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Its not just you, but I am suggesting your view is in the minority. An admittedly vocal minority, but a minority all the same.TMC wrote:
No. My argument is that Humani Generis is a real Papal encyclical which enjoys authority in the Church and forbids Catholics espousing polygenesis. I am far from alone in this:
Wikipedia:
Introductory Dictionary of Theological and Religious studies:
Fr Julian Large, Provost, Brompton Oratory:
Forbes magazine:
Msgr Charles Pope, official blogger, Archidiocese of Washington DC
Seriously man, it’s not just me. I am appalled by this reality, and wish it were not so…but I remain convinced that it is.
But maybe I’m wrong. Certainly there are posters here that will tell you that monogenism is always and forever banned. Of course, there are also posters here that will tell you that evolution of any kind is banned, that Genesis is literal history, etc. etc. There was even a guy that used to come here to rant about geocentrism. They can all point you to Church documents they think support their views. (Of course, that is what I am doing, too.)
If your point here is just to make the Church look silly by pointing out what you perceive to be an irreconcilable conflict with science – well that’s an odd hobby, but whatever. If you really want to discuss what the Church teaches, I would suggest that a thorough review of what Church theologians are writing will support my view. You may well disagree, so be it. But either way don’t hang your hat on one sentence in one document from before we were born. That kind of proof texting in what fundamentalists do – decide on a viewpoint and then go get a quote to support it.
To be clear, at the end of the day I am not personally particularly concerned about what the Church formally says on this topic. I like to come here and discuss these issues because it is one of the places you can do that. But although I am interested in what the Church has to say, I think I must (and we all should) form my own opinion on the matter.
But to the extent that the Church’s view is that important to you, I still don’t see why HG should be particularly troubling. As I have pointed out, it is at least moderated, if not contradicted, by more recent Church statements. Even if I am wrong, and the statements from JPII and BXVI are meaningless, and Communion and Stewardship is not authoritative, etc. etc., worst case is there is one dated encyclical that expresses one Pope’s opinion which appears to conflict with current scientific consensus. Hardly the most troubling thing to be found in an encyclical. Again, my view is that opinion, read in context, does not bar a modern Catholic from believing in polygenism. But even if it did, it would neither change my opinion or trouble me.