Detroit Catholic parish to close, converted to mosque

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Friday, October 27, 2006

Detroit church to be reborn as a mosque
Kim Kozlowski / The Detroit News

DETROIT – As a child, Mary Ann Rice considered Our Lady Help of Christians Church a second home.

A daughter of Polish immigrants, she attended its elementary school and worshipped there in Masses said in her native tongue.

After 83 years, the church will celebrate its final Mass on Sunday and become the first church in the Archdiocese of Detroit sold to a mosque. It will cater to a new crop of immigrants – from Bangladesh, primarily.

“It’s going to hurt,” said Rice, 68. “There are a lot of memories there. But you’ve got to go with the times.”

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Something has to be done about this. The loss of Catholics. The growth of the Muslims.
 
Love and preach more.
When is the last time we told a co-worker or a stranger on a bus the Good News?
There a billion of us right? Maybe one convert each!🙂
 
Well I hope the church is properly deconsecrated by Cardinal Maida. This probably wouldn’t of happened if Detroit’s Catholics had more babies, or just attended Mass regularly.

Though its a shame it will be used for worship by a non-Christian faith. And I have to say its kind of a kick to the stomach, a defeat of sorts for the gospel…😦
 
There ought to be something in Canon Law to prevent Catholic Churches from being sold off to false religions. At the very least, demo the building before selling the property…
 
The story says five buildings are being sold and will be converted to a combination community and worship center. So it is possible that the space once used for Catholic worship will not actually be used for Muslim worship.

Regardless, I think any Catholic iconography that can be removed would be removed by the mosque, if not by the archdiocese. Muslims would feel very uncomfortable worshipping among images of Jesus and the saints on stained-glass windows.
 
Oh my gosh! This is the first I have heard of this! The MSM must be covering this up.

Very sad - the first of many Christian churches I fear converting to Islam as we convert to the religion of Secular Liberalism.
 
But in a trend familiar to immigrants in scores of other neighborhoods across the country, the Poles eventually started moving to the suburbs, especially to Sterling Heights and Warren.
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Urban Catholic parishes suffered as onetime parishioners built up faith communities closer to their new homes. A priest shortage has prompted Catholic Archdioceses locally and around the nation to have one priest serve several churches, merge congregations or close churches. Scores of churches in the Archdiocese of Detroit already have experienced this change.
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Meanwhile, the neighborhood has evolved from a predominantly Polish one to a neighborhood with many immigrants hailing from Bangladesh, a mostly Muslim nation near India, and India.
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I don’t think this is anything unusual. Demographics of cities change with time. The South Side of Chicago has several former synagogues which are are now Christian churches and one is even the national headquarters for Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.
 
Demograghics shifting from Christianity to Islam is a concern to me. Islam is purposely populating itself and Christians and The West are aborting and depopulating at an alarming rate. The last thing we need is Louis Farrakann, or radical Islam getting a strong hold inside the US. Hamas is already in 40 U.S. states.
 
Perhaps, just perhaps…it will result in conversions - much like the old Carmelite seminary which became a protestant seminary and gave us Hahn, Grodi, etc etc etc… Gordon Cromwell Theological Seminary.

.we can always have that hope.

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I would much rather have them demolish the Church building with me inside. For shame.
 
This has happened in many places. Can someone please tell me what is done to make the land and buildings no longer Catholic?

IMHO I would much rather see the church building torn down prior to the sale. Here in Pittsburgh, PA we have former church buildings turned into breweries,restraints, art galleries and many other uses.

Former school buildings used to teach our young have been turned into places to teach other religions children. They keep the cost down and their teachers teach as part of their stewardship. Our children have been priced out of religious based education.

So no this decision to turn a church into a mosque does not surprise me.
 
meno said:
The story says five buildings are being sold and will be converted to a combination community and worship center. So it is possible that the space once used for Catholic worship will not actually be used for Muslim worship.

Regardless, I think any Catholic iconography that can be removed would be removed by the mosque, if not by the archdiocese. Muslims would feel very uncomfortable worshiping among images of Jesus and the saints on stained-glass windows.
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I admit ignorance as to what the Muslims feel about worshiping with images of other religions surrounding them. Maybe someone can explain it.

All I ever heard was that images were covered if they could not be removed, and since they had no respect for them those that could be destroyed were destroyed. I believe they do not allow images depicting Mohammad at all.
 
A few years back we lost the beautiful DunScotus Retreat Center at 9 and Southfield… beautiful grounds, beautiful history… and now home to the Baptists I believe… All the Catholic contents were removed or sold off, and the last Franciscan had to suffer through its dimise.

It had little or no support from Catholics, perhaps much like the church in Hamtramck.

The good Cardinal though saw fit to lend tens of millions to the JPII Memorial in DC… not a bad thing but look at what it costs us here.

Only time will tell us what level of apathy we are sinking into …IMHO
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Practicing catholics are rapidly shrinking in this country. They say the chuch still growing but that is a statistical fallacy IMO. Many Hispanic immigrants and well as Philipinos are embracing Islam and fundamentalist Protestinism in huge numbers.

Vert few really believe anymore - if they did this would not be happening.
 
rien said:
Practicing catholics are rapidly shrinking in this country. They say the chuch still growing but that is a statistical fallacy IMO. Many Hispanic immigrants and well as Philipinos are embracing Islam and fundamentalist Protestinism in huge numbers.

Vert few really believe anymore - if they did this would not be happening.
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Boy if that were true it would have saved me a lot of money! I just competed serving on the building committe for a brand new Church in Houston Texas -the SECOND one I have helped build in the last 20 years. now i spend a lot of time in Colorado and you guessed it Im on another building committe as we despeartely need to exapnd the Cjhurch we are in. Meanwhile I just open another office in a small town nearby and guess what? They are in a temporary building and in the process of planning for a new sanctuary. For now I will sit in the back and hope no one asks me to join still another building comittee.

Of course this is all ancedotal evdicence but it does show that ones opinion of the growth of the Cjurch may very well be formed by where on lives…
 
rien said:
Practicing catholics are rapidly shrinking in this country. They say the chuch still growing but that is a statistical fallacy IMO. Many Hispanic immigrants and well as Philipinos are embracing Islam and fundamentalist Protestinism in huge numbers.

Vert few really believe anymore - if they did this would not be happening.
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Are you sure about the first part of that sentence? Are there a lot of Hispanic immigrants embracing Islam? As far as Filipinos, the southern islands in the Philippines is Muslim, so you might just be seeing immigrants from that part of the Philippines.
 
rien said:
Practicing catholics are rapidly shrinking in this country. They say the chuch still growing but that is a statistical fallacy IMO. Many Hispanic immigrants and well as Philipinos are embracing Islam and fundamentalist Protestinism in huge numbers.

Vert few really believe anymore - if they did this would not be happening.
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I think you have hit the nail on the head. On paper there are more Catholics than ever. But our priest told us that weekly Mass attendance is about 40% at best here in Minnesota. (I read its about 15% in Europe.) Secularization has crept in with a vengeance. It seems to me that for many, it is fun to be Catholic. The services are beautiful and the Church is there when needed, but many simply don’t take the Church that seriously in ordering their lives.
 
Just to let everyone know, this is the last thread I have decided to post in the CA forums for the forseable future. I may respond in threads of others, though even that remains to be seen. Due to forces beyond my control, and that I am probably not at liberty to discuss publically.

Anyway, back to topic…
 
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