Democrats for Life?

[Online_Knight]

I don’t know if this is the right place or not… but for all Catholics who are fiercely pro-life, yet align with the Democratic Party on other issues like the environment and social programs, there is a home for you. democratsforlife.org/

 

[Ferdinand_Mary]

NOTICE: As a reminder, discussions of particular candidates are banned in accordance with IRS rules governing tax-exempt organizations. Please keep this in mind as you continue the discussion.

 

[Newbie2]

Why would someone want to be a democrat for life?

10 minutes is far, far too long.

Ta da boom. uch:

 

[IrishAm]

Thank you. We pro-life Dems are few and far between, and we tend to keep our heads down, primarily because we irritate both the Dems and the pro-life folks so much . . .

 

[MiddleBear]

Thank you. We pro-life Dems are few and far between, and we tend to keep our heads down, primarily because we irritate both the Dems and the pro-life folks so much . . .

OK get the Democratic Party to change their platform to pro life. Also stop nominating abotion activists for president, senator, representative…etc.

Until then I’ll continue to vote GOP.

 

[StMarkEofE]

I don’t know if this is the right place or not… but for all Catholics who are fiercely pro-life, yet align with the Democratic Party on other issues like the environment and social programs, there is a home for you. democratsforlife.org/

Sounds so Oxymoronish to me knowing the vast majority of Democats and their distaste even the hint of protecting the unborn. If I were you I would surely look out for vitrial headed your way from your own political party.

 

[SeekerJen]

OK get the Democratic Party to change their platform to pro life. Also stop nominating abotion activists for president, senator, representative…etc.

Until then I’ll continue to vote GOP.

Even if the GOP puts a pro-abort, pro-gay marriage candidate on the presidential ticket? It’s looking more and more likely.

Seriously, why can’t we have a third party? I know I’ll be chastised as usual for being hopelessly young and naive, but the two-party system doesn’t appear to be working so well.

 

[spangler1982]

I for one am very dissapointed with the organization in DFL. In September of last year, I donated to them $100 for a membership. I figured that since PRIESTS FOR LIFE advertised and provided a link for it on their website, it must be a worthy cause.
I was supposed to receive a T-shirt, some bumper stickers, and a couple of other things. They never sent them, even though I sent them various emails. They promised to send them, but they never did. But they sure remembered to send me envelopes asking for more donations, as well as a letter telling me my membership was expiring, and that it was time for another $100 donation. I never sent it!

 

[rlg94086]

Even if the GOP puts a pro-abort, pro-gay marriage candidate on the presidential ticket? It’s looking more and more likely.

Seriously, why can’t we have a third party? I know I’ll be chastised as usual for being hopelessly young and naive, but the two-party system doesn’t appear to be working so well.

Third party? …we have many, many parties: politics1.com/parties.htm

The only impact any of them have had is as a spoiler for one of the two major parties. The only exception is the Republican Party, which became a major party after the Whigs collapsed.

 

[hasikelee]

I remember there was a Democrats for life (prolife) community on livejournal. They always got pro-choice liberals posting like crazy because the people read it as for life, not for life. Ha, get it?

 

[SeekerJen]

Third party? …we have many, many parties: politics1.com/parties.htm

The only impact any of them have had is as a spoiler for one of the two major parties. The only exception is the Republican Party, which became a major party after the Whigs collapsed.

Yes, there are indeed many parties. We need a serious contender. Otherwise we will continue in a two-party stalemate and the voice of the pro-lifers will continue to be drowned out. The GOP knows that 1) pro-lifers by and large will not vote Democrat, and 2) if they appoint a pro-abort, they can woo away some of the Democrat-leaning independents. So why would they continue to uphold the pro-life platform?

Yep, a third party: one that is pro-life and adopts the classical Republican stance on government spending.

 

[rlg94086]

Yes, there are indeed many parties. We need a serious contender. Otherwise we will continue in a two-party stalemate and the voice of the pro-lifers will continue to be drowned out. The GOP knows that 1) pro-lifers by and large will not vote Democrat, and 2) if they appoint a pro-abort, they can woo away some of the Democrat-leaning independents. So why would they continue to uphold the pro-life platform?

Yep, a third party: one that is pro-life and adopts the classical Republican stance on government spending.

The “GOP” is not a small group of people in a “smoke-filled room.” The reason a pro-choice candidate may be elected is because there are not enough pro-life voters, or some of the pro-lifers don’t think it is as important as others of us do.

So, that said, what makes you believe that you can garner enough pro-lifers into a third party that can actually win? The better strategy IMHO is to bolster the one major party that has a pro-life plank and continue to help grow the pro-life presence in the party rank-and-file.

Those pro-lifers who have a Democrat slant allow their personal views of Social Justice to trump their pro-life views, so they won’t join a third party with conservative values. They are the very small group of Democrats for Life, and they are doing their best to try to grow the pro-life presence in their party’s rank-and-file.

