Differences between Mormon Missions and Catholic Missions

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You had to have Rebecca find the verse in the Doctrine and Covenants…which meant that you didn’t know about it. This tells me that wherever you got your information, it probably isn’t authoritative.

Now kindly show where Bishops were paid up through 1909.
it does not matter if LDS clergy receive pay or not. The GA get a stipend because being a GA is a full-time job…

well, so is being a Priest. Being an LDS Bishop is something they do after work. They have a full-time job. They receive an income and then do their church work in their free time
 
You had to have Rebecca find the verse in the Doctrine and Covenants…which meant that you didn’t know about it. This tells me that wherever you got your information, it probably isn’t authoritative.

Now kindly show where Bishops were paid up through 1909.
StevieD is off a little bit, but not by much. The correct date is 1899. (It is easy to see how those dates could be confused.) In the persecution prior to the 1890 Manifesto, the LDS Church had a lot of property confiscated by the federal government, and then there was a major recession in the decade following it. This left the Church in ruin and resulted in a number of decisive financial reforms under Lorenzo Snow. One of those reforms was financial incentives for full-tithe paying (which is why so much of the Church’s monies are recycled for the benefit of the membership to this day). In later decades this developed into the requirement of full-tithing for temple worthiness. Another reform was a decrease and eventual elimination of the stipend for bishops and stake presidents, which previously had been taken from 10% of the total tithes in each ward. (That was not a big stipend considering the low rate of tithing prior to Snow’s reforms.)

You can find this documented in E. Jay Bell’s article, The Windows of Heaven Revisited: The 1899 Tithing Reformation, in the Spring 1994 issue of Journal of Mormon History. You can also find it documented in 1 Corinthians 9, where St. Paul teaches that ministers of the gospel have a right to material reward for their service, although St. Paul himself abstains from that right as an exception to the general rule:

If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ. Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the alter are partakers with the alter? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. 1 Cor (9:11-14)

Note that the word translated here loosely as “power” is the Greek exousia, which properly means “authority” or “right.” It is that same word used in Matt 7:29: “For he taught them as one having authority (exousia), and not as the scribes.” For modern readers, the NRSV translation gives more justice to the sense of it:

*If we have sown spiritual good among you, is it too much if we reap your material benefits? If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we still more? Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in what is sacrificed on the altar? In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel. *

Thus it is exceptionally admirable, according to the gospel, for a minister to waive his right to pay; yet that is exceptional; it is still a minister’s right, by virtue of the gospel, to receive material support for his work, whether in the form of money or some other benefit. For this reason, an unpaid ministry is not a mark of the true Church. Yet a strict disallowance of ministerial pay is a breach of a minister’s gospel right. Note as well that this is not a matter of mere policy, because St. Paul presents it as a maxim of universal justice.* Ministers in spiritual matters have a right to worldly support precisely because the spiritual has dominion over the worldly.* This is not a historically relative principle, and St. Paul justifies it from both Old and New Testament practices.
 
(Eliza, thanks…but I had an experience of being allowed to go to college through the government. After two weeks in the program, got on my knees and thanked God. Asked how I could ‘pay Him back’, and in prayer saw African women and children in the pouring rain looking at me to be educated…I dismissed it. Went to college and in my freshman year, asked Christ how I could follow Him…the answer was, ‘Be a missionary in Africa’. It was so real it frightened me and I did not want to go. I was hounded for a number of years so that I quit college right before student teaching. But I got a lead to go to this major city, and to a particular parish. Went back to finish college, ended up in that parish a year or so later, signed my papers to go, my pastor asked what I was going to do with my life a few weeks after signing. And that is how it happened.

I had premonitions that came true. Had to return because of the Marxist Leninist take over…just yesterday got a book by a Protestant minister who had documented on the killing and mayhem that was blocked by our American media; we only heard about the opposing side…how food was being sent out of this ravished country to feed the communist block countries…)
 
I have never in my life met a Catholic missionary who is a lay person and not a priest or religious? I know they’re out there, somewhere, but in all these years I’ve never met or seen one? Why is the laity so involved in missionary work in Protestant churches but not in Catholic ones? I work with SO MANY Protestants who did missionary work in their youth or still are doing it during vacations, etc. I’m not talking Mormons either. These are evangelicals mostly but various denominations. My Anglican parish just got back from a medical mission to Honduras. They go constantly and it’s ALL parishoners, no priests at all from our parish. Why is this not a reality so much in Catholicism?
 
