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Hello all- God willing you are all doing well during this quarantine time šŸ™‚

I am conflicted, tremendously. I have been in a relationship with a man, who is the love of my life (or maybe I have convinced myself he is) for 3 years now. We have been on and off a few times because of his inability to fully commit (marriage, kids, etc.). All of our arguments/talks/screaming matches, etc. are rooted in that. If it isnt one thing, its another- and he always seems to be blaming other people for his behaviors and his trauma-like worries about the future in marriageā€¦
(he is 44 years old, FYI never married, or engaged or children).
When we get into conversations and talk about the future, he never gives me a straight answer, which in return causes arguments and we just seem to go in circles.
I have turned to Mother Mary, my rosary, St. Padre Pio, St. Anne- just to name a few- for their intercession.
Our last ā€œbreakā€ was December 2nd 2019- he called me and made some unacceptable excuse of how he couldnt go on anymore and couldnt bare the idea of getting married and wasnt readyā€“so we broke up. I vowed to myself that this was the last time he was going to break my heart and I was never, ever, no matter what, EVER going to get back together with him, like I had a few times prior.
So, I turned to the 54 day Novenaā€¦i donā€™t remember how exactly I stumbled across it, but I did; something called me to say it. I prepared myself fully for it, confessing before hand and with my whole heart and soul, I begged Mother Mary to remove this person from my heart, to eliminate him from my mind and heart, if the intention was for him to not be in my life anymore- I begged, every night. I also submitted myself completely to the will of God. I told Mother Mary, constantly, that if the Lordā€™s will is for me to be alone in this life, but unite with love and life in the paradise of heaven, then so be it. I remember praying the sorrowful mysteries and submitting myself that night- I felt it in my gut; I was prepared for whatever the Lord wanted for me.
On day 20, January 26th 2020ā€¦guess who showed up at my doorstep? Noncommittal, heartbreaker 44 year old, with 2 dozen roses in his hands; just standing there, like a lost puppy.
(quick background; I am a 30 year first generation immigrant- I live at home with my mother and father; he had NEVER met my father prior to this and NEVER even been 2 miles within my homeā€¦this was a BOLD move.)
 
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I couldnt believe my eyes. My novena petition was granted.
He begged to talk to me (we hadnā€™t spoken since Dec. 2nd) and of course was emotional. I agreed to talk and we spent 5 hours in the car, just talking, crying, etc.
He was talking to me and explained how he felt so ā€œoffā€ without me, and that no matter what he did or said, he couldnā€™t get me out of his mind or heart.
I couldnt help but laugh a bit inside and thinkā€¦ā€œThat was Mother Mary pestering you!ā€
Here we are thoughā€¦April 2020 and nothing has happened. We are 3 months into trying to get this show on the road, and no matter what I say, what I ask, what I suggestā€¦he has no answer for me. Itā€™s uncertain, itā€™s like hitting my head against a brick wall. He loves me, but not enough to marry me? Though, will spend this long with meā€¦? Iā€™m beginning to get sick.
But then I wonder; was my petition really granted? Did Mother Mary interceed this way and send him back to me? Why did she send him back if his intentions are still the sameā€¦? Iā€™m conflicted, and confused.
But then I thinkā€¦perhaps She sent him back to me as a ā€œok, you askedā€¦here he is, still the same dumbo. Deal with itā€ and now I must own up my end of the bargain and pray for him, try to convert his mind and soul for marriage.
Is this my challenge? I love him dearlyā€¦I started another 54 day novena last week asking for him to be granted courage and to be free of any anxieties he has about marriage; perhaps Mother Mary wants that?
Someone, for the love of God; please shed light on what I should do. I pray, I talk to God always about him- and what my intentions are; how I want a husband to love and honor and children to raise to become Godā€™s people; my intentions are so pure, so honest. Can it all be tainted by someone like him; who keeps popping into my life disrupting me? Someone help :confused:
 
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This!
Novenas are not immune to coincidence. It has been proven, many times that this man isnā€™t husband material. Just move on, thanking God that you got away before marrying this man, or making any moral, legal, financial, or other commitments that would be difficult to break! There are several people on these forums that are entangled in marriages that should never have happened. Be glad that you are not one of them!

Stay safe during this pandemic. God Bless!!!
 
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he is 44 years old, FYI never married, or engaged or children).
When we get into conversations and talk about the future, he never gives me a straight answer, which in return causes arguments and we just seem to go in circles.
Iā€™m sorry, Devoted, that you are in this difficulty. Iā€™m sure itā€™s very painful. But heā€™s made it clear heā€™s not ready, and at 44 years old, he will never be ready.
You could give him an ultimatum: set a marriage date or leave me alone. He might do it, but he would blame you for his unhappiness for the next forty years.
Or you could tell him that youā€™re willing to be his friend but thatā€™s it. Back away from the romantic dream, and get on with your life. You have a friend who doesnā€™t want to be married. Thatā€™s sad, but once you recover, you will be glad you ended the relationship. Itā€™s clearly not good for you.
Our Lady can intercede and ask for miracles, but she also wants us to use our common sense. It seems as if you have enough information to make a wise choice.
 
