Democrats go after Limbaugh

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gnjsdad said:
Look at the way he treats former soldiers like John Kerry, John Murtha, Chuck Hagel, Wesley Clark, and Max Cleland. He not only disagrees with them politically, which is his right, but he disparages their service. That cannot sit well with soldiers.
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Can you give some examples? I don’t listen to Rush regularly, so the only one I know about is John Kerry. In fairness to Rush, some of Kerry’s own shipmates disparaged his service.
 
Reading through much of this thread keeps reminding me of this quote from Jonathan Swift ~

“It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”
 
MelanieAnne said:
Reading through much of this thread keeps reminding me of this quote from Jonathan Swift ~

“It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”
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It is interesting … people arguing what they believe someone said, without actually listening to a recording of what he actually said.

Some speakers in the past were handicapped by not having actual recordings of their voices. Even transcripts can be in error. Just think of the important omission when the first man set foot on the moon; the microphone missed an important word. And think also of the lyrics to a silly song … the potato - potato song … friends of mine in the UK are totally puzzled by it unless they HEAR it actually sung in standard American English.

But in this case we are blessed because we actually have Rush’s voice recording (both on his Web site www.rushlimbaugh.com and on YouTube) and we also have his defenders such as Mark Levin ( www.marklevinshow.com ) and click on audio rewind … it’s free.
 
MelanieAnne said:
Reading through much of this thread keeps reminding me of this quote from Jonathan Swift ~

“It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”
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Limbaugh is a devil worshiper and a druggie. How in the name that is Holy could you believe it? er him?
From Iowa with Love:p
 
Senator Harry Reid sent a letter to Clear Channel demanding Rush Limbaugh be censured. The four-page letter was signed by 41 members of the U.S. Senate.

Mr. Limbaugh was given the letter and he has now placed it on eBay to be auctioned off. The proceeds will be donated to his favorite charity.

If the signers of the letter are so concerned about the military, Mr. Limbaugh has requested that the signers of the letter match the high bid.

Full details are available on www.rushlimbaugh.com
 
Al_Masetti said:
Senator Harry Reid sent a letter to Clear Channel demanding Rush Limbaugh be censured. The four-page letter was signed by 41 members of the U.S. Senate.
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And this is the real point of the entire matter. Let’s say just for the sake of argument that Mr. Limbaugh unequivocally stated on his show that anyone who is opposed to the war is a traitor and that any soldier who is opposed to the war is a disgrace to his uniform. Guess what? That’s his right.

The U.S. Senate has absolutely no business trying to apply pressure to censor what any private citizen says. Period. End of story. This is just another example of the totalitarian impulse that increasingly dominates the Left in the U.S. (and has always tended to dominate the Left everywhere).

Senator Reid is the one who should be censured for such a blatant misuse of his office.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
mlchance said:
And this is the real point of the entire matter. Let’s say just for the sake of argument that Mr. Limbaugh unequivocally stated on his show that anyone who is opposed to the war is a traitor and that any soldier who is opposed to the war is a disgrace to his uniform. Guess what? That’s his right.

The U.S. Senate has absolutely no business trying to apply pressure to censor what any private citizen says. Period. End of story. This is just another example of the totalitarian impulse that increasingly dominates the Left in the U.S. (and has always tended to dominate the Left everywhere).

Senator Reid is the one who should be censured for such a blatant misuse of his office.

– Mark L. Chance.
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The foolish behavior of this Congress never ceases to amaze me. And to think that the Senate was once thought of a an august deliberative body.
 
mary_bobo said:
The foolish behavior of this Congress never ceases to amaze me. And to think that the Senate was once thought of a an august deliberative body.
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Yes, and somewhere along the way they forgot what their job was, so they are no longer governing. What they ARE doing is anyone’s guess at any given moment, but we get to pay for the show.

