Did Jesus commit a sin?

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Forgiving and Merciful. There are also paralel verses in Torah.

Then let’s start by very initially. Pagans tortured prophet Muhmmad and Muslims in Mecca. Muslims were weak and less but day after day numbers of Muslims increased. So Pagans started to harm Muslims even they tried to kill prophet Muhammad. Prophet sent some weak Muslims to Ethiopia. Yet Pagans followed Muslims to kill in desert but they could not achieve. Pagans wanted Muslims from Etophian king. When Muslims explaiened about their new religion and faith so the king said “there is just a hiarline between Muslims and Christians”. The king supported and secured Muslims.

But Muslims in Mecca were boycotted by Pagans. So God allowed Muslims to migrate(The Hegira). Muslims migrated to Medina and established a state. But Pagans were very certain to destroy Muslims in any where. Pagans allied with some tribes and make plans to attack Muslims and they did. Muslims defended themselves. Later God allowed Muslims to fight. So Muslims make war with Pagans and allies of them.

If Pagans did not torture Muslims so Islam would spread much more quickly. As opposite your claim Islam did not spread by sword but the swords of Pagans did make it difficult to spread.

 

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Sin comes from the heart, not from words. It’s how you use your words that make them sinful.

Yes, sin “enters” into the heart and the mind. However, which first? The mind first or the heart? Let’s bring up the Garden of Eden - 6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it."

What I was trying to say in the last post, is that there is a constant struggle within us, on which will dominate. Like Jacob ( Ya’akov in Hebrew ) Jacob wrestling with the angel or struggles with the angel and wins, " 28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

L’vav’cha translates literally as “your hearts.” The plural wording reminds us that we were each created with two distinct inclinations - one of flesh and the other, that motivate us in our service of God.

Reference:

Weekly Parsha: One Verse, Five Voices

You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. (Deuteronomy 6:5)

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Sin enters the heart first. Then it’s up to the intellect and will to subordinate the heart.

 

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I believe this area of topic could possible answer the question on whether or not Jesus was a sinner:

What was the meaning and purpose of Jesus’ temptations?

It is because He is human, and made like us in every way, that He could do three vital things: 1) destroy the devil’s power and free those who were held in slavery by their fear of death (Hebrews 2:15); 2) become a merciful and faithful High Priest in service to God and atone for our sins (Hebrews 2:17); and 3) be the One who is able to sympathize with us in all our weaknesses and infirmities (Hebrews 4:15). Our Lord’s human nature enables Him to sympathize with our own weaknesses, because He was subjected to weakness, too. More importantly, we have a High Priest who is able to intercede on our behalf and provide the grace of forgiveness.

 

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The Apostle Paul says, “But the Christ is the power and the wisdom of God as he’s hanging helpless on the cross, loving and forgiving his enemies. He’s showing forth the power and the wisdom of God.” Paul concludes, “For God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom. God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.”

 

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Some Muslims accuse Jesus of committing a sin. ‘Jesus called the Canaanite woman a dog.’
He said in reply, “It is not right to take the food of the children and throw it to the dogs.” (Mtt 15:26)
How do we answer this?

That Jesus cured the woman’s daughter! Jews in Jesus’ day sometimes referred to Gentiles as “dogs.” In Greek, this word is kuon , meaning “wild cur” (Matthew 7:6; Luke 16:21; Philippians 3:2). Non-Jews were considered so unspiritual that even being in their presence could make a person ceremonially unclean (John 18:28). Much of Jesus’ ministry, however, involved turning expectations and prejudices on their heads (Matthew 11:19; John 4:9–10). According to Matthew’s narrative, Jesus left Israel and went into Tyre and Sidon, which was Gentile territory (Matthew 15:21). When the Canaanite woman approached and repeatedly asked for healing, the disciples were annoyed and asked Jesus to send her away (Matthew 15:23).