Apparently the Legion of Mary does door to door evangelization.🤷
 
Hi Guerney,

When I finally ‘gave in’, most missions were NOT taking American lay because of the political situation in the world…the Marxists have done a great job in spreading anti-American sentiment throughout the world. There was an American Franciscan mission in Brazil…I inquired with them and they did not respond.

The Franciscans here on the West coast do have missionary work for lay people requiring a year’s commitment to one of their missions. It takes alot of work for the priests to set up a place for lay people with our charism. We are not called to the same lifestyle as they, but we do acknowledge each other’s companionship in the work in mission, want to worship, pray and have communal life with one another.

For a Catholic lay person to have a missionary calling, it is indeed rare right now. We as a Catholic faith are going through tremendous changes right now…and I believe the Holy Spirit is calling every lay person to pull in and to focus just on your immediate situation…I believe that missions will be here soon…we will have enough to deal with with those around us who are finally seeing the truth of the modern world,…and will turn to God…and we must be ready for them.

The mission will be here on our own soil.
 
Hi Guerney,

When I finally ‘gave in’, most missions were NOT taking American lay because of the political situation in the world…the Marxists have done a great job in spreading anti-American sentiment throughout the world. There was an American Franciscan mission in Brazil…I inquired with them and they did not respond.

The Franciscans here on the West coast do have missionary work for lay people requiring a year’s commitment to one of their missions. It takes alot of work for the priests to set up a place for lay people with our charism. We are not called to the same lifestyle as they, but we do acknowledge each other’s companionship in the work in mission, want to worship, pray and have communal life with one another.

For a Catholic lay person to have a missionary calling, it is indeed rare right now. We as a Catholic faith are going through tremendous changes right now…and I believe the Holy Spirit is calling every lay person to pull in and to focus just on your immediate situation…I believe that missions will be here soon…we will have enough to deal with with those around us who are finally seeing the truth of the modern world,…and will turn to God…and we must be ready for them.

The mission will be here on our own soil.
So…when you have these new lay missions, which it seems you approve of…does that mean that such missions are suddenly a good idea so that y’all will stop criticizing Mormons for having them…

or is this another situation like religious commercials, where it’s not the deed that taints the doer, but the doer that taints the deed?

I saw a political cartoon once that summed this whole thing up: It was a three panel cartoon. The first section depicted a group of people frantically working to clean oil off the beaches, birds, themselves, feeding other workers and generally being of great help with the gulf oil spill. One of the onlookers (who were walking around holding signs protesting BP) was praising their work to the skies. The second section had one of the workers turn around; he was wearing a “Young Republicans” T-shirt. In the third section the formerly complimentary onlooker was talking about how venal, showboating, hypocritical and stupid the workers were.

Recent threads here have forcibly reminded me of that cartoon.
 
I have never in my life met a Catholic missionary who is a lay person and not a priest or religious? I know they’re out there, somewhere, but in all these years I’ve never met or seen one? Why is the laity so involved in missionary work in Protestant churches but not in Catholic ones? I work with SO MANY Protestants who did missionary work in their youth or still are doing it during vacations, etc. I’m not talking Mormons either. These are evangelicals mostly but various denominations. My Anglican parish just got back from a medical mission to Honduras. They go constantly and it’s ALL parishoners, no priests at all from our parish. Why is this not a reality so much in Catholicism?
It has to do with ecclesiology. Protestantism is on the whole far more individualistic than Catholicism in their view of salvation. As a result, they view things like missionary work that is the duty of the Church as extending to each member individually, so that everyone has a gospel call to personally spread the Word. Mormonism follows Protestantism in this view, which is so widely accepted now that almost no one ever notices that it is unbiblical - not in the sense that the Bible contradicts it explicitly, but it is totally absent from the Bible, and indication point in the opposite direction. In Paul’s epistles, for instance, while Paul himself is out preaching among the unconverted and asking local congregations to pray for his success, he never enjoins them to take the word to others, but is entirely concerned with how they live among themselves. He never upbraids the Corinthians, for example, for passing up opportunities to share their faith with unbelievers. The assumption that Paul takes for granted at every point is that missionary work is his own calling, and his companions’ calling, but is not a specific duty for the other members. When does write about winning souls, it only happens in those Epistles that are specifically addressed to other missionary preachers like Timothy.

