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ajk19
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Okay now you’re just being childish. Are you going to defend what I have said or not?
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Dauphin
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Do you think I’m being unreasonable??
What could I possibly do to make me appear more reasonable? What action could I take to back up my assertion that there’s a picture of you saluting Hitler?
Well, I can’t think of anything…
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ajk19
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What are you getting at here?
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Dauphin
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Post. The. Picture.
Then we’ll discuss it. I’m not in the business of discussing hypothetical/theoretical objects.
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ajk19
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Alright, I will direct you here then:
remnantofgod.org/
There are plenty of pictures regarding Hitler to be found here, go under RCC exposed on the side, and then Hitler & the RCC (gotta scroll down some from there for the images).
And please no comments on the “agenda” of this site. Thanks.
remnantofgod.org/
There are plenty of pictures regarding Hitler to be found here, go under RCC exposed on the side, and then Hitler & the RCC (gotta scroll down some from there for the images).
And please no comments on the “agenda” of this site. Thanks.
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Dauphin
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Hitler was the Chancellor of a nation called “Germany”. This is a major nation in Europe.
Believe it or not, prior to the Second World War, Hitler was generally well thought of. He was a world leader, and he was offered the customary respect that would be offered to any world leader. This is why he was allowed to meet with the Pope.
The “salute” was a customary greeting instituted by Hitler. During the third reich, it was a common greeting to the leader. The Bishops and Priests pictured were engaging in a custom which is not necessarily an endoresement of his policies or of his behavior during the Second World War.
Since none of those pictures have dates, we can’t be certain, but I strongly suspect that all of them were taken prior to the atrocities committed during the War. Looking back, they look bad, but they were perfectly normal gestures at the time.
Hitler’s policies were certainly incorrect, and some of these clergymen were certainly imprudent in even appearing to offer their support, but this is hardly an endorsement of Hitler’s atrocities.
You’ve engaged in a smear.
I would also like to point out one thing which speaks to this site’s credibility:
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This is supposedly a picture of a young Ratzinger offering the Nazi salute. It is not. It is a picture of him offering Mass (note the vestments). His left hand has been cut from the picture.
This is really a very sad attempt to tie this great man to the Nazis.
Finally, I would ask you to explain this fact:
3,000 religious, deacons, priests, and bishops were imprisoned at the Dachau Nazi concentration camp.
If the Church were such friends of the Nazis, why were priests targetted by them?
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ajk19
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Maybe some priests refused to go along with them?
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Dauphin
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The vast majority of them.
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Shoshana
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Great site…it is reeling with poison. 
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marymol
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In Pope John Paul 11’s book ’ Crossing the Threshold of Hope ’ he mentions how there are elements of truth in all faiths . This is amazingly true ; inspite of the relentless efforts of the father of lies to veer mankind to all sort of distortions (’ the torrent of water , beinng spewed out by the dragon ’ - Revelations ), how there are profound truths ,esp. about the coming of The Savior …even in Hinduism and Buddhism …true , a truth that has been covered up by the above torrent in these faiths …(buddhism supposedly mentions of a Diamond Buddha who would be 10,000 times brighter than Gautama and how Budda’s followers are to follow Him when He appears !)
Having just listened to the interview by Justice Clarence Thomas who talk about the ’ hig tech lynching’ during his hearings , by powers with agendas , esp, against abortion ( after all , is there anything that would kindle the wrath of the envious one than the life of God’ s precious children !) it is concievable how the truths that the Pope brought into clear light , such as through his writings of Theology of The Body still draw the ire of the same forces …? the spirit of Herod …
May the intercession of the Servant of God Pope John Paul 11 and Gods’ Mercy bring down the grace of repentance to hardened hearts !
Peace!
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palmas85
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What is truly sad is that many of our separated brethren actually believe this stuff to be true.Great site…it is reeling with poison.
On a lighter note however, I rather enjoyed reading the testimony of the former Black Nun, the amazing Sister Charlotte. :
What a hoot. All they did was dress up and modernize the tales of Maria Monk from the 1800’s. In fact, they didn’t even bother to change everything. Whole passages are word for word.Jack Chick would be proud of this site.
Oh and as far as the Holy Father giving the Nazi salute he would have had to at some point. He was a member of the Nazi Youth, a requirement for all boys of his age , and he was in the German Army, drafted, as were almost all men of the time. Unfortunately the photo shows the Holy Father vested for Mass. He was not ordained until 1951, long after Hitler had expired and gone to account for his crimes.
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GandalfTheWhite
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This is interesting but I heard it before many times. So, now that we are at it, which **version **of KJV are you referring to? And why that one and not the other one?
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rien
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See, this is where Christianity lost me. All we have are copies of copies of the original texts. Politics, personal predjudices entered into the copying/translations. Unless you believe God protected the copies from error. But that is not anywhere taught in Scripture.
With the Koran we have the “real thing” so to speak.
I expect you are dubious of the trinity. It is not really there in Scripture as defined by Catholic bishops centuries after Christ.
I think or came to believe the trinity was an add on of the Catholic church.But why are not Bible believing Christians calling foul on this.
Fortunately the rapidly growing Oneness Pentecostal movement is! You need to check it out.
This doesn’t mean I align with Unitarians or LDS. But if you read Scripture it is hard to come to the de fide definition of the trinity as expoused by the Catholic church.
I think the most interesting movement now in Chritianity is Oneness Pentecosatlism. They are pentecostals but calling foul on the trinity dogma. It is not scriptural.
I am not Chritian but I hope there is a fundamental re-examination of the Trinity dogma among orthodox and penteostal Chrsitians.
I did not become Christian cause I found this doctrine un-Biblical. Yet no Bible based churches were on the same path. And I could not embrace Unitarianism or JW or LDS.
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GandalfTheWhite
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We have Scripture and Oral Tradition and both tell are real witnesses of the Word of God, to which we are guided by the infallible Magisterium.
Actually, it is…
Sorry, they aren’t Christian then. So it’s not a Christian movement.
Won’t happen…at least among Catholics. (It’s probably possible among Protestants. You never know what they will end up believing in few years).
The only thing I want to say, thanks for proving the stupidness of Sola Scriptura. Do you mind going around every “I support Sola Scriptura” thread on this Forum and posting this?
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Fred_4
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Are you kidding me here? C’mon! You should know better. Really. The Church sometimes makes pronouncements on an individual that we may know with certainty is in Heaven with God, but has never made one which states that an individual is certainly in Hell. Not Judas Iscariot, not Hitler, no one. Because we must always trust and hope in God’s divine mercy, and must not presume to place ourselves above his judgement. God has given us the sacraments, but He is not bound by them. This is not the same as saying “I’m OK, you’re OK,” regarding religion… that everything is basically the same between them all. If you can be Catholic… you should be! But if one is not Catholic, that doesn’t mean that one is necessarily eternally screwed.
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