At this point, Jesus explained His current ministry in a way that both the woman and the watching disciples could understand. At that time, His duty was to the people of Israel, not to the Gentiles (Matthew 15:24). Recklessly taking His attention from Israel, in violation of His mission, would be like a father taking food from his children in order to throw it to their pets (Matthews 15:26). The exact word Jesus used here, in Greek, was kunarion , meaning “small dog” or “pet dog.” This is a completely different word from the term kuon , used to refer to unspiritual people or to an “unclean” animal.Why did Jesus call the Canaanite woman a dog?

Jesus give us another story about a persistence widow who is asking for justice, in Luke 18! Both stories shed light on how persistent we have to be when praying - so many had to fight their way into the crowd! How strong minded these believers were. So, they give us hope and determination that persistence pays off!

How many times did the widow go back to ask for justice!

This isn’t a mainstream Muslim view. The traditional view in Islam is that all of the prophets were without sin.

Is any religion mainstream these days?

 

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But, if Jesus was G’d like you claim, then why did he supposedly pray to G’d on the cross to help him and save him, and couldn’t come to his own rescue?

You could ask the same question about Moses. Why wasn’t he allowed to enter the promises land? After leading the Israelites out Egypt and then to journey to Mt. Sinai to receive the law? Moses was not only loved by God (as with Jesus) but he was loved by his own people! Tradition “holds” that there is no prophet like Moses (Deuteronomy 34:10).

However, like Elijah to Elisha, the transferring of
Commission went directly toward another by way of the Spirit. This meaning from Saul to David by Samuel (the prophet) and then David to Solomon, “Lord has blessed me with many sons, but he chose my son Solomon.”

Again, like Moses to Joshua, the same spirit that empowered Moses, making him a prophet of God, can be given to others. But like Moses in regards to not entering the promise land, David was not allowed to build the temple. Solomon was commissioned to the building of the temple. God is always at work with the next creation. David was involved in planning but (hint) not the building of the temple…

Solomon therefore asked God for wisdom to rule his people as King and God grants him discernment and an understanding mind.

Next, before Elijah departs, Elisha, who had refused to leave his side, requested a double portion of his spirit. Elijah promises it will be so if Elisha sees him as he is taken up. Jesus was the pivitol to the tranferring of “The Spirit of God [Ruach Elohim]” to his apostles.

And so, that the apostles would “not be scattered”, Jesus intercedes for them in prayer. Like Moses, God’s leadership will endure even beyond Moses. God’s spirit goes where it wills!
Joshua complains, but Moses answers, “Would that all the LORD’s people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit on them!” (v. 29).
Precisely this is announced much later by Joel, who envisions a time when God will pour the “spirit on all flesh” and “your sons and your daughters shall prophesy” (Joel 2:28-29). Jesus echoes Moses’ welcome of the unexpected prophets when he forbids John from stopping an unknown exorcist who was said to be “not following us.” Like Moses, Jesus is open to God’s work through many sources: “Whoever is not against us is for us” (Mark 9:38-41).

Jesus, in John 17, states it very clearly - He had finished the work that the father (God) commissioned him to do and just like Elijah, sent on his way with three commissions, all of which allude to a future in which he himself will not participate; like Moses and like David.

 

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It is because He is human, and made like us in every way, that He could do three vital things: 1) destroy the devil’s power and free those who were held in slavery by their fear of death (Hebrews 2:15); 2) become a merciful and faithful High Priest in service to God and atone for our sins (Hebrews 2:17); and 3) be the One who is able to sympathize with us in all our weaknesses and infirmities (Hebrews 4:15). Our Lord’s human nature enables Him to sympathize with our own weaknesses, because He was subjected to weakness, too.

“Our Lord’s human nature”! He was merely human…Beyond that is just conjecture.

 

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which is the ‘Protestant way’

 

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Our Lord’s human nature”! He was merely human…Beyond that is just conjecture.

Human, yet Divine!

And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him–the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.

All Great Prophets carried and translated the word back to the people, would you call this conjuctional?

