Desperate. Should I leave him?

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You will need to contact a moderator to ask about that. Make sure you clear the history out on your computer.
Clear the history and wipe the cookies. If possible, deep-six the drive when you leave. As in, format it and throw it out. Keep evidence you need on a thumb drive on your person.

And in the future, use Google Chrome’s “Incognito tab.” I hate to say that I have plenty of history showing that incognito mode can hide a lot unless you really go digging with some sophisticated software. 😦 Kept my addiction hidden for years until I was careless one day. Best thing that happened to me for sure, but suffice to say that my wife had no idea whatsoever until she stumbled across it. So, basically, it works.
 
Mason doggy do you know how I can stop the email notifications when someone posts because he sometimes checks my emails on my phone?
In your user profile. Make the change there.

Also, change the password to your email because seriously, you will need to.

Better yet, get a totally new email address for the explicit purpose of getting help. Never tell him about it.
 
And… we’re done. Yes. Yes you should leave. And have him arrested. Struck a one-year old in the face hard enough to literally knock him to the floor? I have a one-year-old daughter right now and I’d never think to lift a finger towards her if she was crying.

I’ve spanked my older two kids… not hard enough to actually hurt. And not until they were old enough to understand.

What you are describing is abusive, violent and criminal behavior.

Sage advice indeed.

Oh right, because the problem is always you, right? You know why you think that? Because he’s an abuser and that’s what abusers do. They blame everyone else and eventually compel them to believe in their worldview. It’s absolutely insane and evil.

I’m sure it’s a scary thought. But you seem to have a decent support system out there. Your priest gave you good advice. You should follow it.

Marriage is hard work indeed. Sometimes there are fights that are worth having and disagreements that you have to hash out. But that necessitates that the marriage include two people who are sane. That’s not the case here. You have one side, you, who is trying to be a normal person. Then the other side, your husband, who is a violent child abuser and a wife beater. Plain and simple. He has struck a TODDLER and his own wife. That makes him a child abuser and a wife beater.

If anyone else told you this story about her marriage, would you say “oh keep trying honey” or would you say “get out before he kills you?”
Dear OP:
Read the above post ^^^^^^ OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
Then make plans to report this to the authorities, see the priest about leaving (he might know of a family who would take you and the children in) and begin writing down EVERYTHING you can remember.
I know from experience.
This will NOT change. That old line "YOU’RE the one that needs therapy is very telling.
It’s always going to be your fault in his eyes.
Leave now. For the children. Do not tolerate this behavior one more moment. God does not want this for you, and I believe you when you say you have tried to get him help, you have tried to reason with him, and you have tried to get him to return tot he faith.
Enough.
You are a child of God. NO more excuses from him. If his mother truly indulges him, he will never change. Sounds harsh, but he has been given carte blanche. All musicians are not like this. Most of us understand that while we may be gifted, we’ll never make a living at it. Maybe enough for a single person, but not for a family. That is just an excuse for not seeking employment for the family. Refusal to support his own children will look bad indeed to a judge and the tribunal.
Enough.
 
robwar said:

“From what you describe, it sounds like both of you married too young and have not given yourselves enough time to find stable jobs, finish school before getting married and having babies close together right away.”

The OP may be young, but if her husband was in the army 8 years, he can’t be that young. He’s just immature.

Also, come to think of it, if the OP is a teacher, she can’t be ridiculously young either–she’s got to be at least 25, maybe older.
 
In your user profile. Make the change there.

Also, change the password to your email because seriously, you will need to.

Better yet, get a totally new email address for the explicit purpose of getting help. Never tell him about it.
Sorry to bother you Bucket but I’ve gone to my user profile and disabled everything and set the thing to “no email notifications” but it still comes to my email! I’m doing this all from my phone. I never use the computer. Thanks for your support.
 
robwar said:

“From what you describe, it sounds like both of you married too young and have not given yourselves enough time to find stable jobs, finish school before getting married and having babies close together right away.”

