Did the Buddha talk about God?

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My question was very specific. Where are you getting the information that Maitreya will be number five out of one hundred and four?

And I would ask you how you know or what makes you think that is anywhere near accurate, but I know there is no way for you to know anything like that.
Jesus in his “pure land” said I go to prepare a place for you. Amitabah created his “pure land” or heaven and said to be with him just call his name. Whose walk is easier? Not sinning or just calling out a name? hint: You have to abstain and walk right some time. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_Land_sect.
 
Then you are saying the God does not exists. If He exists then He is a member of the set {All that exists}. If He does not exist then He is not a member of that set.

rossum
🤷 Is 0 a number, or not?
 
Here, billcu1. Read up a bit, please.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achintya_Bheda_Abheda

Remember that we fight, not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities. The error is very subtle and extremely easy to fall into and difficult to defend against. The only recourse we have is to the Magisterium. But Sri Caitanya may be able to help you a little.
  1. Magisterium
  2. Bible
  3. Tradition
As I was taught in RCIA.

The thing is though and it’s fine if you don’t understand. The church is the left hand of the body and then there’s the right hand. You seem to me to be doing just fine. Better than alot of folks who have no interest in righteousness.
 
Here, billcu1. Read up a bit, please.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achintya_Bheda_Abheda

Remember that we fight, not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities. The error is very subtle and extremely easy to fall into and difficult to defend against. The only recourse we have is to the Magisterium. But Sri Caitanya may be able to help you a little.
As catholics I would agree and say the Magisterium is where to go. I am a theist and that’s what makes me turn to the Latin rite and have an interest in hinduism (the old brahminism during buddhism) But the thing about that is this. One must be open minded else you get into a typical brainwashing situation.
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When you have a foot problem you go to the podiatrist, not the plummer. When your child is ill you see a pediatrician, not an architect. Why would one want to go to the magisterium about buddhism. The church will tell you all about it surely and not know a thing. We must be wise. Wise as serpents. I'm just opening up to you because when I have spiritual problems I go to my preist or the church. I don't talk to Lamas anymore *unless the situation specifically called for it*. Like a question concerning Shakyamuni or buddhism. Buddhism doesn't teach fear. The most disquieting thing I have about the church is that all seems to be ruled in fear. They keep you afraid. God is not the author of fear. One should repent for love of God and pleasing him. Not being afraid of damnation there's something wrong there.
Pax.
 
bill

**When you have a foot problem you go to the podiatrist, not the plummer. When your child is ill you see a pediatrician, not an architect. Why would one want to go to the magisterium about buddhism. The church will tell you all about it surely and not know a thing. We must be wise. Wise as serpents. **

The wisdom is to go to the teaching authority of the Church. The magisterium has that teaching authority. I don’t. The magisterium does not exist in a vacuum. It is composed of bishops priests and theologians (clerical and lay). When the magisterium rules on anything it rules after due consideration. It is wise, wise as serpents (though I have never understood why serpents are wise. :confused:😉
 
Then then answer is no, Buddha did not talk about God. The gods he talked about are not God. They are something lower.
 
Who revealed the existence of heavens, hells, and gods to Buddha?
Buddhism is not a revealed religion, it is discovered. Each Buddha rediscovers the truths of Buddhism and preaches them to others. In time, I have seen figures of 5,000 to 10,000 years, the religion will decay and disappear. Then a new Buddha will be born and will rediscover the truths of Buddhism for himself.
And if these are immaterial places or beings, why do you believe they exist?
The question is not particularly important; their existence or non-existence has no impact on my path. I have no reason to disbelieve in them.
I still don’t get how the Buddha would deal with the Big Bang. If the universe was created on day one, as science tells us, how would Buddhism accommodate that knowledge to the system? Christianity accommodates it quite easily in Genesis.
The Buddhist universe does not always have a material component. There are times when it includes a material component and times when it does not. The Big Bang was the point at which the universe last changed from immaterial only to mixed material and immaterial. In future the material component will again disappear for a time only to reappear later.

rossum
 
Remember our jobs as catholics is to witness. All will not come to Christ and they’re not doomed if they don’t. That’s a christian selling point. Jesus said to the Lord all those you have choose to come to me. God decides who comes.
If you hold the Catholic Faith then you must believe, as Catholics do, that if a person knows the Catholic Faith is the truth and then refuses to be joined to it, he cannot be saved. Willful rejection of the known truth is a Sin against the Holy Ghost.

It is not a teaching of the Church that “all will not come to Christ and they’re not doomed if they don’t” It is rather the teaching of the Church that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one comes to the Father but by Him.

Now, there is some theological speculation about implicit vs explicit faith. Implicit Faith is viewed as an attitude of mind wherein one seeks the truth diligently, and strives with all one’s strength to live up to what one believes God wants one to do. Such a one can be saved, but with difficulty, and that one is in ignorance of the true dual Nature of Christ. Such ignorance, if it be invincible, can be excused, but it is not an ideal situation, as such a one will necessary lack very many helps that can only be received in explicit faith. For such as these, it ought always to be our aim, to bring them into explicit faith, so that they may be more easily saved and may merit a better crown.

I wouldn’t be so concerned about “selling points.” The sole “selling point” of anything can only be its truth; and in a secondary way to truth, its facility of application. One both these counts, the Rosary is a very important key. The Rosary is first of all a devotion specifically approved by God and recommended by Him through all His prophets and Saints. Secondly, the Rosary makes Catholicism far easier to practice faithfully. It destroys heresy and converts from sin. It is impossible to go too far in recommending the Rosary.

