Did Jesus commit a sin?

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0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
Yes they do.
Jonah ran away from God in the opposite direction before he relented.
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Prophets do not commit sin. But they could make mistakes which is called “Zalla” in Islamic terminology. That is because they are mankind. Only God is just perfect. Jonah had depart without permission of God but there were no a ban to go!
 
Of course you can ask questions! Please do! There are very knowledgeable people in the forum and some may be able to help you in your search for information. I apologise if my answer led you to doubt this, it was not my intent.

I do reiterate my first suggestion though, if you can talk to an actual priest, they are a fountain of information. 🙂
 
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lilypadrees said:
“I AM.”

“I and the Father are One.”
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I and Father make two or two gods but that is not true. Why do we not read the whole case?

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

John 10

You see Jesus did not claim to share divinity but declared that He was given great authority and revelation by God(Father). And Jesus performed many good things and miracles. So there is no need to see God to believe in Jesus.
 
No, God the Father and God the Son (Jesus) are not two separate gods. One God, three Persons. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit (who proceeds from the Father and the Son).
 
myLordandGod said:
‘Jesus called the Canaanite woman a dog.’
He said in reply, “It is not right to take the food of the children and throw it to the dogs.” (Mtt 15:26)
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Yet the verse does not finish with “and because you are a dog…”

Jesus used a metaphor.
 
mhmtas63 said:
Prophets do not commit sin. But they could make mistakes which is called “Zalla” in Islamic terminology.
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I think we may have a language barrier issue.
This is also a Catholic website, so you’re not going to get much agreement with you.

But this is the the non-Catholic religions sub forum, and anyhow, you are welcome here, 🙂❤️

You stated your case, I stated mine, and now I’m done.

Peace!
 
Yeah, I got the sense that he and I are speaking a “different language”.
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Torah is interpretation by interpretation and there are many baseles additions in it. Qur’an tell the exact case:
  1. And We strengthened his kingdom and gave him wisdom and discernment in speech.
  2. And has there come to you the news of the adversaries, when they climbed over the wall of [his] prayer chamber
  3. When they entered upon David and he was alarmed by them? They said, "Fear not. [We are] two adversaries, one of whom has wronged the other, so judge between us with truth and do not exceed [it] and guide us to the sound path.
  4. Indeed this, my brother, has ninety-nine ewes, and I have one ewe; so he said, ‘Entrust her to me,’ and he overpowered me in speech.
  5. [David] said, “He has certainly wronged you in demanding your ewe [in addition] to his ewes. And indeed, many associates oppress one another, except for those who believe and do righteous deeds - and few are they.” And David became certain that We had tried him, and he asked forgiveness of his Lord and fell down bowing [in prostration] and turned in repentance [to Allah ]. Sad(38)
Prophet David thought He was tried by God to judge by justice. He thought He could make mistake so God aware to judge by justice and God support David.

Ofcourse Jews who had killed many prophets could say very bad things about prophets.
 
None practicing Jew? 🤣

(Sorry, this was not a serious answer, I just couldn’t help it. 😊)

I will give my opinion here about sinning, and no, I do not have any proof that I am right, this is just my opinion. I think a sin is defined by God, in the sense that He says what are sins and what are not. Each religion has just put out a “guide” for their subjects to follow. And this is where we may differ in interpretation. I do not know what happened, but I guess one took down different “notes” from another?

So for your example, the Jews believe that it is sinning to do activities on Sabbath, and Christians don’t. Who is right in the end? Only God knows, literally. We humans can only try and do the right thing, and if our respective religions provide a guide, it is just normal that we try and follow that guide.

I am Christian and so follow what Jesus said. He didn’t think doing activities on a Sabbath was sinning, so who am I to contradict Him? He is my maximum authority! I am sure the other religions have a similar source to base their interpretation on.

The only real problem I see here is that all of us think we are right. Sigh…we may all just be half wrong.
 
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Aulef said:
First and most common way to misinterpret Sacred Scriptures: take a verse out of context.
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Reading out of context is not the most common way to misinterpret Scriptures. Maybe it’s the 2nd or 3rd most common, but not the most common.
 
Kind of comes down to how YOU might choose to define/understand the nature and indeed within that nature what is the overriding part. IF Jesus, as I believe is both Divine/God AND man, and those two natures are not separate in any way, then the Divine trumps the human in terms of authority. Yes, Jesus is a Jew, BUT He is a Divine as well as a human Jew. was He disobeying His own rules, or was He just demonstrating that in His Divinity He is not subject to the rules of/for man. When God takes lives, does He commit murder, is He being harsh, or unfair? Some folks seem to think so - BUT as God He is entitled to take back what He gives, when so moved to do so - it is ‘we’ who seem to so often judge God as if He were on par with humanity, and was bound by human limitations and constraints. If God could do wrong, then He could also do evil, since ‘wrong’ is the foot in the door to evil. If God can do evil, then with the exception of His creative powers, He would be morally on par with Satan - BUT surely that cannot be the case, since there appears to be goodness and love in the world, as well as badness and hate. If God/Jesus, could also do wrong/evil, then goodness and love would not exist, since it is in the nature of badness and hatred to see them eradicated. God has permitted in their time, some of His creation to have free-will, including, before Lucifer challenged God by saying he would not serve, the Angels. In Heaven, the abode of God, there is no evil/wrong/sin, they has no place there - likewise, Jesus in His intimate Divinity, as well as humanity, cannot do wrong, since in His Divinity, as well as his perfected humanity, there is no place for wrong or evil. Judge God’s ways with extreme caution, being ever mindful of our ‘inclination’ to judge Him from a human and not a Divine, or even a spiritual perspective - to use the ‘emotional’, rather than the intellectual.
 
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kgmlg - With reference to the last sentence of your post, there are in reality no half truths or half wrongs - assertions are either right or wrong - although we may mix them up in the same sentence they are separate from each other in their essence - true we might mistake as a truth that which is really untrue, and vice versa, but in their essence and nature lies and truths can never be ‘half mixed’, or indeed mixed in any ratio. God is TRUTH, and Satan is the Father of LIES/UNTRUTH, and thus it is, and shall ever be so.
 
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Yes correct, but I was referring to interpretation.

Ex. I think all three major religions accept that adultery is a sin. (Please correct me if I am wrong). But some also consider someone who has been raped as also having committed adultery. (Again I may be wrong, just things I read in the news). While Catholics do not consider a rape victim as someone who has committed adultery. She was forced and therefore has committed no sin. While I read somewhere that some religions still consider the rape victim as an adulteres as she had sexual relations with another man, and being forced is not taken into account. A matter of interpretation……
 
kgmig - Yes, interpretation is interpretation - as such it can be right OR wrong - it cannot be a bit of both. God KNOWS, He has no need to ‘interpret’ - as humans we should SEEK TO KNOW, by HOPEFULLY praying for the DIVINE GIFT OF DISCERNMENT, which is the pathway to KNOWLEDGE/TRUTH.
 
Given that sin is an offense against God, how on Earth could Jesus offend himself?
 
Oh sorry! I misunderstood what you were trying to say! No what I meant was by us being half wrong is that we may be wrong on some things and right in others.
 
None Catholic section my friend. But yes, I get you. 😉

Although I read in one of the comments that for other religions Jesus was a prophet. Also that prophets can’t sin. So I guess same difference for the OP. The answer is the same. 🙂
 
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