Demonic problems

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Limankaro said:
This is not for everyone. Going into battle head on like they do, and doing so alone paints a target on your back.
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I agree with this. On the one hand, I don’t like telling anyone not to pray, but on the other hand, Auxilium Christianorum itself states that people should consult with their priest before they say the prayers and also that they should be aware that they may see an uptick in activity from praying those prayers. I would not really recommend that anyone who is not feeling strong go praying those prayers.

OP, if you want to pray those prayers, at least pray with a group. Frankly, I think simple Hail Marys and the basic St. Michael Prayer would be best for you at this juncture, at least until you speak to your priest, and then you can ask him to give you advice on how best to pray while you’re feeling oppressed.
 
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“Libelous?” No. It’s a reasonable inference based on the fact that you’re a “part time paranormal researcher” and you’re asking someone who’s having problems outside of what you’re qualified to do. This is something that needs to be handled by clergy and mental health professionals, in person, and not online.
 
I don’t know who you are, which is exactly the problem.

This is not a problem that can be handled online. Please stop.

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-Fr ACEGC
 
I think you need to rule out the possibility of physical effects an emotional issues which may be the underlying in all this then say your prayers in conjunction too. Take care and God bless
 
hopeful3542 said:
A vast majority of mental health professionals, even some who are Catholic, will not even entertain the possibility of a spiritual cause to a problem. Their diagnosis will reflect their narrow worldview.
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It won’t reflect a narrow worldview so much as it will reflect the inability of the natural sciences to talk about the spiritual. It’s not a failing of any mental health professional, nor of their profession in general. Medical science simply can’t diagnose spiritual issues. Let’s not dismiss professionals doing their jobs correctly. It would actually be inappropriate for a mental health practitioner to diagnose some kind of spiritual issue like this.
 
I tend to lean toward anxiety, given the (sparse) facts available. But, from years of daily contact with cancer patients and those who fear they may have cancer, there are certain aspects of anxiety that are relatively prominent.

In any event, the Church requires that medical causes be eliminated prior to considering a purely spiritual source. The Church does not practice medicine and the medical sciences do not perform exorcisms.
 
  1. Priest’s office.
  2. Doctor’s office.
  3. Stop the fascination with the paranormal, as you might be driving yourself crazy. The normal world is perplexing enough.
Here’s the rub: Anxiety can produce demons and demons may indeed provoke something similar to anxiety. Chicken or egg.

I normally fall in with anxiety because 1 in 5. Americans suffer from some form of Anxiety disorder. That is 64 million. Ponder that, if you will. Anxiety is the true epidemic of our age and runs rampant among the young, in particular.

Paranormal?

All bets are off.
 
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Thank you for all the replies, I very much appreciate the time and energy forum members have taken to give their considered (name removed by moderator)ut.

edward_george1 & The LittleLady & Fauken, yes you’re correct. I’m going to approach the Priest again tomorrow if he still hasn’t contacted me.

Tis_Bearself, thanks for the post and support. At this stage, I’m in two minds about sharing with the forum a more detailed account of my situation. It would be a longish post for sure. Once a person puts something online, it’s there forever. On the other hand, in my desperation, I’m eager to get the (name removed by moderator)ut of forum members on my issues. I will pray about this tonight, and may the Holy Spirit inspire me to make a wise decision.

Limankaro, I never thought of ‘Auxilium Christianorum’ like that before. Thanks for the advice. I’ve been going to Adoration two or three times a week, praying the Rosary daily, & reading Holy Scripture daily. I’ve been petitioning the Saints for their intercession also, but I think there’s room to grow in knowledge about their lives.

Tis_Bearself, you’re right, I’m going to stop going on ‘Auxilium Christianorum’ for now at least, and will listen to the advice of my Priest.

hopeful3542, thanks for replying. In reference to ‘Auxilium Christianorum’, no I didn’t discuss it with my Priest/Confessor, which was a careless mistake on my part. As I said to Tis_Bearself, I’m going to stop using ‘Auxilium Christianorum’ for now, and follow the guidance of my Priest. With regards to the symptoms I’m experiencing that lead me to believe I’m under demonic oppression, I’m going to pray earnestly tonight at Church on whether I should share this information on a public forum. It’s a difficult situation to describe and such a post wouldn’t be short in length.

edward_george1, you’re right. SteelArchangel may be well intentioned, but I’m going to seek the help of the clergy in conjunction with mental health treatment.
 
po18guy, Thanks for the link. Looks like it might be a helpful resource to pursue. Unfortunately, medical professionals aren’t experts in the spiritual realm. As I wrote previously, I’m going to pray tonight about whether I should share a more detailed picture of my predicament on the forum which would hopefully go some way to explaining why I think a demon or demons are at least partially responsible.

theorangeandblue, I don’t think I’m demon ‘possessed’, I think I’m demonically ‘oppressed’. I have what I believe are good reasons to suspect this, and will pray whether I should describe these reasons on the forum.

hopeful3542, Thank you for the post. I am going to see the Priest about this, and am hopeful this meeting can happen sooner rather than later. I take on board about the books on spiritual warfare/exorcism. I’ll still say the prayers of deliverance in Fr. Amorth’s books, but will resist the temptation to self diagnose with certainty.

celticmist, Thank you for the post, God bless you also.

hopeful3542, yes I agree that mental health professionals don’t acknowledge the realm of the spiritual. I look forward to discussing things with my Priest as soon as possible. And the answer is no, the Doctor and Psychiatrist were not Catholic. However, I spotted that the Psychiatrist was wearing a Cross around his neck, so I’d guess he’s a Protestant. I’ll ask him next time I see him.

edward_george1, you’ve got a point. Medical professionals have their place, and it’s not their fault they don’t know about spiritual issues.

po18guy, sorry I havn’t provided more detail on why I believe what I believe about my situation. I’m just repeating myself now but I’m going to pray tonight about whether to share on the forum a fuller account of my experiences, though I’m not sure anyone will have the time to read it all!

hopeful3542, yes I agree, I think the way forward is a balanced approach.

Thank you again to everyone who has contributed. The peace of Christ be with you all.
 
po18guy said:
Stop the fascination with the paranormal, as you might be driving yourself crazy. The normal world is perplexing enough.
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This.

An example, I am fascinated by medical drama TV shows, began in childhood when “Medical Center” was my favorite show.

Lost my husband in August, grieving is an ebb and flow process, but recently there has been more anxiety over it, I cannot get those last hours - moments in the ICU room out of my head. Every time I close my eyes it is there.

As I was watching a re-run of “ER” I realized that reading and watching medical drama as an escape was adding to my anxiety!

What we feed our minds does have an impact on our mental health.
 
mike81 said:
not their fault they don’t know about spiritual issues.
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They may know about spiritual issues. It just isn’t their place to talk about it. It would be like asking your marriage counselor for auto repair advice.
 
They are advising about the medical and psychological. They’re obviously not advising about the demonic. Medical science can only say “this phenomenon can or cannot be explained by medical science.” It cannot conclude that someone is demonically affected somehow.
 
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