Devastating Photos Of India's Illegal Coal Mines

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If the choice is no coal mining and starvation vs mining and feeding your kids choices becomes easy
 
It has been only in the last hundred to hundred fifty years that coal mining in the US were just as bad, if not worse. In the US, it was not uncommon for the mine owners to have their own ‘police force’ (army, enforcers) to keep the unions (and the Molly Macergers [sp?] ) out. 🤷
 
If the choice is no coal mining and starvation vs mining and feeding your kids choices becomes easy
I totally agree.
And besides better earn your bread with your own sweat, than become a slave of some food stamp program, and with time totally loose your dignity…
Respect for these women…

By the way, as a child my grandmother used to carry water uphilll to her mud hut, similar to what these women are doing 3 times a day…she never felt sorry about herself…She had her 10 kids, time passed, they all prospered and have now a more comfortable life. Wonder what would have become of her and her family if back then there were all the government handouts we see today…

I agree the the picture looks sad, but physical work with little pay is not equal slavery…What would these women be doing, if it was not for this opportunity to earn some money? Begging?
I am (and I am sure they are also) actually very grateful that someone is giving them that job.
 
Today we have the environmentalists including Obama shutting down good paying union jobs in the mines.
 
it is an injustice and a sin against the dignity of a person.
 
Welcome to the third-world. If you think that this is devastating, walk into an Indian hospital. You actually have to live here to understand this madness.
 
If the choice is no coal mining and starvation vs mining and feeding your kids choices becomes easy
Interesting spin to put on slavery. 😦

Most prostitutes receive a little pay you know, though their pimps receive the lions share of their “work”.
 
Interesting spin to put on slavery. 😦

Most prostitutes receive a little pay you know, though their pimps receive the lions share of their “work”.
Are you willing to outsource so that we can get modern jobs and develop as a country, or is it a prime concern that corporations will “exploit” us?
 
Well, one of the reasons people hate sweatshops and outsourcing is because locals are
“exploited”. The truth is locals usually crave these jobs and they help develop the country. In the west where most countries are already developed they have enough riches to call this “exploitation”. But this “exploitation” is usually the only practical way to help developing nations. India did not grow because of Nehruism but because of freer trade.
 
Well, one of the reasons people hate sweatshops and outsourcing is because locals are
“exploited”. The truth is locals usually crave these jobs and they help develop the country. In the west where most countries are already developed they have enough riches to call this “exploitation”. But this “exploitation” is usually the only practical way to help developing nations. India did not grow because of Nehruism but because of freer trade.
I don’t agree that the means justify the ends.

Otherwise those in the US could say that chattel slavery “wasn’t so bad” because it aided in the industrialization of the US- which it definitely did.

As Catholics we cannot take this stand. Gains must be made with the ethical treatment of man as the focus- not profits.
 
In the west people are rich, so what they call “exploitation” is what other people call decent paying jobs. If they were not rich they would not call it “exploitation”. It is a totally subjective concept. You actually have to live outside the west to understand this concept.

If you think that this is indecent, come visit an Indian city and see how most people live.
 
In the west people are rich, so what they call “exploitation” is what other people call decent paying jobs. If they were not rich they would not call it “exploitation”. It is a totally subjective concept. You actually have to live outside the west to understand this concept.

If you think that this is indecent, come visit an Indian city and see how most people live.
Thank you… I greatly appreciate hearing a new viewpoint. It’s rare for me to get outside the “talking points” of the right or left.
May God be with the Indian people.
 
I think that it is very sad that women, men, and children in India must obtain this type of work in order to make a living. I wish that there were better jobs in India that anyone could get, regardless of education. However, it seems that this is one of those types of jobs, which while dangerous, does provide an income to families who desperately need it. Perhaps there is a way that they could do this same job but make it safer?
 
I think that it is very sad that women, men, and children in India must obtain this type of work in order to make a living. I wish that there were better jobs in India that anyone could get, regardless of education. However, it seems that this is one of those types of jobs, which while dangerous, does provide an income to families who desperately need it. Perhaps there is a way that they could do this same job but make it safer?
Perhaps if India allowed a little free market capitalism, this situation wouldn’t exist:In energy-hungry India, demand for coal has increased while production has remained fairly steady, causing coal prices to surge in recent years.

The lack of reform and rising demand have spawned a seedy underbelly of “coal mafia”, and a class of workers that illegally scavenge the mines for coal.

"The nationalization of India’s coal industry made it legal for just the central or state government to authorize coal mining.

That basically means coal can only be mined by government-owned companies or private companies that have been granted a lease by the government.

But there are many poor Indian’s that haven’t benefited from riches in the mining sector and that **choose **to dig the open-pit mines illegally.
These people are not **forced **to work in the open pit mines. They **choose **to do so. Why? Because there are insufficient opportunities available in the legal, nationalized, coal mines – so they are using entrepreneurship by wildcatting. This is likely more dangerous than it would need to be if they were operating in a legal mine, but opportunity is not available for them in a legal mine.

And then you have the caption on picture #7: *But people from all over the country seek out such work that reportedly pays $150 per week. **This is double the national average *of about $75 per week.

$150 per week X 52 weeks = $7,800 per year.

This is compared to

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(source: CIA World Fact Book)

Compare this to #11: USA ($49k GDP per capita), #20 Canada ($41.1k GDP per capita), #23 Ireland ($40.1k per capita), #33 UK ($36.6k per capita), and #160 Philippines ($4.1k per capita). It’s no wonder why $7,800 sounds like a pittance to us in the US, Canada, Ireland, and the UK. How it sounds to us doesn’t really matter, though. How would $7,800 sound to the average Indian?

Maybe rather than bemoaning the fact that people have to take this type of work, perhaps we should focus on what can be done to get the Indian government to open up the industry to commercial competition…which would surely allow these people to work with better tools and, perhaps, in some safer conditions (even if the evil corporate leaders didn’t care about the employees, they’d want to protect the equipment)
 
In the west people are rich, so what they call “exploitation” is what other people call decent paying jobs. If they were not rich they would not call it “exploitation”. It is a totally subjective concept. You actually have to live outside the west to understand this concept.

If you think that this is indecent, come visit an Indian city and see how most people live.
I appreciate what you’re saying completely. I lived in Turkey for 3 years. On a salary that would be slightly above poverty in the US, I lived like a relative king over there.
 
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