Of the scant number of proof texts that people use to support the ethic of a universal missionary calling at an individual level, the most common is Matt 5:14-16:

You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house.Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Sounds like a good verse, but look again. Is that what it is really saying? Rather it is saying that it is good in itself for me to thank God when they see the good works of Christians, no strings attached. For instance, if a starving Hindu gets a meal at a Christian soup kitchen, thanks God for the Christians’ charity, and then goes on being a Hindu, then the Christians at the kitchen have done their job.

It is important to understand this, however, in the context of the Doctrine of the Mystical Body. The body has many parts, but each part is still related to the others. If the hand cannot say to the foot “I have no need of thee,” the missionary cannot say to the nun in the convent “I have no need of thee.” Every member in the Church does participate in missionary activity by virtue of prayer, the sacraments, and whole life of grace that fuels the Church’s missionary efforts. People will convert when they meet missionaries, but the cause of their conversion is the mediation of grace that comes from the whole Church, all members involved. The missionaries do the footwork, but those nuns get them the converts.
 
StevieD is off a little bit, but not by much. The correct date is 1899. (It is easy to see how those dates could be confused.) In the persecution prior to the 1890 Manifesto, the LDS Church had a lot of property confiscated by the federal government, and then there was a major recession in the decade following it. This left the Church in ruin and resulted in a number of decisive financial reforms under Lorenzo Snow. One of those reforms was financial incentives for full-tithe paying (which is why so much of the Church’s monies are recycled for the benefit of the membership to this day). In later decades this developed into the requirement of full-tithing for temple worthiness. Another reform was a decrease and eventual elimination of the stipend for bishops and stake presidents, which previously had been taken from 10% of the total tithes in each ward. (That was not a big stipend considering the low rate of tithing prior to Snow’s reforms.)
Thanks for the information, soren. I am going to have to go back and look at the history. I do not, of course, agree with your conclusions, but I do appreciate the info!
 
It is important to understand this, however, in the context of the Doctrine of the Mystical Body. The body has many parts, but each part is still related to the others. If the hand cannot say to the foot “I have no need of thee,” the missionary cannot say to the nun in the convent “I have no need of thee.” Every member in the Church does participate in missionary activity by virtue of prayer, the sacraments, and whole life of grace that fuels the Church’s missionary efforts. People will convert when they meet missionaries, but the cause of their conversion is the mediation of grace that comes from the whole Church, all members involved. The missionaries do the footwork, but those nuns get them the converts.
👍 Excellent post soren1.
 
For a Catholic lay person to have a missionary calling, it is indeed rare right now. We as a Catholic faith are going through tremendous changes right now…and I believe the Holy Spirit is calling every lay person to pull in and to focus just on your immediate situation…I believe that missions will be here soon…we will have enough to deal with with those around us who are finally seeing the truth of the modern world,…and will turn to God…and we must be ready for them.

The mission will be here on our own soil.
“To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.”
  • Confucius (551-479 BC)
 
Before I left the university, I went to a coffee shop run by a Hippie Christian…I was stepping out into the unknown. He was praying with me and believed there would be only one place open for me.

It turned out to be a region in the Catholic world that could be the most spiritually rich at this time. Their laity has been supporting their missionary work for many years. They are Franciscans. And they have a long history, including this country, of involving the laity. Many good things are coming out of this region, and the people have not been tainted by scandals as elsewhere. Heard that from the priest I worked with, even over 30 years ago. They are a most wholesome culture. I asked one through email how they have survived, and she said ‘suffering’.

This region of the world has always been a landing point for invaders and my priest is now a pastor in a diocese that has a long history of bloodshed. On the altar of the cathedral are 800 skulls of lay Italian men who were beheaded for not submitting to Islam over 400 years ago. They will not be forgotten.

I may go to Egypt/Israel next year. I am already asking if we can stop there. I want to see my old friend and other missionary priests now retiring…and I want to go to the Cathedral to pay respect to the Catholic men to ask their prayers from heaven that I gain the strength of faith they had here on earth.

The focus of the Franciscans is primarily to live out the Gospels more deeply, and to live in joy! St. Francis found brethren not only with us, but with all of God’s creatures, and even the elements such as wind and fire, sun and moon, and called Death, ‘Sister’. That is such a deep devotion of the Gospels in Christ’s message of LOVE.

St. Francis said when all actions have failed, ‘to use words’.

