Dilemma with a transgender patient

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Anorexia/transgender are both inabilities to accept a physical reality.

Why do something like 80% or more transgenders attempt suicide FOLLOWING “transition” (which is surface level anyway)?

A gambler “feels uncomfortable” not gambling…that’s why they gamble to return to some ersatz sense of joy.

So many dysfunctions are in fact really the same thing: A desire to feel differently about some reality.
 
The reality is they are male or female…organ level, cellular level, hormonal level, genetic level.

But for a long set of reasons…they now self-describe as something different from objective reality.
 
Not interested, its already been done on CAF and well rebutted with the summary I just gave you.
Do Google it.
 
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Define what?
Excessive is excessive.
Its standard moral theology that virtuous behaviour, “order”, is the tranquiill valley between two mountains of excess: too much, too little. These two mountains of excess represent moral “disorder” and irrationality which is at the root of all sinful behaviour or disordered tendancies that arise from glitches in mother nature sometimes (or traumatic upbringing).

So if an abiding constitutional tendancy to believe one has a female brain is to be labelled as a psychotic disorder then we must do so for homosexual tendancies and even excessive heterosexual tenancies too.

But we dont do we?
Which is why there seems to be something amiss with the “psychotic” label being used here.

Its just common sense - unfortunately the uncritical personal bug-bears of some members does often seem to get in the way of calm discussion of these sorts of issues on CAF.
 
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I would refer to the patient by his given name. If anyone objects to that, that’s their problem not yours.
 
Sophie111 said:
So if an abiding constitutional tendancy to believe one has a female brain is to be labelled as a psychotic disorder …
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If one is a man then, yes. God does not make mistakes. If such thinking is not disordered then it is normal. Normalization of this disorder is the goal of some who continue to undermine marriage and threaten religious liberty in our society.

Unjust discrimination in the workplace wrong, but ENDA [Employment Non-Discrimination Act] not the answer
ENDA rejects biological basis of gender, equates sexual orientation with race
ENDA undermines marriage, threatens religious liberty. …

ENDA’s treatment of ‘gender identity would lend the force of law to a tendency to view ‘gender’ as nothing more than a social construct or psychosocial reality that can be chosen at variance from one’s biological sex. Second, ENDA’s treatment of ‘gender identity’ would adversely affect the privacy and as sociational rights of others.
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But this is not a discussion of transgenderism. We are discussing how to care for a dying person. Thankfully, most of us agree that kindness is the best approach.
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I agree and have posted so. But someone flagged my post for moderation. ???
 
I would be surprised if there wasn’t a written policy for hospital employees that covers this situation. Check with your personnel/human resources department. Otherwise, I think you should continue to avoid using pronouns referring to the patient in the patient’s hearing and when necessary use the third-person-plural pronouns, they and their.
Remember, Christians are called to “speak the truth in love” (Ephesians 4:15) and “answer not a fool according to his folly” (Proverbs 26:4)
 
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Here in the south most of the nurses call men and women who are older sweetie or dear. I don’t know where you are, but that might be a solution. And I agree, pray for him.
 
It would be downright uncharitable not to call your patient by the pronoun she prefers. Call the patient any name she requests. Part of the job of a nurse is to give comfort. It’s the job of all humans toward one another.
 
Addressing older people as sweetie or dear is a cultural thing here in the south. I find it endearing and not at all patronizing. My health care providers certainly treat me with respect.
 
Not just older people either. I find it very comforting and not at all patronizing
 
Exactly…they are there to provide health care for the patient…so care for the health of the patient.

Luke 10

6 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

Be the Good Samaritan, not the Priest nor the Levite…but the one who cared.

Just my two cents
 
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I call chiropractors “doctor” despite believing that their entire field is scientifically dubious. I call female clergy of other denominations “mother/reverend/pastor” or whatever else she tells me is her title despite my belief that it is ontologically impossible to ordain women. I refer to gay spouses as spouses despite the fact that I don’t believe in the validity of their marriages. I also refer to known second/third/fourth (heterosexual) spouses of divorcees as their spouses. None of this is to indicate support or approval of somebody’s personal life. It’s just recognition that it is indeed their life and a personal matter. It’s just a rudimentary amount of respect I could give someone.
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This is not only the most charitable, but the most sensible position to take.
 
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KyPerson said:
Here in the south most of the nurses call men and women who are older sweetie or dear. I don’t know where you are, but that might be a solution. And I agree, pray for him.
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Or you could just say “you”. Adding “sweetie” doesn’t change anything, ie “Are you in pain, sweetie?” Most people don’t talk to another person using third person pronouns. You normally wouldn’t say to a patient, “How is he feeling?” And if a nurse is talking to someone else and wants to avoid pronouns, they could refer to the person in question as “the patient”, ie “the patient has a fever”.
 
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KyPerson said:
Addressing older people as sweetie or dear is a cultural thing here in the south. I find it endearing and not at all patronizing. My health care providers certainly treat me with respect.
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I think it is cultural. Someone was telling me about some other place, maybe Baltimore, where they call everyone “hun”. Or there’s always “y’all”.
 
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