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What are the differences? As a side question, is Lifeteen Charismatic?
Scratch that. That forum deals with with why the Charismatic Movement is okay.I just realized that this thread could be included in this thread.
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Mods, if you would like to add this thread to that thread, feel free to do so.
Charismatic is supposed to be based around the Holy Spirt and a lot of the charisms that occur during their meetings. It really becomes a question of “do you think they are speaking in tongues or not.” A lot of people don’t believe that it is real for different reasons making a lot of threads on this subject on the forums (If you’d like a more in depth reason why I don’t believe in it send me a pm).This is way off topic, but could anybody who was is this thread or answered it please explain to me what you are talking about. I don’t mean that in a bad way, but when I read a lot of posts on this sight I have no idea what is being said, and how do I learn about it. Please help, and I know the rules say not to ask a question in someone’s thread, but I really want to know a lot more about Catholisism
Do Charismatic Catholics encourage holding hands during the Pater Noster?Charismatic is supposed to be based around the Holy Spirt and a lot of the charisms that occur during their meetings. It really becomes a question of “do you think they are speaking in tongues or not.” A lot of people don’t believe that it is real for different reasons making a lot of threads on this subject on the forums (If you’d like a more in depth reason why I don’t believe in it send me a pm).
Traditional Catholics are Catholics that have a very high respect for the mass and its traditions and don’t like it when people disrespect the mass or alter it. They also tend to prefer the Latin Rite of the mass.
I thought so. I just wanted to make sure. I remember, in one Lifeteen day, after I underwent my conversion from Charismatic Catholic to Traditional Catholic without even knowing it, the Youth Minister asked us to hold hands during prayer. In my head, I was like “dang it!”Yes. Lifeteen is Charasmatic. I know that through experence. I have yet to hear of a lifeteen TLM (lol).
Note that, that dosent make it (Lifeteen) bad, however I would recomend a more traditional formation of faith for young people.
God Bless and Ave Maria!
Yes, it’s a very watered down version of the charismatic that is very focused on emotions and holding hands and things of that sort. I think that a lot of things of that sort are ok until you get into the charisms, or when you focus mainly on emotions and feelings.Do Charismatic Catholics encourage holding hands during the Pater Noster?
Do charismatic liturgies tend to have rock music?I don’t think that Lifeteen is charismatic. Charismatic Catholics are more about speaking in tongues, etc.
The main difference between charismatic and traditional I guess would be style of liturgy. But someone could be charismatic and traditional: as in they believe in the charismatic gifts, but attend the TLM.
If they do, they aren’t celebrating Mass in a liturgically correct way. That would be an abuse and pretty much foreign to Catholicism.Do charismatic liturgies tend to have rock music?
Yes, I agree. There are a couple of charismatic enthusiasts that are literally indefatigable. The last couple of threads ran to over 600 posts (I did not think that was even possible).“Differences between the Traditional Catholics and Charismatic Catholics”
At Trent :hey_bud: " I’m tellin ya bud, shut up. Don’t dare say a word "
Technically, it isn’t an abuse if the diocesan bishop says it’s okay and it’s not too secular.If they do, they aren’t celebrating Mass in a liturgically correct way. That would be an abuse and pretty much foreign to Catholicism.
Technically, even if a Cardinal himself said “It’s okay to play rock music at Mass” it would still be abuse.Technically, it isn’t an abuse if the diocesan bishop says it’s okay and it’s not too secular.
Maybe we should scrap the term “traditional” or “traditionalist,” and all just become “charismatic.” The tongue we speak in just happens to be Latin.![]()
Back of the net, both of you.Technically, even if a Cardinal himself said “It’s okay to play rock music at Mass” it would still be abuse.
Out of respect for individual Protestants I wouldn’t use the language you have - using the word protestant as a pejorative is perhaps more harmful than anything. I don’t like it when a protestant uses ‘Catholic’ or ‘Roman’ in a pejorative sense so out of respect for the person (and not necessarily his heretical beliefs) I woudn’t use that language. However, I do agree with what you say otherwise and I get the point you are trying to make.Fortunately or unfortunately, I am a little bolder and I say plainly that it’s a load of old protestantised nonsense. It may be that it takes some people indirectly and eventually to God, but it is a lesser of two evils and doesn’t deserve to be related to Catholicism…
Rock music isn’t necessarily secular. It depends on the culture. There could be a culture where Rock is sacred and Latin Chants are secular. Now, if you’re talking about American culture, then I agree with you. I think that rock music shouldn’t be used during mass.Out of respect for individual Protestants I wouldn’t use the language you have - using the word protestant as a pejorative is perhaps more harmful than anything. I don’t like it when a protestant uses ‘Catholic’ or ‘Roman’ in a pejorative sense so out of respect for the person (and not necessarily his heretical beliefs) I woudn’t use that language. However, I do agree with what you say otherwise and I get the point you are trying to make.
I had to laugh when the poster said (paraphrased) “rock is okay at Mass as long as it isn’t too secular”. Riiiiight-o. So, guitars, drums and rock melodies… not too secular?
How about we give God the best, the holiest? How about we elevate our minds instead of trying to desperately have something to tap our feet at because we’re too spiritually lazy to recognize what is going on at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.