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ChocolateCake
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Here we go again…being political and hating the Democrats!
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Jen95
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I can see a faithful devout Catholic staying in the Democratic party to vote in the primaries, but I don’t understand how they vote for Democratic politicians who are without a doubt going to enact policies against the Catholic pro-life position.
For instance, once you’ve seen Democrats like the NY Dems who enacted the pro-abortion legislation, I don’t know how any pro-life Catholic with integrity can stay in the Democratic party. No matter if their parents were Democrats for all their lives. (Wink).
For instance, once you’ve seen Democrats like the NY Dems who enacted the pro-abortion legislation, I don’t know how any pro-life Catholic with integrity can stay in the Democratic party. No matter if their parents were Democrats for all their lives. (Wink).
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upant
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Votes have consequences
Many have supported abortion by their vote. We will see the expansion of abortion in legislation not even associated with abortion
The VA governor, Pete B, etc
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meltzerboy2
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Really? They are in favor of abortion AFTER birth? Hard to believe since most people in favor of abortion are only in favor of the procedure under extenuating circumstances, and even those in favor of abortion on demand confine the choice of women to abort to the pre-birth stage. Do you mean that these politicians are all right with killing a newborn baby, whether it is healthy or not? Is this what they support?
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meltzerboy2
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No one is talking about killing a baby right after birth or at 2 years of age. The status of the unborn baby, however, according to the way I was raised, my faith, and my extended family’s views on the issue, plus what I have gleaned from other faith traditions, apart from Catholicism, as well as philosophical arguments, is a more complicated issue. I do respect the Catholic position, but I also respect other positions and the issues they raise.
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fredystairs
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Yes. The govenor of VA has come out and stated that after a botched abortion, they would make the baby comfortable and then do whatever the mother wanted. That included allowing the baby to die.
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Sirach2
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Interestingly, Rabbi Jonathan Cahn spoke last night about NY being under God’s judgment. They were the first to pass abortion legislation on April 10, 1970. NY was the first state to experience the immense spread of the pandemic when it hit the US on April 10, 2020. Coincidence? Or rather, a wake-up call.
I viewed a program on TV yesterday showing the actual premises of an abortion doctor. They showed a special sink with an over-sized garbage disposal, and used this to dispose of the fetus.
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Jen95
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You couldn’t care less about the Democrats platform?
I believe you are an experienced attorney with decades of experience.
And you just ignore what’s on the platform?
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Sirach2
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@Victoria33
Responding to your OP about Pete Buttigieg, were you aware that he is married to his male lover? His religious ethics re abortion or anything else would not be credible to me. I was elated that he lost in the primary,.
Responding to your OP about Pete Buttigieg, were you aware that he is married to his male lover? His religious ethics re abortion or anything else would not be credible to me. I was elated that he lost in the primary,.
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Victoria33
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Yes, I knew of that. He actually seems like a nice guy if one were to meet someone they did not previously know on the street but he follows this leftist thinking on matters like abortion.
And anyway, he is just a mayor of, South Bend. I mean, how many mayors around the country are there of cities the size of South Bend and larger? It doesn’t seem like that great of a qualification.
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pnewton
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I don’t care either, sort of. The platform of a party is not the guide of the party, it is a reflection of the party. So the only extent I care about the platform is that it is an indication of what most believe. So the change that needs to happen is what people who are Democrats believe. It is the individual hearts of millions that need to change. Change that, the platform will follow. A focus on the platform will only be a distraction in the job of changing people. We are losing the war for minds. Abortion is not longer leftist. It is also centrist. This must change.
That is why I find the word “infanticide” to be useless. That is no way to begin dialogue, right up their with, “You are wrong.”
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sealabeag
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Wasn’t he the guy who was all the go a few years ago with prophecies and end times stuff?
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JMMJ
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I like him a lot and hope he gets a cabinet position in the Biden administration.
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Sirach2
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I liked him a lot, also, but had he won in the primary, his influence against God’s plan for marriage would endanger others who could adopt this belief. As it is, Kamala Harris has a strong track record of fighting for LGBT+ rights. Not much difference, is there?
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Jen95
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You know these beliefs of fighting for lgbtq marriage and gender ideology is against Catholic teaching right? Why are you advocating for it here on a Catholic forum?
farronwolf
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I read the first post and skipped to my response.
Women, the gender of infanticide.
Women get abortions, not political parties.
I love women, but the blame lies with the people requesting and obtaining the abortions, no one else.
Women, the gender of infanticide.
Women get abortions, not political parties.
I love women, but the blame lies with the people requesting and obtaining the abortions, no one else.
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Sirach2
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Gee, Jen - I think you misread something in my post(s). I am certainly against lgbtq marriage, etc. That’s why I was glad when Buttigieg lost the primary, and is the same reason I am not supportive of Kamala Harris. We are in for a rough ride if she takes the helm.
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fredystairs
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I think we’re going to be in for a rough ride even with her being VP.
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Jen95
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I’m sorry, I did indeed misread / misinterpret your post! But @JMMJ was saying how much he/she liked buttegieg, so I assumed some of the admiration was due to lgbtq issues?Jen95:
Gee, Jen - I think you misread something in my post(s). I am certainly against lgbtq marriage, etc. That’s why I was glad when Buttigieg lost the primary, and is the same reason I am not supportive of Kamala Harris. We are in for a rough ride if she takes the helm.
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