ll stand by my earlier statement. It is biblical sound and from the Holy Writ itself.

Go ahead and stand by it. But I don’t think you know the best way to educate our kids. So I won’t take your advice. Nothing in Church teaching requires that of me!

 

[Ridgerunner]

I keep wondering when one of these open borders folks on CAF is going to tell me he/she sponsored an immigrant family.

 

[dvdjs]

Sticking to the facts, we know there was some negative press on the issue, and the DNC responded by providing support.

This is not a DNC issue at all.

Again the facts are simple: The local party supported him from the get go.
Some interest groups supported his opponent, who got some press attention.
The DNCC, instead of honoring an open primary, did opt to support him, and given the closeness of the election may have made the difference.

They are also at odds with the narrative of the Cardinal.

 

[dvdjs]

And the Democrats do

That is not an honest representation of the the position of the Democratic party, nor its voters.
If your goal is sharpen the wedge for the sake of divisiveness to aid opponents of the Democratic party, then this is great rhetoric.
If your goal is to solve the abortion problem, this is a very poor way to go about it.

 

[Theo520]

I keep wondering when one of these open borders folks on CAF is going to tell me he/she sponsored an immigrant family.

Does hiring them to do your yard, or clean your house count?
They sponsored them AND got a lower cost of service

 

[dvdjs]

That does not say a lot about the moral character of these Catholics.

Or it may be saying something about your ability to judge other’s character, motives, and principles.

 

[Theo520]

I keep wondering when one of these open borders folks on CAF is going to tell me he/she sponsored an immigrant family.

They deny they are are ‘open borders’ or that the DNC shifted in that direction under Obama.

I even linked to statements by both Hillary and Bernie where they said they would not enforce immigration law unless you were caught in criminal activities.

Maybe they advocate ‘relaxed’ borders

 

[Ridgerunner]

If your goal is to solve the aborion problem, this is a very poor way to go about it.

No. The Dem party is the most significant barrier to ending abortion on demand in this country.

 

[dvdjs]

… one of these open borders folks on CAF

Here at CAF? Must be another forum.

 

[Ridgerunner]

They sponsored them AND got a lower cost of service

No. Most open borders Americans are happy to get less expensive service, but they do not actually sponsor any immigrants. They force their neighbors to do that.

 

[Imdaman]

Imdaman:

Murder is wrong. Murder of anyone is wrong. Please explain how we are to deal with abortion so that it can be seen as moral?

Capital Punishment is classified as “Judicial Homicide”

You are right. Murder is wrong in all of it’s forms.

You can’t have it both ways.

So you are ok with someone killing your mom in cold blood while you just sit and watch… You wouldn’t kill that man to stop him. YOu would just let it happen! NIce to know. I won’t count on you to have my back.

 

[dvdjs]

No. The Dem party is the most significant barrier to ending abortion on demand in this country.

Interesting to see you back away from the Catholic pro-life position to one of “ending abortion on demand”.
Do we actually have abortion on demand in the country?