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You might be surprised to learn that we Catholics actually read and are aware of how the Catholic translations translate this verse.Even the NAB translates this phrase as “Hail, favored one!” I really wasn’t expecting that. But there it is. nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/luke/luke1.htm
Ok, scroll down. Look at verse 28. Surprised? Now scroll back up and check what version it is. Yes, it really is the New American Bible. They did a good job on this verse.
And you base your judgment on…what? Your own expertise in Greek? Or your own doctrinal presuppositions?I haven’t run across any besides the Vulgate (and the D-R preservation of it) that say “full of grace.” Contemporary English says “you who are truly blessed”…It’s not a very good translation, but it’s not the bad one I’m looking for. continues searching…
Ah! Wycliffe New Testament also says “full of grace.” Over 90% of medium to high-quality translations read something like “favored one” or “highly favored one,” though. Including the NAB. I think the only place saying “highly favored daughter” is in the older RSV, and I say “I think” because I’m finding it to be less accessible than most translations. I do see that it’s been changed in the NRSV, though. That was a good decision.
Unlike you, I do not pretend to be an expert in Greek. However, like you, I can do a bit of research, and I offer the following from “Father Mateo”, the pen name of a Catholic priest who was the professor emeritus of New Testament Greek at a prominent university. In a small book, Refuting the Attack on Mary, which I bought a couple of months ago during our discussion of the perpetual virginity of Mary, Fr. Mateo writes:After the angel says this, Mary says nothing but wonders “What manner may this greeting be?” The angel explains why he called her “favored one.” He tells her “Do not be afraid, for you have found favor with God.” That word translated “favor” has the same stem as the Greek word kecharitomene- it’s just the noun form, singular, accusative, and feminine. Translating it as “grace” doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in either use of the word.
“Luke 1:28 uses the perfect passive participle, kecharitomene. The perfect stem of a Greek verb denotes ‘continuance of a completed action’; ‘completed action with a permanent result is denoted by the perfect stem.’ On morphological grounds, therefore, it is correct to paraphrase kecharitomene as ‘completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.’”
Mateo goes on to point out that other examples of this perfect tense include John 19:30: “It is finished”.
The “favor” described by the angel does not refer to the fact that Mary would bear a child. Under the circumstances, it should be obvious that bearing a child out of wedlock was a questionable “favor”, at best. If Mary had found favor with God, it was because she had dedicated herself to Him as a Perpetual Virgin, and God was pleased with her decision.It makes even less sense as an “implicit reference” to Mary’s sinlessness when you read the angel’s continued explanation. After telling Mary she’s found “favor with God,” Gabriel tells her what this “favor” entails. You will be with child, give birth to a son, call him Jesus, so forth and so on. I don’t believe this is an implicit reference to God bestowing “divine grace” on Mary (remember when I asked what sort of grace and you said “amazing grace?” I found out the preferred name for it is “divine grace.” Small sidebar).
Mateo, professor emeritus of NT Greek, disagrees. He states, “I contend that gratia plena is not at all a mistranslation. It is a felicitous phrase, as close to Greek as Latin can come and much to be preferred to modern efforts to improve it: ‘favored one’ (NAB [1986], RSV), ‘highly favored’ (NIV), and the monstrosity, ‘highly favored daughter’ (NAB [1970]).”“Highly favored” is actually a much better translation than anything like “full of grace.” Calling her “daughter” isn’t really so bad either, though I probably wouldn’t do it. Acceptable translations include “one who is highly favored” and “highly favored one.” It’s not really so bad to change “one” to “daughter.” It’s technically true…she is someone’s daughter. It’s not really a traditional way of rendering this kind of verb, though. “Favored one” is probably the way to go.
Fear not. I am not a Vulgate fanatic. I actually grew up on the NIV and have only recently switched to the RSV-CE due to the obvious bias of the translators of the NIV.I realize the Vulgate says “full of grace,” but it’s not the first instance where St. Jerome got something wrong or translated something imperfectly. We continue making new versions because we can improve on the old ones. I really hope you aren’t going to treat the Vulgate like the “KJV-only” kinds of people treat their favored translation. It’s just not smart. You should focus on the original Hebrew and Greek, then see which translations do a good job with them. Don’t make a habit of hitching yourself to one particular translation as if it’s inherently better than another one. No translation is divinely inspired.
Allow me to offer these words of wisdom from Mateo concerning kecharitomene and the Immaculate Conception of Mary:
“One word of one Bible verse does not prove the doctrine, but kecharitomene proves the harmony of the doctrine with scripture.”