But I have been talking with various interdenominational people, and the direction of the Holy Spirit I personally have been given is to follow the Gospels more deeply and to simply express Christ. There is way too much out there right now that is invalidating and making faith look superficial. It is a matter of finding new forms of evangelizing…but the best is always embracing Christ and living out His Word. My associates tell me they are turning to the Lord more and more to depend totally on Him, that our country and the world must go through this process for people to see as they live by sight and not faith…and must experience the consequences.

Thus, even though I would like to return to such work, it is not God’s will for me. I have family. The economy is quickly deterioriating, we need to support each other. The Holy Spirit is bringing people into the Catholic Church in the USA. He is leading them.

There is another post about Muslims throughout the world wanting to come into Christianity because of a number of reasons…Conversions are happening…we have to keep praying and living out our faith…because we are all missionaries.

We who believe in Christ and try to renew our faith every day in Him…and live out the Good News…we are all missionary.
 
You had to have Rebecca find the verse in the Doctrine and Covenants…which meant that you didn’t know about it. This tells me that wherever you got your information, it probably isn’t authoritative.
Rebecca used to be a Mormon, I never have been so have never spent much time poring over the D&C’s. I knew that Bishops had been paid (sorry - provided with recycled LDS income whatever that might mean) - you didn’t! So my source was authoritative. Glad to have taught you something about LDS history.
 
I don’t totally buy this. I think there was a strong missionary zeal in the Early Church. No, I don’t think every Tom, Dick, and Harry was intended to be a missionary. The NT states, as you point out, that we all have vocations. Paul is clear about that. And not everyone is cut out to be a presbyter, episkopos, or diaconos either. But I don’t see any evidence that Paul or any other apostle intended only the bishops and higher-ups to witness and mission to the world. The Great Commission of the Lord is the chief marching orders we have as Christians. To say, ‘well the ecclesiology of the Church is not individualistic so we should all stay home and tend to our own churches. That missionary activity is the work of the clerics,’ I don’t buy it.

I don’t think Protestantism makes good use of the lay people out of some individualistic mentality. I think it’s a healthy thing that they each, lay or pastors, are so driven for Christ and want to share Him. Many of these ‘individualistic’ folks have died or almost died for Christ. I don’t think it’s really the reason.

I am sad to say that I think the Catholic Church has not made good use of the laity. If they are so narrow in their vision as to think lay people have little or no role in the Great Commission, then atheists, agnostics, homosexuals, Protestants, and other folks will continue to make in-roads while Catholic numbers decline.

My wife’s home country, the Philippines, is really giving way to secularism, Protestantism, and even Mormons are all over. There is a group called “Iglesia ni Cristo” in the Philippines that has just taken over in the last 30 years like wild fire!

Catholics can sit on their laurels and let their staunch countries like the Philippines lose their faithful to the Iglesio and Mormons and Protestants and the secular pro-choicers or they can come to the aid of their brothers and sisters there and re-mission to them.

I think much of this country has benefited from foreign priests. Many Catholic priests from India, the Philippines, Mexico, and Africa are ON-FIRE for Christ! The only priests to come to this lack-luster parish here in my town and really HAMMER “abortion is MURDER!” and “gay marriage is sin, my friends!” to the congregation have been Asian and African foreign priests. These people preach it and are on fire. The American Church has been milk-toasted and watered-down into P.C. thinking. We’ve benefited from missionary talk from foreigners, maybe our lay folks here who are driven, conservative, and faithful to the Church need to return the favor and mission to the third world where they’re starting to drift away.

Or here’s an idea—AMERICAN CATHOLIC LAY FOLKS MISSION TO EUROPE where Christianity has been basically dead or dormant or in a coma for decades!!!
It has to do with ecclesiology. Protestantism is on the whole far more individualistic than Catholicism in their view of salvation. As a result, they view things like missionary work that is the duty of the Church as extending to each member individually, so that everyone has a gospel call to personally spread the Word. Mormonism follows Protestantism in this view, which is so widely accepted now that almost no one ever notices that it is unbiblical - not in the sense that the Bible contradicts it explicitly, but it is totally absent from the Bible, and indication point in the opposite direction. In Paul’s epistles, for instance, while Paul himself is out preaching among the unconverted and asking local congregations to pray for his success, he never enjoins them to take the word to others, but is entirely concerned with how they live among themselves. He never upbraids the Corinthians, for example, for passing up opportunities to share their faith with unbelievers. The assumption that Paul takes for granted at every point is that missionary work is his own calling, and his companions’ calling, but is not a specific duty for the other members. When does write about winning souls, it only happens in those Epistles that are specifically addressed to other missionary preachers like Timothy.

