Descendant of Muhammed converts to Christianity

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Sedar Dedeoglu a Turkish citizen living in Germany converted to Christianity in 2001 and witnesses to Muslims. He is a direct descendant of Muhammed. Unfortunately he is being sent back to Turkey where he will be persecuted and likely killed. So much for the idea that Muslims won’t convert to Christianity and that “no compulsion in religion” means anything.
 
According to ZeeNews over 15,000 Muslims a year convert to Christianity. They face persecution and even death. Worldwide 6 million Muslims a year convert to Christianity!
 
6 million Muslims convert to Christianity every year, who knows how many leave Islam to join other religions as well, likely facing death.

So where are all these Muslims being killed for leaving Islam? Even if it’s just 1% that’s at least 60,000 people being killed a year…

Get real.
 
cestusdei said:
Sedar Dedeoglu a Turkish citizen living in Germany converted to Christianity in 2001 and witnesses to Muslims. He is a direct descendant of Muhammed. Unfortunately he is being sent back to Turkey where he will be persecuted and likely killed. So much for the idea that Muslims won’t convert to Christianity and that “no compulsion in religion” means anything.
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Islam is a satanic influenced religion. This is clear to anyone that has read their koran. Let’s pray for Sedar. He is one of the true believers and no longer a follower of Lucifer.
 
cestusdei said:
According to ZeeNews over 15,000 Muslims a year convert to Christianity. They face persecution and even death. Worldwide 6 million Muslims a year convert to Christianity!
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I don’t understand your statistics.

15,000 convert to Christianity per year
6 million convert to Christianity per year
 
You don’t see Christians killing people for converting to Islam!:mad:
 
If he goes back to Turkey he’s not going to be hanged or shot there it is a total secular government. The secular government runs the Mosques there and that is the reason there are the most moderate od states of Islam. He certainly will be a social outcast but its not like he’s going to hanged as if he was in Iran or Saudi Arabia or heck our own democracy we created in Afghanistan which still permits such things. IF he doesn’t preach on streetcorners he will surivie but I don’t think he could run for office there anytime soon. And there are tens of thousands of people who claim to be the decendant of Mohammed and judging on how many wives and lovers he had and his decendants were allowed to have that just might be accurate.
 
Wisdom said:
If he goes back to Turkey he’s not going to be hanged or shot there it is a total secular government. The secular government runs the Mosques there and that is the reason there are the most moderate od states of Islam. He certainly will be a social outcast but its not like he’s going to hanged as if he was in Iran or Saudi Arabia or heck our own democracy we created in Afghanistan which still permits such things. IF he doesn’t preach on streetcorners he will surivie but I don’t think he could run for office there anytime soon. And there are tens of thousands of people who claim to be the decendant of Mohammed and judging on how many wives and lovers he had and his decendants were allowed to have that just might be accurate.
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The question of their form of gevernment isn’t the issue, but the ubiquitous presence of fanatical muslims everywhere in the Middle East, who would have no qualms in hanging or shooting an apostate from Islam. Apostasy among Muslims is punishable by death.
 
RobedWithLight said:
The question of their form of gevernment isn’t the issue, but the ubiquitous presence of fanatical muslims everywhere in the Middle East, who would have no qualms in hanging or shooting an apostate from Islam. Apostasy among Muslims is punishable by death.
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Actually no the problem is that usually in the middle east the governments are under Sharia law and will kill such persons.
In Turkey Sharia law is outlawed as are fanatical Islam. There are relatively few terrorist actions in Turkey and such actions will be prosectued even more severly there by death than here in the United States where we have some 911 guys locked up for life. He is probably more safe there in Turkey than a place like Engalnd or France where radicial Isam is allowed to be practiced without government intervention because of liberal relativism that has infected western Europe. Turkey is the way Iraq should be run but isn’t.
 
I just quoted the stats. The 6 million is world wide I believe. Wisdom must have missed the recent murders of priests in Turkey.

Other news:

In England a Muslim school was caught teaching that Jews are pigs and Christians are apes. The response was basically “what’s wrong with that?”

In Pakistan 4 Christians handing out Christian tracts were beaten by a mob of Muslims. If this happened in the US the Muslims would protest.
 
cestusdei said:
I just quoted the stats. The 6 million is world wide I believe. Wisdom must have missed the recent murders of priests in Turkey.

Other news:

In England a Muslim school was caught teaching that Jews are pigs and Christians are apes. The response was basically “what’s wrong with that?”

In Pakistan 4 Christians handing out Christian tracts were beaten by a mob of Muslims. If this happened in the US the Muslims would protest.
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I don’t know, maybe you should try looking at this from the angry mob’s point of view? :rolleyes:
 
Wisdom said:
Actually no the problem is that usually in the middle east the governments are under Sharia law and will kill such persons.
In Turkey Sharia law is outlawed as are fanatical Islam. There are relatively few terrorist actions in Turkey and such actions will be prosectued even more severly there by death than here in the United States where we have some 911 guys locked up for life. He is probably more safe there in Turkey than a place like Engalnd or France where radicial Isam is allowed to be practiced without government intervention because of liberal relativism that has infected western Europe. Turkey is the way Iraq should be run but isn’t.
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I have to disagree. Can you tell me what happened to Fr. Santoro. What did he do to deserve death by these lunatics.
 
exoflare said:
I don’t know, maybe you should try looking at this from the angry mob’s point of view?
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That’s a incisive notion. I’ll have to use this myself next time this argument comes up. Everyone wants to excuse Moslems of doing evil.
 
Do we need any more evidence to show that Islam is that of Satan?
 
Montalban said:
That’s a incisive notion. I’ll have to use this myself next time this argument comes up. Everyone wants to excuse Moslems of doing evil.
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They don’t hesitate to bring up the Cruisades or witch burnings when the topic turns to Christianity.:rolleyes:
 
I’m a bit curious. You would think Muslims would be on this post right away. But they seem awfully quiet. When a big name Christian converts to Islam they trumpet it, puff their chests out, and act all happy. Now when one of theirs joins us we get dead silence. I guess the so-called “fastest growing religion” maybe isn’t growing as fast as they say.

In Algeria some of the people are converting to Christianity. They say “Christianity means life, Islam means death.” It could be that Islam is going to kill its way to extinction. I hope I get to write its obituary.
 
cestusdei said:
I’m a bit curious. You would think Muslims would be on this post right away. But they seem awfully quiet. When a big name Christian converts to Islam they trumpet it, puff their chests out, and act all happy. Now when one of theirs joins us we get dead silence. I guess the so-called “fastest growing religion” maybe isn’t growing as fast as they say.

In Algeria some of the people are converting to Christianity. They say “Christianity means life, Islam means death.” It could be that Islam is going to kill its way to extinction. I hope I get to write its obituary.
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It is my understanding that Moslems offer cash incentives to priests to convert from Christianity.

For in Islam it doesn’t matter *why *you convert, just that you do.
 
They do indeed. Think of how much they would give cestusdei to convert! I am worth millions! Think of how they would crow over my conversion. Ain’t gonna happen, not for all the money and oil in the world.
 
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