The senate needs to get off the subject of censuring a private citizen for their exercise of free speech and get back to the business of responsibly governing the country.
 
gnjsdad said:
Here is Rush disparaging the military service of two veterans who disagree with him on the war: Paul Hackett and Max Cleland.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZFrCXUOfz8A
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I watched it. Explain to me how he disparaged their military service? He said they are “hiding their liberalism behind a military uniform.” Sounds to me like he is disparaging their liberalism, not their military service.
 
rlg94086 said:
I watched it. Explain to me how he disparaged their military service? He said they are “hiding their liberalism behind a military uniform.” Sounds to me like he is disparaging their liberalism, not their military service.
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I would also distinguish between disparaging currently active members of the military and politicians who may have once served in the military decades ago. Apples and oranges. But perhaps such distinctions are lost on those who merely seek to criticize?
 
rlg94086 said:
I watched it. Explain to me how he disparaged their military service? He said they are “hiding their liberalism behind a military uniform.” Sounds to me like he is disparaging their liberalism, not their military service.
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From the video…

Rush: Paul Hackett is a “staff puke” who went to Iraq “to pad the resume…”

If that’s not disparaging his service, I don’t know what is.
 
gnjsdad said:
From the video…

Rush: Paul Hackett is a “staff puke” who went to Iraq “to pad the resume…”

If that’s not disparaging his service, I don’t know what is.
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I agree, that is somewhat disparaging. I don’t know what context it was in, as the “staff puke” was with “if you will.” Was he quoting a caller? Regardless, it wasn’t right. Regarding the “padding the resume,” I thought that was in regards to a trip to Iraq after his service, but I will listen again.

How did he disparage Cleland’s service? And, what do you think should be done about it? Should Congress take him off the air?
 
rlg94086 said:
I agree, that is somewhat disparaging. I don’t know what context it was in, as the “staff puke” was with “if you will.” Was he quoting a caller? Regardless, it wasn’t right. Regarding the “padding the resume,” I thought that was in regards to a trip to Iraq after his service, but I will listen again.
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Thanks. I’m glad to see you keep an open mind about things. It’s something I myself find difficult at times. Others here would try to spin no matter what evidence is presented that conflicts with their point of view. 🙂
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rlg94086:
And, what do you think should be done about it? Should Congress take him off the air?
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Absolutely not. That would be the worst thing imaginable for a country that supposedly values free speech.

I do listen to Rush on and off and when he annoys me, I just switch stations. I guess that’s the most reasonable thing to do.

Don’t like Rush? Don’t listen.
 
gnjsdad said:
From the video…

Rush: Paul Hackett is a “staff puke” who went to Iraq “to pad the resume…”

If that’s not disparaging his service, I don’t know what is.
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“Puke” is incorrectly spelled, by the way. It is “pogue”. Often shortened to POG; “persons other than grunt”; pronounced “puke”.

Read more here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogue

The word “puke” is “almost” a term of affection and endearment in the military. For example, fighter pilots usually “believe” that single engine fighters are the only way to fly and to fight. However, the F-4 Phantom II had two engines. So, sometimes, the single engine fighter pilot crowd referred to the F-4 pilots as “multi-engine fighter pukes”. [Going the other way around, a single-engine fighter of the era was usually referred to as the “Thud”; the name coming from the sound the plane made when it hit the ground.] Noting denigrating in any of this; it’s just the way folks in the military talk.

Actually, the bigger “insult” is the expression “multi-engine”, which normally refers to cargo planes and bombers and also the FAA’s civilian pilot license rating for multi-engine aircraft (that anyone could get with a few hours training), which were deemed less noble in a combat environment than a single-engine aircraft.

To the purists, a true fighter plane would never have more than one engine. So, for example, today the F-16 is a true fighter; whereas the two-engine F-15 … well, it is multi-engine fighter, more administration and management than swashbuckling derringdo.

I suggest any interested folks get a copy of Jerry W. Cook’s excellent book: “Once a Fighter Pilot …” or read several of the memoirs of other retired fighter pilots.