Of the scant number of proof texts that people use to support the ethic of a universal missionary calling at an individual level, the most common is Matt 5:14-16:

You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house.Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Sounds like a good verse, but look again. Is that what it is really saying? Rather it is saying that it is good in itself for me to thank God when they see the good works of Christians, no strings attached. For instance, if a starving Hindu gets a meal at a Christian soup kitchen, thanks God for the Christians’ charity, and then goes on being a Hindu, then the Christians at the kitchen have done their job.

It is important to understand this, however, in the context of the Doctrine of the Mystical Body. The body has many parts, but each part is still related to the others. If the hand cannot say to the foot “I have no need of thee,” the missionary cannot say to the nun in the convent “I have no need of thee.” Every member in the Church does participate in missionary activity by virtue of prayer, the sacraments, and whole life of grace that fuels the Church’s missionary efforts. People will convert when they meet missionaries, but the cause of their conversion is the mediation of grace that comes from the whole Church, all members involved. The missionaries do the footwork, but those nuns get them the converts.
 
Rebecca used to be a Mormon, I never have been so have never spent much time poring over the D&C’s. I knew that Bishops had been paid (sorry - provided with recycled LDS income whatever that might mean) - you didn’t! So my source was authoritative. Glad to have taught you something about LDS history.
What I meant by “recycled” is the oft-noted fact that a very large portion of tithe money goes right back to LDS members in the form of services. This practice is the direct descendant of Snow’s reforms, which attempted to may tithe-paying a more realistic possibility for members during hard times, by making them at least partial recipients of their own gifts.
 
I don’t totally buy this. I think there was a strong missionary zeal in the Early Church. No, I don’t think every Tom, Dick, and Harry was intended to be a missionary. The NT states, as you point out, that we all have vocations. Paul is clear about that. And not everyone is cut out to be a presbyter, episkopos, or diaconos either. But I don’t see any evidence that Paul or any other apostle intended only the bishops and higher-ups to witness and mission to the world. The Great Commission of the Lord is the chief marching orders we have as Christians. To say, ‘well the ecclesiology of the Church is not individualistic so we should all stay home and tend to our own churches. That missionary activity is the work of the clerics,’ I don’t buy it.

I don’t think Protestantism makes good use of the lay people out of some individualistic mentality. I think it’s a healthy thing that they each, lay or pastors, are so driven for Christ and want to share Him. Many of these ‘individualistic’ folks have died or almost died for Christ. I don’t think it’s really the reason.

I am sad to say that I think the Catholic Church has not made good use of the laity. If they are so narrow in their vision as to think lay people have little or no role in the Great Commission, then atheists, agnostics, homosexuals, Protestants, and other folks will continue to make in-roads while Catholic numbers decline.

My wife’s home country, the Philippines, is really giving way to secularism, Protestantism, and even Mormons are all over. There is a group called “Iglesia ni Cristo” in the Philippines that has just taken over in the last 30 years like wild fire!

Catholics can sit on their laurels and let their staunch countries like the Philippines lose their faithful to the Iglesio and Mormons and Protestants and the secular pro-choicers or they can come to the aid of their brothers and sisters there and re-mission to them.

I think much of this country has benefited from foreign priests. Many Catholic priests from India, the Philippines, Mexico, and Africa are ON-FIRE for Christ! The only priests to come to this lack-luster parish here in my town and really HAMMER “abortion is MURDER!” and “gay marriage is sin, my friends!” to the congregation have been Asian and African foreign priests. These people preach it and are on fire. The American Church has been milk-toasted and watered-down into P.C. thinking. We’ve benefited from missionary talk from foreigners, maybe our lay folks here who are driven, conservative, and faithful to the Church need to return the favor and mission to the third world where they’re starting to drift away.

Or here’s an idea—AMERICAN CATHOLIC LAY FOLKS MISSION TO EUROPE where Christianity has been basically dead or dormant or in a coma for decades!!!
Let me be clear: I think outreach by laymen is a great thing, the best hope for the Church today, and in fact that is why I encourage it and do it. However, I do think that such witnessing needs to be encouraged within the context of a correct ecclesiology. I think it is wrong to tell people that missionary work or witnessing is a gospel obligation as such, although it is still a very pressing need in our time.
 