The OP may be young, but if her husband was in the army 8 years, he can’t be that young. He’s just immature.

Also, come to think of it, if the OP is a teacher, she can’t be ridiculously young either–she’s got to be at least 25, maybe older.
Ha! We are both 33 actually. He did the army before a degree and wanted to get the degree when he left the army. I took 8 years to get my undergrad because I got major depression when I was 24 and had to defer and go part time. Wish I was 25!

So yes… Didn’t marry young. Just both very immature in different ways I guess. Another post earlier was right. I was immature in expecting a fantasy life rather than reality because I didn’t value myself enough.
 
I have been a lurker on these forums for several months, but I wasn’t ever going to become a member because I’m trying to cut back on social media.

However

I was compelled to make an account to post and tell you PLEASE get away from your husband. His hitting you was bad ENOUGH, but he is abusing your children, too! They will have psychological issues the likes you’ve never imagined if you continue letting him push the envelope with them. Forcing food down their throats? Please, imagine for a second how terrified they were, how humiliated they were, and how confused they were. Why is daddy doing this to us? We’re just tired :-(. If ever you think you’re not doing the right thing by leaving, hold that image in your head and screw your courage to the sticking point. I’m praying for you guys. You can do this, you can be free and rebuild your lives. Women have left their homes with the clothes on their backs and turned their lives into huge successes.
 
I have been a lurker on these forums for several months, but I wasn’t ever going to become a member because I’m trying to cut back on social media.

However

I was compelled to make an account to post and tell you PLEASE get away from your husband. His hitting you was bad ENOUGH, but he is abusing your children, too! They will have psychological issues the likes you’ve never imagined if you continue letting him push the envelope with them. Forcing food down their throats? Please, imagine for a second how terrified they were, how humiliated they were, and how confused they were. Why is daddy doing this to us? We’re just tired :-(. If ever you think you’re not doing the right thing by leaving, hold that image in your head and screw your courage to the sticking point. I’m praying for you guys. You can do this, you can be free and rebuild your lives. Women have left their homes with the clothes on their backs and turned their lives into huge successes.
Thank you! Thank you for joining just for me. That’s unbelievably convincing and I really appreciate it. Thank you again for your support. I will remember their faces when I waver.
 
Emsher said:

“Ha! We are both 33 actually.”

Wow–you have been describing a 33-year-old man.

Just for purposes of comparison, The Bucket has a family of similar size, has been married for some time, and is several years younger than your husband.
 
emsher:

I have reason to believe God put me here for a reason today.

Your story sounds almost identical to my story from 10 years ago when I married my spouse. I won’t go into details, but let it suffice to say that your story is almost word-for-word verbatim exactly the same as mine.

It’s really hard to say what my wife should have done back then. But what she did was stick by my side. I know for a fact that God played the biggest role in me recovering. If it weren’t for Jesus finding me in the midst of my horribleness, and giving me comfort and showing me the way out of my own messes, and showing me an unusual amount of mercy, it’s very likely that I would either be in prison or dead right now.