 

[StevenFrancis]

Thank you. We pro-life Dems are few and far between, and we tend to keep our heads down, primarily because we irritate both the Dems and the pro-life folks so much . . .

I’m with you, and yes, I have to keep my head down. I wish there were a ‘Catholic’ party, or that Catholics could be under the Vatican or some such thing by agreement with the country they live in. It’s all utopian thought. Caesar will be a Democrat or a Republican until big money, PACS, and other special interests and lobbies are kept out of politics by law, and we have publically funded elections. At that time, the need for political parties would be pretty much be over. If all candidates were on an even financial playing field, and not having to hustle money, elections would be decided on issues rather than our current binary nonsense. 2008 will be my first Presidential election as a Catholic, and I find there is no one I can fully support in either party. I might be doing a write-in for the first time ever. Pretty sad. U.S. Citizens are forced to have to choose between whether to take care of the poor and disenfranchised, and end an un-just war, and fear mongering, citizen hating, illegally seated regime OR support someone who will lie to us about doing something about pro-life issues once they’re elected, and in all other respects continue to hate, scare and disrespect American citizens.

As and added bonus, if Giuliani is the Republican candidate, (which he may very well be), then we won’t even have the conscience cleansing lies about doing something for the pro-life movement, because Gules is an unabashed baby murderer from the get go. In fact, if he weren’t such a fan of un-just war, he’d be the most liberal person running for President. Except for war, he’s a little to the left of Castro.

The U.S. seems to be a very cold place for Catholic teachings. I didn’t even realize this until my conversion.

The one possible scenario that will allow me to not do a write-in, will be if Guliani is the Republican candidate and Obama, Biden, or Edwards are the Democratic nominee. If both of the candidates are anti-life, then we can start moving down the list, in order of importance on other issues. I can live with Obama, Biden or Edwards on virtually every thing except life issues, and I can’t live with Guliani on ANYthing.

Good luck to all.

How about the American Ethical Party? We have from now until 2016 to put it together and make inroads. With any luck at all, however, Jesus will come before then, and we’ll look back on all this…smile and shake our heads and how silly we’ve all been.

In the mean time…render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to the Lord that which is the Lord’s.

The peace of Jesus Christ be with you all,

Steven

 

[SoCalRC]

OK get the Democratic Party to change their platform to pro life. Also stop nominating abotion activists for president, senator, representative…etc.

Until then I’ll continue to vote GOP.

Even though all the GOP frontrunners for President have long pro-choice records?

We have to be careful about serving two masters.

 

[SoCalRC]

The U.S. seems to be a very cold place for Catholic teachings. I didn’t even realize this until my conversion.

I always knew in my gut that I was holding my nose when voting, but it took a Swiss co-worker, who found both our main political parties wholly incompatible with her understanding of Catholicism, to really make me confront that fact.

 

[Sheeniac]

Even though all the GOP frontrunners for President have long pro-choice records?

Untrue. Someone running on a ‘law & order’ style campaign definitely does not, nasty rumors to the contrary.

 

[SoCalRC]

Untrue. Someone running on a ‘law & order’ style campaign definitely does not, nasty rumors to the contrary.

Actually, only one third tier candidate has legitmate pro life credentials. But it doen’t matter, the GOP just gives lip service to the issue anyway, so why should its candidates be any different?

 

[rlg94086]

Actually, only one third tier candidate has legitmate pro life credentials. But it doen’t matter, the GOP just gives lip service to the issue anyway, so why should its candidates be any different?

As this is a “Democrats for Life” thread, please list the Democrat candidates who have ***any ***“pro life credentials,” “legitimate” or otherwise.

I will vote for the best candidate who will advance pro life causes, regardless of how “legitimate” people think their “pro life credentials” are.

 

[SeekerJen]

As this is a “Democrats for Life” thread, please list the Democrat candidates who have ***any ***“pro life credentials,” “legitimate” or otherwise.

Discussion of individual candidates is banned on the forums.

 

[Sr_Sally]

When I donate to political parties, charities, and the like, I don’t expect bumper stickers, coffee mugs, or t-shirts as a reward. I’d rather they use that money to spend on the cause that compelled my to donate in the first place.

I for one am very dissapointed with the organization in DFL. In September of last year, I donated to them $100 for a membership. I figured that since PRIESTS FOR LIFE advertised and provided a link for it on their website, it must be a worthy cause.
I was supposed to receive a T-shirt, some bumper stickers, and a couple of other things. They never sent them, even though I sent them various emails. They promised to send them, but they never did. But they sure remembered to send me envelopes asking for more donations, as well as a letter telling me my membership was expiring, and that it was time for another $100 donation. I never sent it!