Itā€™s been my experience that when prayers are answered with a ā€œyesā€, there is rarely any ambiguity. He would have shown up on your doorstep with a ring and a proposal.

Time to walk away. I wouldnā€™t even encourage a friendship. Would you want him still hanging around when you do find someone else?
 
Heā€™s 44, youā€™ve been dating for three years, and heā€™s not ready for marriage? Move on, forever. Donā€™t get drawn into this cycle of break up-romantic gesture-get back together-break up. If heā€™s not ready at this point, he never will be. His ā€œtraumaā€ about marriage is probably just a way to make you feel guilty about bringing it up. Heā€™s leading you on.
 
You two keep falling back together because it is convenient. You are afraid to be alone and rather than face that prospect, you are trying to rationalize his and your own behavior.

Screaming matches. Arguments. He ā€œCant bear the thought of getting married.ā€ These are not the actions and words of someone you should marry.

He has very clearly told you who he isā€”believe him!
Yes, he makes up and brings you flowers. Thatā€™s what men do that donā€™t want to lose someone. But he doesnā€™t want to marry you. He just wants you to be hanging on as is.

You need to end it and donā€™t look back. You cannot remains in contact because you are unable to see what he is doing. You need a clean break.

You are 30 years old! Donā€™t let him occupy any more space in your head! You are young and have time to find someone that will make you happy and give you the kind of relationship you seek.

This isnā€™t the guy thatā€™s going to do it.
 
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My goodness, how many red flags do you need?

-He doesnā€™t want to commit to marriage or kids, and at 44, itā€™s pretty unlikely heā€™ll change
-You two have ā€œscreaming matches,ā€ which isnā€™t a good way to settle disagreements
-He thinks showing up with roses ā€œlike a lost puppyā€ is going to fix things with you

Every minute you spend with this guy is a minute taken away from your life. You could be looking for a man who will actually marry you and have children with you; youā€™ve already spent 3 years on this dead-end relationship.
 
All, I appreciate such great feedback- seems like the answer is evident. Though, Iā€™m conflicted in my prayers. Why do I have a small gut feeling that me praying for him and us is something I was called to do? He comes from an italian catholic family, though they arenā€™t devout. His sister has married a jewish man and I believe has gone completely atheist, but thats another story.
I find that Mother Mary is calling for me to pray for himā€¦and I do; every night- I pray for his heart to soften and his soul to be set free of anxieties. I believe in my heart that no one prays for him, not even his mother.
A part of me feels that my devotion to him and this relationship will transform this man into what he was meant to beā€¦and a part of me is afraid of course to be single in this sex obsessed world; but nonetheless; just a whole emotional rollercoaster of scared, confused, conflicted these past 3 months and itā€™s very heavy on my heart.
thank you all for such an overwhelming but wonderful responses!
 
Welcome to CAF, @Devoted0702 , although I wish youā€™d not had this particular reason to join us! I gave you a heart because I want you to know that I do sympathize with what you. I gave the posters above me hearts because, in my opinion, theyā€™re all ā€œon the moneyā€ and giving you excellent advice.

Sometimes, we desperately, desperately want what simply isnā€™t in our best interest. Iā€™ll add that if he loved you in a way that bodes well for the future, he wouldā€™ve been wanting youā€”begging youā€”to marry him within that first year.

Another point that is a deal-killer is that he hadnā€™t met your father within at least two-three months. Iā€™m thinking that he knew your father would see him for what he is. Gather your courageā€”and a bit of self-righteous irritationā€”and permanently break with him, no matter what arguments, nir how many tears he cries. Period.

During this self-isolating time, youā€™ll need to consciously fill your hours so you wonā€™t mope and moan and ā€œif onlyā€ over him. Yes, definitely pray, but ā€œall things in moderation,ā€ including prayer! Donā€™t forget that your future is what you DECIDE to do with it. In addition to sewing, crafting, artwork, gardening, and cooking or baking, you can do so many wonderful things online: reading books, taking courses, playing games, or using chat rooms or avenues like our own CAF. Please stick around. Maybe youā€™ll even find a great guy here! I send you prayers and best wishes. šŸ™‚
 
You can pray for Godā€™s will for him, which may not be what you want for him. Continue to pray for him, but give up your wishes for him to change and leave his future in Godā€™s hands. Pray for yourself, and that God will open your heart to new people and experiences, for Gods will for your life and not your own.
 
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A part of me feels that my devotion to him and this relationship will transform this man into what he was meant to be
Iā€™m afraid you canā€™t change him or ā€˜fix himā€™. He is who he is, and he is not right nor ready to be in a relationship with you. Of course you can pray for him, but wanting to pray for him doesnā€™t equal staying in an unhealthy relationship.