This may not be what you’re looking for, but there are some things I can tell you almost for certain:
  1. Your husband is absolutely not trying to change at all. He is definitely just getting you to not leave him, to not take his comfortable and familiar life style away. There may be a small amount of guilt over what he’s done, but it’s negligible. He’s way more interested in just keeping things the same as they are now. He wants to eat good food, watch entertaining shows and movies, play entertaining video games, and do whatever he wants, without a thought for anyone else. Even when he plays with his children, it’s only because he wants to do it to make himself happy.
  2. Your husband is extremely deceived by Satan, the world, and the flesh. He has very little reason to stop his porn/masturbation habits, because he’s basically a hedonist, trying to maximize his pleasure intake. There is no thought in his mind at any time, trying to do God’s will, or reach Heaven. It never crosses his mind.
  3. The violence will almost definitely continue, and probably get worse. I say this so confidently because he’s clearly not putting himself in his children’s and your shoes. He’s so self-absorbed that he can’t take a far enough step away from himself to realize that a grown man hitting an infant literally does nothing constructive to solve the problem at all, and only serves to satisfy his own anger. Again, I say this from pure experience, but even so, it doesn’t take more than a little common sense to see that he’s blinded by selfishness and fear of anything at all disrupting his comfortable lifestyle.
  4. You don’t have to stay or leave permanently, you can leave temporarily (“separate”) until he fully proves that he has changed. But that will be very tough to judge, because he will do everything in his power to try to convince you that he’s changed, without the thought “maybe I’m the problem” even crossing his mind. Instead he’ll be secretly blaming you and everyone else for as long as he allows himself to be deceived by demons about this. Honestly it could be months or even years before he finally realizes that it’s him who needs to change.
  5. You are an angel. (Obviously not literally.) I am absolutely amazed at your perseverance, patient, kindness, gentleness, love. You remind me so much of how my wife was when we were first together, and it breaks my heart to read how unjust your situation is, and furthers my own repentance. But I am amazed, very seriously amazed at how firm you are in your moral values, and how morally upright you are, and how clearly you see. But don’t give in to naivety. We are told to be as wise as serpents but as innocent as doves. So although you must do the right thing, be aware of what’s really going on in your husband’s evil-filled mind and heart.
The story of Monica and Augustine comes to mind, because she prayed for him earnestly, but it was over a decade later that he finally truly changed. By no means am I suggesting that you either stay or leave based on this story, just giving an example of a similar situation. If your husband does change, it will only be by the grace of God, and through constant prayer. And it may take a long time, or it may be quick.

Obviously I could be wrong about a lot of this. I’m making a lot of bold assertions here about someone I have never met and only heard briefly about. But as I said, your story is so absolutely familiar, that I fully believe with full confidence that what I’m saying are very close to, if not exactly, the case.

I send this message with prayers that God grants you discernment about your situation, patience with your husband, and an abundance of faith, hope, and love.

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One more more thing. Your psychiatrist is very wrong, your instincts were right. Abandon him immediately. He is very skewed by evil. St. Francis de Sales said in his book Introduction to the Devout Life, that when we seek spiritual guidance, we should entrust ourselves to a priest full of knowledge, prudence, and charity (love), and that if any of these are lacking, there is danger. Now you’re not even talking about a priest, or anyone who is affiliated with God, so how much greater the danger when any of these are lacking! (And they clearly are.)
 
Get a passcode set up on your phone so he can’t get into your phone and snoop around. You could also set up another e-mail account and and switch them under your account settings. That way any activity on CA won’t go to your phone because the email account won’t be associated with your phone. Use the new email for any business you don’t want him to see, especially anything to do with you leaving him. Make sure you use a strong password that he can’t figure out. Make sure to clear your history anytime you use that email so he won’t even know about it.
 
emsher:

Oh one more more thing. Your psychiatrist is very wrong, your instincts were right. Abandon him immediately. He is very skewed by evil. St. Francis de Sales said in his book Introduction to the Devout Life, that when we seek spiritual guidance, we should entrust ourselves to a priest full of knowledge, prudence, and charity (love), and that if any of these are lacking, there is danger. Now you’re not even talking about a priest, or anyone who is affiliated with God, so how much greater the danger when any of these are lacking! (And they clearly are.)
 
emsher:

I have reason to believe God put me here for a reason today.

Your story sounds almost identical to my story from 10 years ago when I married my spouse. I won’t go into details, but let it suffice to say that your story is almost word-for-word verbatim exactly the same as mine.

Oh wow, null… What can I say? I am blown away and in tears at your touching response. Thank you for your compassion. I believe too that God is at work in you because every single word you have said has resonated as though you have been here and seen it all unfold. Thank you with all my heart. Thank you!!! I know you are spot on. Wow.

