Did Mary sin?

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Did Jesus’ mom, Mary, sin? I know she was born without original sin, but did she ever sin in her life?
 
This is one of the hard point to believe in when it comes to this kind of question because the BVM is just a mere human being. But if one would make a focus on the woman in Gen. 3: 15 and makes an evaluation whether it refers to Eve or to the BVM, one would come to a conclusion that the BVM has not sinned at all ever since. Why? 1Tim. 2: 14 clearly states that Eve had sinned, and if one sinned he or she belongs to the devil 1John 3: 8.

How could there be enmity between the woman and the devil in Gen. 3: 15 if the woman refers to Eve? They were already friends or ally!

So, the woman in Gen. 3: 15 could refer perfectly to the BVM,
 
Joero said:
This is one of the hard point to believe in when it comes to this kind of question because the BVM is just a mere human being. But if one would make a focus on the woman in Gen. 3: 15 and makes an evaluation whether it refers to Eve or to the BVM, one would come to a conclusion that the BVM has not sinned at all ever since. Why? 1Tim. 2: 14 clearly states that Eve had sinned, and if one sinned he or she belongs to the devil 1John 3: 8.

How could there be enmity between the woman and the devil in Gen. 3: 15 if the woman refers to Eve? They were already friends or ally!

So, the woman in Gen. 3: 15 could refer perfectly to the BVM,
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Chicago_Bears said:
Did Jesus’ mom, Mary, sin? I know she was born without original sin, but did she ever sin in her life?
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Absolutely not. Mary was born free of original sin, and therefore, free of the concupiscence (the tendency to sin) that goes along with it (which we all share). This was a necessary grace needed in order to fulfill the huge role she had in mothering and raising Our Lord and Savior.
 
Some people would say that “how sure was the catholic teaching that the woman in Gen. 3: 15 really refers to the Blessed Virgin Mary (BVM)?”

Firstly, in Gen. 3: 15 it states there that the offspring of the woman would crush the head of the serpent. Let’s not forget that Eve’s offsprings, in the book of Genesis, were Cain , Abel and Seth etc. and nowhere in the bible that states that one of them crushed the head of the serpent or any ordinary snake that we can allude to that this particular offspring of hers’ fits to the offspring in Gen. 3: 15. But in Psalms 74: 12 - 14 it states that God crushed the head of the dragon. The dragon or the old serpent is the devil or satan Rev. 12: 9. In John 1: 1 Jesus Christ is God referring to the “Word”.

The offspring in Gen. 3: 15 refers to Christ whose mother is the BVM. during His incarnation.
 
You will notice that it refers to HER seed, and to the seed of the “snake” satan. In a usual pregnancy it’s the man’s seed that is used to get the woman pregnant. So, that’s another thing that points us to Christ. He had no Biological father. No *earthly *father that is.
 
The Blessed Virgin was sinless. And she had to be. Only a sinless woman could have carried God in her womb.
 
No.

This truth is as evident as is the Trinity.

The notion of Virginity alone and how it is valued implies purity as both a past, present and future even to be the arc of God.

The notion of Jesus as new Adam necessitates the scriptural symmetry between masculine and feminine and so the essential need for a new Eve in Mary. Both must have perfect untainted spitiual natures - untarnished and unfallen to replace Adam and Eve as the new protegees for humanity.

For Mary to be “blessed above all women” she had to exceed Eve - who was created pure and sinless but fell. This means Mary too had to be created sinless but to exceed Eve’s blessing could not fall - therefor sinless.

I am surprised that St. John did not expound these very easily discernible truths in very direct terms in his Gospel - he lived with her and knew her and conversed with her at length and no doubt Mary shared amazing revelations that Jesus had given her. Perhaps she was told to remain silent about them for these latter days.

James

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CentralFLJames said:
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I am surprised that St. John did not expound these very easily discernible truths in very direct terms in his Gospel - he lived with her and knew her and conversed with her at length and no doubt Mary shared amazing revelations that Jesus had given her. Perhaps she was told to remain silent about them for these latter days.

James

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You are right!
During those days, the spreading of the gospel about Christ was very necessary in order for the people to believe Jesus as the messiah which being foretold in the torah, the first five books of the old testament. About the blessed virgin Mary, during that time, I think it’s not quite necessary to give emphasis on it.
 