Now I am going to ask you for clarification, what do you mean by your phrase, above, “Jesus said to the Lord. . .”? JESUS IS LORD! That is the Faith of the Church. No one can be Catholic who does not believe that.
 
Then I know I have been successful in teachings. They that have ears to hear let them hear. He who seeks will find. You’re fine where you are I can see.

He who seeks will find and become troubled, then astonished and reign over all.-- Jesus

You’ve got to get up and out of the comfort zone to find.
“He who seeks will find and become troubled, then astonished and reign over all.-- Jesus”

Doesn’t sound canonical, sounds Gnostic.

Why, in your opinion, were the Gnostic writings excluded from the Canon of Scripture?
 
That’s right. They think 0 means not exist. 0 means beyond all.
0 is called the Origin.

Q. Can something come from nothing?

A. No, of course not.

Q. Can something come from the Origin?

A. Yes, of course; everything whatsoever, must.
 
  1. Magisterium
  2. Bible
  3. Tradition
As I was taught in RCIA.

The thing is though and it’s fine if you don’t understand. The church is the left hand of the body and then there’s the right hand. You seem to me to be doing just fine. Better than alot of folks who have no interest in righteousness.
What are you signifying by your word, “understand?” There is human understanding and there is the Holy Spirit’s Gift of Understanding. Human understanding can be limited and incomplete. God understands everything, so the Holy Spirit’s Gift of Understanding is a portion of God’s Infinite Understanding, that he gives to whom He chooses.

I will say to you that I am enjoying this conversation, and I am not worried about you, as you appear to be on a Path that is open to attaining the End.

That said, you and I are both aware that you are not at the End, yet. The Truth is vast, literally beyond the possibility of comprehension. Truth is Infinite, whereas human language is finite. Therefore the Infinity of Truth can in no way be expressed in human language. But it can be pointed to, the way a finger can point to the moon. No one can draw the moon down from heaven, but we can see the moon and we can point to it to show it to someone else. But the classic problem with pointing to the moon is, of course, that many insist on looking at the finger, and no matter how many times you point them to the moon, they refuse to look up. They think you are actually intending to show them your finger.

All our words are like the finger, the Truth is like the moon.
 
rossum

** The Big Bang was the point at which the universe last changed from immaterial only to mixed material and immaterial. In future the material component will again disappear for a time only to reappear later.**

So if this is not from revelation, you know it how? :confused:
 
As catholics I would agree and say the Magisterium is where to go. I am a theist and that’s what makes me turn to the Latin rite and have an interest in hinduism (the old brahminism during buddhism) But the thing about that is this. One must be open minded else you get into a typical brainwashing situation.
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When you have a foot problem you go to the podiatrist, not the plummer. When your child is ill you see a pediatrician, not an architect. Why would one want to go to the magisterium about buddhism. The church will tell you all about it surely and not know a thing. We must be wise. Wise as serpents. I'm just opening up to you because when I have spiritual problems I go to my preist or the church. I don't talk to Lamas anymore *unless the situation specifically called for it*. Like a question concerning Shakyamuni or buddhism. Buddhism doesn't teach fear. The most disquieting thing I have about the church is that all seems to be ruled in fear. They keep you afraid. God is not the author of fear. One should repent for love of God and pleasing him. Not being afraid of damnation there's something wrong there.
Pax.
Very, very, very good! I would recommend to you to read Nostra Aetate. It mentions Buddhism by name.

'Buddhism, in its various forms, realizes the radical insufficiency of this changeable world; it teaches a way by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain, by their own efforts or through higher help, supreme illumination. Likewise, other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing “ways,” comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. ’

But it is, as you say, that the Church has no official word on the specific details of Buddhist thought. What she teaches, above, can be taken at face value, as the Truth. The First Noble Truth is thus clearly expressed above as “the radical insufficiency of this changeable world.” The Second Noble Truth is not mentioned in this passage, but it is mentioned in Scripture, as “desire gives birth to sin, and sin, when fully grown, too has a child, and the child is death.” (James 1:15) The Third Noble Truth is again expressed in the passage above, as "men [and women] may be able either to acquire the state of perfect liberation, or attain. . . supreme illumination. " Finally, the Fourth Noble Truth is mentioned, as "by their own efforts or through higher help. " — the ellipsis just above.

Thus the Church explicitly acknowledges the Four Noble Truths, although she does not go into detail, because her mission is not to expound Buddhism but Catholicism.

Also I recommend to you Lumen Gentium, which teaches,

" Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel."
 
Buddhism doesn’t teach fear. The most disquieting thing I have about the church is that all seems to be ruled in fear. They keep you afraid. God is not the author of fear. One should repent for love of God and pleasing him. Not being afraid of damnation there’s something wrong there.

Pax.
I wish to present you with two passages from Holy Scripture.
  1. “The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom.”
  2. “Perfect Love drives out all fear.”
These two passages are not contradictory! It is, perhaps, that they make a useful koan for Christian meditation.
 
Then then answer is no, Buddha did not talk about God. The gods he talked about are not God. They are something lower.
Yes, that is the real answer to the O.P.

Can you express it in a way that rossum will accept and understand? I see that as the primary challenge in this thread. The answer has been given, but perhaps not understood, and it is the understanding that is the principal thing we are after.
 
So if this is not from revelation, you know it how?
I read the Tripitaka. Actually I could probably get it from the Upanishads as well, the idea is common to both Hinduism as Buddhism. The material universe is given as the “breathing out” and “breathing in” of Brahma. Breathing out is big bang to maximum extension; breathing in is maximum extension to big crunch. The pause between breaths is the immaterial only phase.

This is not particularly important.

rossum
 
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