I fear I’ve not been as morally upright as I ought. I ought to have been praying for him earnestly every day but I think I’ve been lazy too. I do pray for him earnestly at certain times and I pray for guidance. A lot lately. But I should pray much more for his soul. After all, I love him and want him to get to Heaven. But maybe separating is the most charitable thing for him as staying keeps enabling him. I was trying to find a middle ground of being more firm, strong and outspoken but feel inhibited because so many of these situations come up in front of the kids and I end up trying to diffuse for their sake rather than engage.

Can I ask you how things turned out for your marriage? How did you come to these realisations within yourself. You say your wife stuck by you. I badly want there to be a way we can one day be together as a healthy, loving, selfless couple- a true marriage. But I accept that that may never be possible too. Did you need to come to a point where you felt you might lose it all unless you examined yourself? I will give it up to God’s hands and not be afraid.

Thank you again for your support. It means the world to me. I’m overwhelmed with all the support I’ve received in only a couple if hours. THANK YOU EVERYONE!!
 
Ha! We are both 33 actually. He did the army before a degree and wanted to get the degree when he left the army. I took 8 years to get my undergrad because I got major depression when I was 24 and had to defer and go part time. Wish I was 25!

So yes… Didn’t marry young. Just both very immature in different ways I guess. Another post earlier was right. I was immature in expecting a fantasy life rather than reality because I didn’t value myself enough.
are there abuse shelters that you can call and go to?
 
Ha! We are both 33 actually. He did the army before a degree and wanted to get the degree when he left the army. I took 8 years to get my undergrad because I got major depression when I was 24 and had to defer and go part time. Wish I was 25!

So yes… Didn’t marry young. Just both very immature in different ways I guess. Another post earlier was right. I was immature in expecting a fantasy life rather than reality because I didn’t value myself enough.
And that other poster hopes you weren’t offended by his comment. Sending encouragement from the other side of the globe, dear emsher.
 
And that other poster hopes you weren’t offended by his comment. Sending encouragement from the other side of the globe, dear emsher.
Not at all, Robertanthony! You were compassionate in understanding how when one devalues oneself they truly can make poor choices. I reread your line about becoming stronger inside and took it in. But my DH abbreviations were simply for brevity! Certainly not the most appropriate acronym under the circumstances!!!
 
are there abuse shelters that you can call and go to?
Yes there are robwar. Thank you. I have a list. Also Father offered some help through families in the community if necessary temporarily.
 
Get a passcode set up on your phone so he can’t get into your phone and snoop around. You could also set up another e-mail account and and switch them under your account settings. That way any activity on CA won’t go to your phone because the email account won’t be associated with your phone. Use the new email for any business you don’t want him to see, especially anything to do with you leaving him. Make sure you use a strong password that he can’t figure out. Make sure to clear your history anytime you use that email so he won’t even know about it.
Thank you kindly. Great idea about the pass code. Never thought of that.
 
He sounds like a user. He needs to get a full time job and grow up. He can go to school part-time and earn a living. It may be time for a temporary separation so he can figure out what kind of work he needs to do to support his family. He also needs to decide if he is married to mama or you. If he can’t cut the apron strings, then maybe you should cut them for him.

Sorry, folks but I am tired of men who can’t seem to find the guts to get a job, any job, to support the family and wife. This guy does not impress me and if I was the “wife” he would get some “darn straight” choices to make: 1. Mama is not in charge of our marriage 2. Get a job and take one class at a time if you want a degree 3. Pay off the bills 4. Don’t ever mistreat one of the kids again and use being tired as an excuse…or we are done.

I get all the stuff about not divorcing and the Church’s teachings, however abuse, verbal or physical, failure to get serious about supporting a family…these are two problems that kill a marriage and I would not put up with it.
 
Yes there are robwar. Thank you. I have a list. Also Father offered some help through families in the community if necessary temporarily.
I think you should go to one with your babies.
 
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