H
nice observation,but still Pope John Paul II ,forgave him,because,he was in grace a saint! ,how many of us can do it we see people and not satan.inspite of knowing it you feel you forgave but not yet, Jesus said it from the cross in Luke 23:34 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.” … , from your post it is clear you have not forgiven completely from your heart, you still have anger,we humans cannot forgive by ourselves as it is said to ‘err is human to forgive is Divine’ unless we pray for the grace,we cannot,so do, earnestly pray for it.I see what you are saying but one thing that comes to my mind is when Pope John Paul II forgave his shooter. He said that he didn’t ultimately blame the man but rather Satan for leading the man to sin. So, I think everything in our life is a battle between good and evil. Does that make sense?
On a spiritual level, there are times when our spirit clash’s with another persons spirit. Especially when the other human spirit recognizes our own spirit as belonging to God and revolts outwardly causing a harsh reaction towards us. Ie verbal abuse etc.I’m just going to spell it out because I don’t think I have been clear enough. My parents were abusive. I didn’t deserve their abuse.
I have been exceedingly forgiving and yet they still ice me out. I have pain, yes. But, I do not have anger because I have hope in Christ.
I have hope that they will one day see how much their abuse injured me physically, emotionally and spiritually.
And, I have hope because Christ is more powerful than the lies Satan sows in people’s hearts.
I have forgiven them completely, but visiting them is not what God wills for my life right now since that would open my husband and myself up to more of their abuse
Theoretically: spirit meaning the soul of man.what do you mean by spirit? It’s my first time to hear of spirit of one clashing with the spirit of another.
No. When the other human spirit recognizes our own spirit as belonging to God and revolts outwardly causing a harsh reaction towards us. Ie verbal abuse etc. Often our own spirit recognizes where the harsh reaction is coming from.Does this mean that like in the case of someone who is in a state of grace, the person who isn’t is mad, and wants the former to also be in a state of mortal sin?
For more traditional readings, St Ignatius Loyola speaks a lot about discernment and this includes the discernment of spirits. St Francis de Sales’ book “Introduction to the Spiritual Life” speaks about building deeper devotion to God as well as resisting the Enemy. I liked it a lot.. I’m particularly interested in learning more about the “behind the scenes”, so to speak, of the spiritual life.