You are caught up in an unhealthy cycle and you can break it. Surround yourself with your family and friends; this time, donā€™t let your resolve break. This rollercoaster will pass, and you will feel better for it.
 
A part of me feels that my devotion to him and this relationship will transform this man into what he was meant to be
Maybe it will, indirectly. Maybe losing you for real will cause him to reevaluate his life and quit treading water in his relationships. Maybe itā€™s the wake up call he ultimately needs to get his head right.

None of that means you have to keep dating him though. Heā€™s never going to deliver what you want, and what you want is perfectly reasonable. Your options, as I see it, are to move on. Like, really move on. Tell him in no uncertain terms itā€™s over and start pursuing a relationship with a guy who wants what you want. Or just accept that ā€œgirlfriendā€ is as far as heā€™ll ever want to go, and make your peace with that.
 
A part of me feels that my devotion to him and this relationship will transform this man into what he was meant to beā€¦and a part of me is afraid of course to be single in this sex obsessed world;
Your devotion to him for 3 years has not transformed him. You should never have to, and never hope to, transform anyone. You should marry someone you love as they are, not with the hope of changing them. And obviously, this guy is not what you want.

Afraid to be single in a sex obsessed world? What does that mean? You be you, donā€™t worry about everyone else. It is troubling that you see this man as the solution to having to deal with the rest of the world.
 
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The rest of the world views me as someone who should travel, climb the corporate ladder, use my looks and personality to ā€œget placesā€ā€¦my whole life since I was 16-17 years old, I have heard that. That a woman like ā€œmeā€ should always get what they want, no matter what.
When I tell them my dream goals of wanting a husband to love, to cater to, to give him babies and build a family, to go to church, to pray the rosary everyday with my babies and husbandā€¦EVERYONE looks at me like I have 6 heads; some even say that things like that donā€™t exist, that women shouldnt ever aspire to be that.
He sees that, he knows that and says countless times how much of a dream woman I amā€¦how that is how he pictured his life, to be with someone like me- clearly it isnt; he just uses that as fillerā€“

But its that, its his reassurance that he was looking for someone with the same traits and morals as me- and here we are. That is my comfort; he sees me as normal and everyone else may see me as crazy for wanting the simple things in life.
 
No, everyone does not think your dreams do not exist. Plenty of women are getting married and raising a family, some staying home, some still working. If people think you have 6 heads, ignore them. If your friends are saying that, get some new friends.
 
^this.

He isnā€™t the only man who will share your dream to raise a Catholic family. He may be the first youā€™ve found, but he isnā€™t the only one.

Going against what the world says you should want isnā€™t strange or unusual. Itā€™s certainly not strange or unusual enough to justify marrying an unsuitable man, because you fear being alone in a world that seems the opposite to what you want. I suggest you focus on building up a friendship group with others who feel more like you, because they are out there.

Iā€™d also (gently) suggest it may be your wording that is causing people to look at you with six heads. I completely understand the desire to find a like-minded husband and have a family together. But make sure you keep your identity, and that you donā€™t exist purely to ā€œlove, cater for and give babiesā€. Make sure the man you marry doesnā€™t take advantage of this. It may be people are picking up on this and believing you mean you want to live entirely for your husband. You have to live for yourself too.
 
I begged Mother Mary to remove this person from my heart, to eliminate him from my mind and heart, if the intention was for him to not be in my life anymore-
I think this is a mistake. A novena isnā€™t like a magic 8 ball. We donā€™t pray ā€œtake him out of my lifeā€ or whatever-- because he has free will. He can exercise that to keep coming back. What we pray for is the wisdom to discern and act.

And, after 3 years-- you have plenty of information to discern that this guy is bad news, and to act: kick to the curb with NO contact.

Shows up at your door? Slam it shut.

Calls you? Block him.

Tries to come over? Restraining order.

Hes not a good person, and youā€™ve wasted THREE YEARS on his nonsense.
how I want a husband to love and honor and children to raise to become Godā€™s people; my intentions are so pure, so honest.
He is NOT this person. Move on.
Can it all be tainted by someone like him; who keeps popping into my life disrupting me?
Only if you let him. Stop contact with him. Stop listening to his excuses. His behavior has shown you that he isnā€™t going to change. He told you who he was with his actions years ago-- itā€™s time to start believing him.

Walk away. Donā€™t look back. Donā€™t talk to him again.
 
Why do I have a small gut feeling that me praying for him and us is something I was called to do?
Itā€™s called being delusional. You want a purpose to all this madness. There isnā€™t one.
I find that Mother Mary is calling for me to pray for himā€¦
See above. This is you projecting your desires for him to change onto Mary.
A part of me feels that my devotion to him and this relationship will transform this man into what he was meant to beā€¦
Said no woman in a healthy relationship, ever.
 
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