2 Peter 1:20–21: “No prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

How much more being one of God’s anointed as the Messiah - King? The transferring of authority from Prophet to Messiah - King is within the same thought as when John the Baptist acknowledges, " He must increase, but I must decrease.”[a]

 

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I’m glad to see that someone else picked up on that same thought. This part of scripture should be taught that the woman persisted in asking our Lord to cure her daughter. The woman was not going to be ignored!!

"This woman was in a similar situation of being in an unwelcoming place. Bravely she broke all protocol of the time. She was a peasant woman who dared call out to Jesus. He did not respond the first time. She called again and asked for healing for her daughter. Jesus said, “My mission is to the Jews.” She dared to plead with Jesus on behalf of us saying, “Even the dogs eat the scraps from the masters’ table.”

So she lets him know that she understands he has been sent by God to the Jews. But she boldly asks to be included; she insists that we all need God’s message that he brings, even if just the "leftovers."The Canaanite woman spoke for us

 

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Same thing about the woman who asked for “Justice” - Jesus is teaching continual prayer, again and again, rather than continuous, non-stop prayer. To “pray without ceasing” (1 Thessalonians 1:3; 2:13; 5:17; 2 Timothy 1:3) is to pray repeatedly, time and again.

I’ve heard Bible teachers say that once you’ve asked God for something that is displays lack of faith to ask for it again, since you ought to believe you already have received it (Mark 11:24). But Jesus teaches clearly that we are to continue to pray until we receive the answer. That continued pray is not a sign of little faith, but of persistent faith.

 

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Jesus was said to have been made perfect, in order to be made perfect you have to not be perfect. Therefore, to me… he was imperfect.

Someone once said, the salvation of sinners is not of yourselves Ephesians 2:8, it is entirely God’s work, beginning with an act of spiritual resurrection that only God could accomplish. The life-giving power of the one who spoke the universe into being instantly gives life to a spiritual dead soul, hearing to spiritually deaf ears, and sight to spiritually blind eyes. (See Exodus 4:11)

The regeneration of a sinner is the result and a constant reminder of every believer’s participation in Christ resurrection and ascension to Heaven God made us alive together with Christ… And raised us up together and made us sit together in the Heavenly places in Christ Jesus, Ephesians 2:5-6.

Sinners, who are spiritually dead, are resurrected with Christ this being constant reminder to us all how God will resurrect the dead and give life to the soul.
(Read the Song of Hannah, He brings down to [d]Sheol and raises up. In Mary’s Song, "My soul glorifies the Lord
47, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior). The soul glorifies in the Lord and the spirit within us reciprocates together.

And so, as in the beginning, when the Earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. Then God said, “let there be light, and there was light and God saw that the light was good and God separated the light from the darkness.”

God comes into our lives and does the same thing he separates the light from the dark.

 

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Human, yet Divine!

And the Spirit of the LORD will rest on him–the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD.

All Great Prophets carried and translated the word back to the people, would you call this conjuctional?

2 Peter 1:20–21: “No prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

How much more being one of God’s anointed as the Messiah - King? The transferring of authority from Prophet to Messiah - King is within the same thought as when John the Baptist acknowledges, " He must increase, but I must decrease.”[a]

Prophets are divine just by taking revelation. Otherwise the divine essence is simple and infinite which do not settle in human body.

Human body and soul is a mirror to manifestations of act of God. Prophet’s mirrors were so light as mirror of Jesus very light.

 

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Human body and soul is a mirror to manifestations of act of God. Prophet’s mirrors were so light as mirror of Jesus very light.

Right, and in the previous post, listed above and as said, the prophets had authority among the people yet later that authority (given by God) transferred to Mashiach (in Hebrew) or Messiah, King. John the Baptist, being a prophet, had identified and acknowledged Jesus as the Messianic King.

Jesus is both Human (flesh) and Divine (which the Spirit of God was upon him). In scripture, the annointing and acknowledgement were crucial by a prophet of God. In the book of Samuel, the Lord said, “Rise and anoint him; this is the one.”13) So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon David. Samuel then went to Ramah.