Different spiritualities?

[guanophore]

Go back to post 35. I talk to you yesterday and I said…

“I’m not saying your Mass is invalid, the Church as far as I know has never said that…”

I defended the Tridentine form, when I saw it under attack…when Kirk said it could be suppressed and the Church would still be assured of Christ’s promise… Baloney!

I will cordially agree to disagree with you, Uxor. I think, if all the West was killed by a meteor or a nuclear holocaust, and the only liturgies left were those of St.Basil and St. Chrysostom, that Christ’s promise would still be alive.

 

[Genesis315]

I don’t understand your question that there was a time it didn’t exist?

The substance of the Mass has existed since Christ instituted it. But, the Tridentine form has not always been in existence. The Roman rite developed over time. The liturgy used in Rome described by St. Justin Martyr was radically different than what emerged by the fifth century. Here is a good article. Scroll down and read subsection B:

newadvent.org/cathen/09790b.htm

 

[Uxor]

Uxor, I never attacked the Tridentine Mass/Missal. I do not advocate it’s suppression (and I don’t even know of anyone who does!), indeed, I’ve most often in the past supported what the old Holy Father wanted, a generous application of the Indult. But I will say this: what I said yesterday, I meant. Hypothetically, SHOULD the Tridentine form ever be lawfully suppressed by a future pope (who holds that legitimate authority, as Saint Pius V held it and suppressed all liturgies under 200 years old at the time of Trent), then the Church can be CERTAIN that Christ will still not fail in His promise (He can’t). The Eucharist would still continue in whatever form the Mass takes at that time, provided that the essential form is retained (and the Church cannot change that) and the gates of Hell would not prevail.

This is where it becomes NOT about which form the Mass takes, but about the authority of the Church, given it by Christ.

Your words—>You’re grievously, grievously in error. The Tridentine Mass could be suppressed tomorrow and the Church would still be assured of Christ’s promise.

I didn’t take that as Hypothetically.

Now we are back to square one…again I say that will never happen and because of Christ’s words. You disagree, I know your position, so I don’t see any need for further discussion on this.

 

[Jean_Anthony]

This thread is closed. Thank you to all who participated.