How many of those people entered marriage (or are even married at all) with the contraceptive mentality that kids are optional and their contraception failed?
Yeah I agree…it just sucks that topics like this can get sooo heated. And both sides can say some stuff that the other side finds not so nice. I have certainly read some stuff here from the other side on this thread that got me fuming a little.
Carjack, with this and your flippant, “the miscarriages are unfortunate” comments, I officially abstain from any threads you may start. I cannot maintain my own Christian charity toward you any longer. I and many others on this board have tried to help and guide you in compassionate ways. You are not open to it and in fact insult us at every turn.Wow. do they have any other interest besides breeding?
I went into marriage with the idea that kids are optional. But that is what I was taught my whole life. That and to wait until I was 30 to have kids…
cracked me up when my mom used to ask me you aren;t pregnant yet are you!? Of Course they don’t want kids every single time they have sex. Thats been gone over many times know.I went into marriage with the idea that kids are optional. But that is what I was taught my whole life. That and to wait until I was 30 to have kids…
Really though even if a person wants kids that doesn;t mean that every single time they have sex they are fine with a pregnancy, see what I mean?
Ok I think I sorta kinda understand what you are saying now.
While I agree she has been pretty rude and has said some stuff and used phrases she should have not. I can kinda understand why she might have lashed out at people. Or I can at least say I think the side arguing against her is totally innocent either. I mean personally I find the suggestion that if one isn;t happy about having kids or doesn;t want kids despite what hardships it may cause them, that they need professional help rather insulting. That if you do not want kids at that moment or at all that something is wrong with your thinking. And while they might have not been meant to be rude…please understand that someone that feels like her and me and many other people like us read those statements and think how dare they!? That being said I do agree alot of the comments she has made were completely unnecessecary. As for the childfree forum thing you mentioned…please try to understand that it depends on where you go…but not all childfree make nasty comments about parents or anything like that. A good childfree board is the one on Christian forums.Carjack, with this and your flippant, “the miscarriages are unfortunate” comments, I officially abstain from any threads you may start. I cannot maintain my own Christian charity toward you any longer. I and many others on this board have tried to help and guide you in compassionate ways. You are not open to it and in fact insult us at every turn.
I have five children, and every single one of them is loved and a gift from God. If it weren’t for finances and physical problems on my part, I would have more. I love these little beings that I have the privelege to give life to, to mold and guide and enjoy, to love and comfort, and whom I get to watch grow into the wonderful people they were meant to be. According to you, I have no other interest besides breeding. Never mind that I have a part time job, a degree in political science, a serious book addiction, and a love for passionate debate.
I agree with the suggestion of professional help to deal with your disordered thinking, and while you are at it, you might want to discuss your tendency toward hostility and attacking others in order to deal with your own inadequacies.
In any case, you do not have to worry about any further comment from me. I simply cannot read any more of the disgusting things you post.
P.S. Breeders is an insulting term used by the childfree movement. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable on one of their boards!
Lets try this, I’m going to quote a bit of Christopher West’s book “Good News about Sex and Marriage” (pages 126 & 127), see if it clarify it at all.
Thats just small snippet, I don’t have time to type the whole thing
Ok I am pretty sure I understand now.Lets try this, I’m going to quote a bit of Christopher West’s book “Good News about Sex and Marriage” (pages 126 & 127), see if it clarify it at all.
Thats just small snippet, I don’t have time to type the whole thing
:clapping: Now that you told me off don’t forget to let the door hit you, you know whereCarjack, with this and your flippant, “the miscarriages are unfortunate” comments, I officially abstain from any threads you may start. I cannot maintain my own Christian charity toward you any longer.That is not my issue, but yours I and many others on this board have tried to help and guide you in compassionate ways. You are not open to it and in fact insult us at every turn.Not true, but feel free to believe what you like
I have five children, and every single one of them is loved and a gift from God. If it weren’t for finances and physical problems on my part, I would have more. I love these little beings that I have the privelege to give life to, to mold and guide and enjoy, to love and comfort, and whom I get to watch grow into the wonderful people they were meant to be. According to you, I have no other interest besides breeding. Never mind that I have a part time job, a degree in political science, a serious book addiction, and a love for passionate debate.Good for you
I agree with the suggestion of professional help to deal with your disordered thinking,that is your opinion. and while you are at it, you might want to discuss your tendency toward hostility and attacking others in order to deal with your own inadequacies.Ok. Now you want to diagnose my behavior
In any case, you do not have to worry about any further comment from me.:extrahappy: that is great. since you like to insult me as well. Can’t say that this post you sent me was constructive. Try to work harder on your debating. I simply cannot read any more of the disgusting things you post.That is your perogative.
P.S. Breeders is an insulting term used by the childfree movement. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable on one of their boards!
Thank you
And there wouldn’t be so much abuse in this world either. But most abuse is because parents themselves were abused, not because they hate their kids, it’s more that they never learned how to love others, and that carries over to their kids. I would absolutely say that if someone is cold, meanspirited, and has issues from their past with abuse, he/she would be best suited to getting counseling before having children. I agree that a child being born into a family that abuses him or her, or is made to feel unworthy or a burden, is an awful situation.
I understood by what you meant
and you made a great point. Abuse is a word that is highly overused in this society.that would be a different thread. Maybe you can start one about things that one is thankful for
I’m glad you thought so–just trying to help you sort it all out. I was not happy when I was pregnant with our son, I will admit that. We were married like around 10 months, and we got pregnant, but about 2 months into the pregnancy, I couldn’t imagine life without my son growing inside of me. I would say that for some women, as one of the posters mentioned, being pregnant is a terrible time for them, and they don’t know how to love, and thus are poor parents to their kids. But, for many (I think this might be you), something takes hold of your heart (Holy Spirit?) and transforms the way you think about life. About your own life. About how your body was ‘created’ for this purpose. Our lives have many purposes, and we can play many roles, but a woman’s body was designed no doubt with the potential for carrying life. Now, for women who cannot have children of their own, the pain is truly horrendous. I have a friend who just lost a baby, and while I can’t relate, I can only imagine the pain. I think that through prayer, you will see a different picture than you do today, and through time. Being a parent is challenging at times. But, it’s never a burden. I have never looked at my kids and thought…‘I want to send them back.’ lol It’s a love that really is very moving, and I think teaches us how to be more like Christ.I understood by what you meant
)that you and your husband will have a change of heart.It is related because our POV can cange from one of seeing God’s way as mean and inconvenient.that would be a different thread. Maybe you can start one about things that one is thankful for
I just listened to modern manger scene and it sure made me think. Thank you.