If He did perform private miracles for His family, I wouldn’t call it playing games. No, they did not need His miracles to know He was the Son of God. But just maybe, as a loving son, He MAY have made their lives a little easier by making the wine sweeter and the bread softer. And what if He did perform private miracles for the Holy Family, how on earth would that change anything? His first miracle is the Marriage Feast of Cana. So be it.
If, maybe, what if, all products of a vivid imagination with NO facts to back it up. There are sooo many known things we can ponder on that are worth out time and effort to study and cherish. Spending time with Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament and the awesome Mystery of His Sacred Presence, for one. God Bless, Memaw
So If I pray for something and it is not immediately answered it is a sin if I pray for it again ? ?
That’s right. However, neither does she say, “Son, perform a miracle.” She’s just coming to Him with a problem – like good mothers do – and asking her son to help.
Read a few verses farther. The reason for performing the miracle, we find out, is that it manifested His glory, such that His disciples began to believe in Him. It wasn’t just “let’s do something nice for someone” or even “make the wine sweeter or bread softer.” Jesus’ miracles in the Gospels always have theological or ministry-related goals.
Mary’s trust in her son doesn’t imply that she expected a miracle; at the heart of it, that’s your presumption that’s leading you down this path. I don’t know about you, but my Mom often comes to me, identifying a problem and (implicitly) asking me to help out. Doesn’t mean that there’s any request for a miracle, though…
no, that is the problem. She didn’t just tell him about the situation. According to my debater, the sin came when she told the servants to do what he tells you.
As a Catholic, if you think the Blessed Mother sinned, I think that’s a serious accusation. I’d talk to a priest about that if I were you! God Bless, Memaw
no, the sin is because Jesus told her it was not yet his time. basically my debater is saying that she defied the will of God by going ahead and telling the servants to do what he tells you.
I am debating a non-catholic on this and asked for help from the forum. I have no problem believing in all the church teachings. But this person has a real issue with Mary and I am not that skilled of an apologist.
Ask your debater if telling them to “Do as HE Tells You” is a sin??? HE did the telling, NOT Mary. God Bless, Memaw
Okay. Let’s end this conversation. I don’t want to argue. It is my observation and my thoughts. Nothing sinister. And the world will still rotate and all will be well.
Right; but, as we’ve responded, if she sinned, then so did Jesus, by doing a miracle against God’s will and “before His time.” Since that’s impossible, so is the idea that she sinned.
That was His Father’s will. Nothing was going to stop the Passion.
How did Mary disregard Jesus’ will? He said the time has not come. He did turn the water into wine. I think He may have done it because of the “Honor thy mother and father” commandment. So it wasn’t in His plan, but honoring His parents IS.
That is what I said earlier.Right; but, as we’ve responded, if she sinned, then so did Jesus, by doing a miracle against God’s will and “before His time.” Since that’s impossible, so is the idea that she sinned.
Ask your debater about what Jesus stated about the end times That He knew not the day.
First, Mary’s response does not, necessarily, constitute a sin. Mary only says, “Do whatever he tells you.” Now if Jesus said, “Go sit down.” Then, presumably, the servants would have sat down.
Mary was seeking understanding in either case.