I will see if I can find a source of military jokes. Non-military folks may be put off by the routine use of apparently disparaging terms. But that’s the way military people, particularly those in the combat arms talk.

The “debate” between pilots of varying types of aircraft has gone on for a very long time and can get a bit intense.

I would suggest that Mr. Limbaugh was merely expressing language that he picked up from his many friends and admirers in the military.
You surely must know that military members have an alternate expression for “staff puke” that is routinely used to describe pencil pushers and folks in the office who show up in combat zones in a sort of “drive-by” capacity.

But the expression used fifty times a day by the military to describe these persons is totally unprintable. And I can’t use it here.

Actually, it has two forms. One with all four words (two of which are in hyphenation) and the other form (used most frequently) consisting merely of the four first letters.
In addition, senior officers (of the flag or star ranks; i.e., admirals and generals) who display certain traits deemed undesirable by folks in the field are generically referred to as “pefumed princes” or “porcelain princes”.

Folks who show up on missions but who have no purpose being there are often referred to as “strap hangers” an allusion to subway riders].

There are generic expressions for complainers; the nuns used to call them “sugar babies”. The military version had two words, the first of which was “candy”; probably can’t use the second word here.
Everything and everyone in the military has a somewhat-less-than-flattering nickname.
Max Cleland made a career of trading on his wounds which were quite severe … got his legs blown off. Until it was commonly learned that he had actually been in a totally non-combat situation and carelessly handled and allowed his own grenade to drop at his own feet endangering everyone in the vicinity.
So, in summary, “lighten up”. Don’t be so sensitive.
 
Got timed out whilst editing my previous purple prose.

Visit www.rushlimbaugh.com to learn details of the eBay auction of the Senator Harry Reid letter … with proceeds to the Marine Corps relief for families of deceased members.

Here is the actual Rush Limbaugh / Harry Reid letter auction site:

members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=rush-letter-for-charity
Getting back to my original thought, explaining Limbaugh’s use of “pogue” (pronounced “puke”) and the declasse self-deprecating (and “others-deprecating”) humor employed by folks in the miitary.

The “work” they do is so dangerous that they use gallows humor and deprecation constantly.

The other day I was gabbing with a fellow who had spent several years flying Air Force tanker planes. He called himself “just a gas passer”. This was an exceedingly dangerous job, by the way. He flew the old KC-97 tankers, with piston engines that were too slow for the bombers and fighters they were refuelling. They carried aviation gasoline which was highly explosive for their own engines and for the jets they carried JP-4 which was almost as bad. And their piston engines and propellers were highly tempermental; equipment failures were common.

C-130’s (and their crews) are sometimes referred to as “trash haulers”.

The A-10 fighter is called the “Warthog”.

The B-52 bomber is called the “Buff”, but one of the words for which Buff is an acronym is unprintable. The first three words are Big Ugly Fat …"

There is a story (probably told by fighter pilots) that the pilot of an F-16 [single engine fighter] called a tower saying he had a “rough engine”. The tower called back saying that a B-52 (with eight engines) had priority because he had declared an emergency owing to having lost an engine. To which the single-engine flghter pilot replied, “Ah, yes, the dreaded seven-engine approach”.

And then there was the bomber pilot who referred to his having to organize “the fighter-pilots’ Easter egg hunt” … suggesting that fighter pilots have a somewhat less than grown-up attitude toward life in general. And many fighter pilots would ask “what’s the problem with that?”

And, relative to this sort of standard military criticism, I actually heard a fighter pilot complaining to his Commanding General that his Time Magazine was late. And he was serious.

So, I would suggest that folks criticizing Mr. Limbaugh cut him some slack. Mr. Limbaugh is EXTREMELY popular with members of the military.
 
Some of my friends report having difficulty with the link I posted for the eBay auction of the Harry Reid letter regarding Rush Limbaugh.

It may be because I use a Mac and they use PCs.

So this may work:

Visit Google and type in the following search parameters:

" eBay Limbaugh Reid letter "

Within the first few results will be the eBay link to the right auction.
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