I’m in total agreement. I never meant to imply that individual Catholics should go on missions WITHOUT the bishop’s consent or without their parish just one-on-one with their own agenda. NO WAY! I mean 30 or so parishoners who have a priest with them or deacon under the auspices of the bishop with his blessing and a structured plan to witness and bring Christ to all.
Let me be clear: I think outreach by laymen is a great thing, the best hope for the Church today, and in fact that is why I encourage it and do it. However, I do think that such witnessing needs to be encouraged within the context of a correct ecclesiology. I think it is wrong to tell people that missionary work or witnessing is a gospel obligation as such, although it is still a very pressing need in our time.
 
I’m in total agreement. I never meant to imply that individual Catholics should go on missions WITHOUT the bishop’s consent or without their parish just one-on-one with their own agenda. NO WAY! I mean 30 or so parishoners who have a priest with them or deacon under the auspices of the bishop with his blessing and a structured plan to witness and bring Christ to all.
That is just what I meant when I said “correct ecclesiology.”
 
Guerney,

The religious orders and their seculars and associates are doing so in their American parishes. The Franciscans have missions in Mexico; the Marists have missions in the South Pacific to name a few. But the priests have to know you, and be sure you are evangelizing in the right spirit and teaching.

Catholics are communal, and we are all under obedience. It is a charism and calling of the Holy Spirit to do this work with the clergy. Some people prepare for several years. I almost went with the Maryknollers back then. My parish was the only, because of the leadership of the pastor, who sponsored and supported me, but it was mainly the priests I had worked with and the office at my Archdiocese…I was the only one ‘out there’ and they were very worried for me with all the politics.

Finally, when you are sent through the Church, your life is not only for the people you serve, but for the people back home. I made it a point to write monthly letters to various sponsors as well as the Archdiocese. I had to account for how the contributions were spent…it was God’s money for the poor and with the politics, we had to be so careful as to what to do for them. We worked with the Italians and bought a tractor. I ordered a microscope to teach hygiene that was stolen at the port, and the rest of the funds were to build housing in this coastal city, which Thank God, is still intact.

But to serve in missionary work for the Church is no fly by night. There have been groups going to Mexico and they have the same communication and supervision. This is throughout the world. So to go into this, one must be prepared and know that you have to be totally transparent, it being public work. So you have to attend to alot of responsibility on the peripheral level as well.

Anyway, the world is closing in…so much to do here…so much…
 
There’s enough people who have poor catechesis and a total ignorance of their faith in all churches here anyway. This place needs mission! LOL…

And with all the illegal immigration coming into this country, it’s being turned into a third world of sorts anyway so going outside your house is getting to be like traveling to Honduras anyway! 😛 I’m a Californian in the Central Valley. I hear more Spanish than my own language around here half the time. I get to go to Mexico for free! :p:D
Guerney,

The religious orders and their seculars and associates are doing so in their American parishes. The Franciscans have missions in Mexico; the Marists have missions in the South Pacific to name a few. But the priests have to know you, and be sure you are evangelizing in the right spirit and teaching.

Catholics are communal, and we are all under obedience. It is a charism and calling of the Holy Spirit to do this work with the clergy. Some people prepare for several years. I almost went with the Maryknollers back then. My parish was the only, because of the leadership of the pastor, who sponsored and supported me, but it was mainly the priests I had worked with and the office at my Archdiocese…I was the only one ‘out there’ and they were very worried for me with all the politics.

Finally, when you are sent through the Church, your life is not only for the people you serve, but for the people back home. I made it a point to write monthly letters to various sponsors as well as the Archdiocese. I had to account for how the contributions were spent…it was God’s money for the poor and with the politics, we had to be so careful as to what to do for them. We worked with the Italians and bought a tractor. I ordered a microscope to teach hygiene that was stolen at the port, and the rest of the funds were to build housing in this coastal city, which Thank God, is still intact.

But to serve in missionary work for the Church is no fly by night. There have been groups going to Mexico and they have the same communication and supervision. This is throughout the world. So to go into this, one must be prepared and know that you have to be totally transparent, it being public work. So you have to attend to alot of responsibility on the peripheral level as well.

Anyway, the world is closing in…so much to do here…so much…
 
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