Sacred Tradition tells us that the BVM was immaculately conceived and during the course of her life did not sin.Sacred Tradition(from which Sacred Scripture sprang)is given equal weight to Sacred Scripture.The Magisterium(the inerrant teaching authority of the Catholic Church protected by the Holy Spirit)guarantees that this is the Truth.

One either submits to this Truth or one doesn’t.
One is either Catholic or one isn’t.
 
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The Blessed Virgin was sinless. And she had to be. Only a sinless woman could have carried God in her womb.
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The Blessed Virgin’s sinlessness was not a matter of necessity. Rather, the Virgin Mary was immaculately conceived and preserved from sin by God’s grace because it was fitting for her to be so. Had God chosen otherwise, His choice would not have prevented the Incarnation.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Good evening all. This is my first post here, so please excuse any errors I may commit in regards to the forum rules.

I would like to post a follow-up question to the resounding response of “Mary was sinless”.

Since Mary was born without original sin, and did not sin during the entirety of her existence, would that also imply that Christ’s work on the cross was completely unnecessary for her salvation?
 
Kaikyou said:
Good evening all. This is my first post here, so please excuse any errors I may commit in regards to the forum rules.

I would like to post a follow-up question to the resounding response of “Mary was sinless”.

Since Mary was born without original sin, and did not sin during the entirety of her existence, would that also imply that Christ’s work on the cross was completely unnecessary for her salvation?
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Would that also imply that Christ’s work on the cross was completely unnecessary for her salvation?

No.

The merits of Christ’s passion and suffering on the cross are so profound and meritorious to God the Father that there is a **prevenient nature **to Christ’s sacrifice. This is the same principal we see in the upper room of the last supper where The Lord offers His Body up at the Seder meal under the appearances of bread and wine before He is actually sacrificed on the cross. This also confirms the eternal and timeless nature of the One Sacrifice as being simultaneously a past, present and future event and why Catholics re-present the same one offering on the cross during the mass in our sacramental offering of bread and wine which becomes the body and blood of Christ in the same mystical way as the last supper.

In Mary’s case, essentially by the merits of Christ’s suffering “to be” gained are so profound and pleasing to the Omniscient God (who can see past-present-future in the “now” of eternity) that He afforded Jesus the honor of granting first graces so to speak to Mary in preserving her free of original sin before the actual sacrifice. Thus the prevenient nature of Christ’ passion are applied super abundantly. In other words Jesus pre-saves Mary as her savior and then also through grace won preemptively supernaturally protects her over the course of her life from ever sinning. Hence “Hail full of Grace” as the angel greets her – she has no place for sin to take hold literally as grace is infused to its full measure and the full capacity of the human soul. This also is why it is proper to say that Mary’s soul magnifies the Lord and why it is also proper to say “all generations shall call me blessed above all women”. To be blessed above all women is to be second to none - including Eve who was also blessed to be created sinless as first woman of the human race but who fell to temptation. Ergo - to be blessed higher than Eve then Mary had to be also created without sin and also preserved from ever sinning as Eve did.

The rest of us are redeemed “after the fact” so to speak and we are held to original sin so as to be indebted to Mercy rather than Sin or pride.

Jesus wanted to exempt His mother in a special way as a fitting honor for the “arc of the New Covenant” (which mirrors the arc of the covenant of the Jews which bore the stone tablets of Law, the staff of priestly authority and the manna that came down from heaven inside it). He also supernaturally preserved her virginity so that even in childbirth she was preserved from losing it – there are traditions that speak of a miracalous impulse of light where the infant Jesus miraculously passes from womb to cradle so to speak – sparing His mother a painful and labored birth. Thus the way the Lord entered from heaven to earth is sealed to all men and no others may enter or pass this way (Ezekiel 44:1-3).
Ezekiel 44:1-3
Then He brought me back by the way of the outer gate of the sanctuary, which faces the east; and it was shut. 2 The LORD said to me, “This gate shall be shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it, for the LORD God of Israel has entered by it; therefore it shall be shut. 3 “As for the prince, he shall sit in it as prince to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by way of the porch of the gate and shall go out by the same way.”

see also:

Rev 3:7
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:
He who is holy, who is true, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, and who shuts and no one opens, says this
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James
 
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