I don’t see why that would not be possible; but the priest would have to be released by his bishop and accepted by the FSSP.I know that it’s possible for a priest with the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter to request incardination in a diocese as a diocesan priest, but does anyone know if the converse is possible? That is, is it possible for a diocesan priest to join the F.S.S.P.?
Thanks for your answers.
Just as with a religious order. Religious orders and communities can do formation of their own outside of the seminary which is why many use theologates rather than seminaries for their students.No, the FSSP is not a religious order; they are a society of apostolic life. And the FSP would not send a recently received priest back to the seminary, which is where the formation primarily occurs.
As the FSSP are a community of secular priests there would be no further formation required other than the formation about the community. They would need to make a unique formation program for each individual comming in.Yes, but as there are no houses of FSSP brothers, and there are no formation communities, to speak of, outside of seminary settings–just one or two priests living by themselves anywhere there is an FSSP parish or chapel, there is little opportunity for formation, certainly not in the way that the FSSP prefers.That is why they prefer to limit their receptions of priests from other formations to a handful.
One of the priests from my diocese spent two years with the FSSP’s parish in Scranton, Pennsylvania, but he is now back in his home diocese. He is very traditional, anyway-but I’m sure he would have been more ‘at home’ with like-minded priests and laity like the FSSPs and the congregations they served than with among the more liberal priests and laity of his original diocese. I think he was probably asked to return by the Bishop, since we are getting short priest numbers-wise.There are several FSSP priests who were previously diocesan priests, so it is possible. The FSSP itself says that it will review on a case-by-case basis. However, the FSSP also states its categorical preference as training its own priests, so a diocesan priest joining the FSSP is the exception, not the norm. As stated, it will also depend on the bishop’s willingness to recommend and release him.
Hmm.I konw of a couple of Carmelites who went to the Trappists (one has returned) and one who went to a group of Hermits (but he has also returned).
There is a very good and traditional diocesan priest in our diocese. He has been supportive of the FSSP here and in fact the FSSP used to go to another part of the diocese once a week for Sunday Mass but has since stopped in favor of that priest who know is a parish pastor in the same area. The diocesan priest now celebrates the EF on Sundays on top of the two OF Masses he celebratesOne of the priests from my diocese spent two years with the FSSP’s parish in Scranton, Pennsylvania, but he is now back in his home diocese. He is very traditional, anyway-but I’m sure he would have been more ‘at home’ with like-minded priests and laity like the FSSPs and the congregations they served than with among the more liberal priests and laity of his original diocese. I think he was probably asked to return by the Bishop, since we are getting short priest numbers-wise.
When the FSSPs used to come up here twice a month to say the EF Mass, I remember that one of them had been a diocesan priest; which one he was from, I don’t know. But he was very nice, as were all of them who came. We miss them very much! Wish they could come back!
We have Carmelite Hermits that are more strict than the average Carmelite.Hmm.
I am probably wandering a bit off topic, but I was under the recent impression that the Carmalites might be more strict than the Trappists. Although I am not sure of the exact ties to the Carmalites (they don’t use the abbreviation, apparently) there is a group who call themselves Carmalites forming in Wyoming, and their description of their life seems at least as, if not more strict than the Trappists I am familiar with.
Hmm. They seem to consider themselves to be following the Carmelite charism. Anyway, their coffee is good.We have Carmelite Hermits that are more strict than the average Carmelite.
The group in Wyoming have no afflilation with either the Order of Carmel or the Discalced Carmelites. They are a public association of the faithful under the local bishop.
Anyone can follow a Charism without being a part of the actual Order.Hmm. They seem to consider themselves to be following the Carmelite charism. Anyway, their coffee is good.
Thanks. There is always more to learn about the Church!Anyone can follow a Charism without being a part of the actual Order.
They are not a religious order, they are a religious community, they are under the local bishop, they are not of pontifical right as the O.Carm. and O.C.D. are. That being said they are a bit more monastic than the Carmelite Tradition is.
There is a group of Hermits in Lake Elmo, MN, who are affiliated with the O.Carm., they seem to follow the Hermit idea of the Rule of St Albert by meeting for Mass and Meals as the Rule spells out.
Hermits of the Blessed Virgin Mary
There would indeed be further formation, as the nature of the traditional rituals, spirituality, practice and approach of the FSSP and ICRSS are significantly different from what is found in other communities. That is why the FSSP prefers to form their own from the outset. Not sure why you wish to argue this, as that is their practice and stated reasoning.As the FSSP are a community of secular priests there would be no further formation required other than the formation about the community. They would need to make a unique formation program for each individual comming in.
Yes, in fact he did even before he went to Pennsylvania. Once or twice a month, after his Sunday Masses at his previous parish, he would come and say the EF Mass for a small group that met in a former convent chapel.There is a very good and traditional diocesan priest in our diocese. He has been supportive of the FSSP here and in fact the FSSP used to go to another part of the diocese once a week for Sunday Mass but has since stopped in favor of that priest who know is a parish pastor in the same area. The diocesan priest now celebrates the EF on Sundays on top of the two OF Masses he celebrates
Didn’t the diocesan priest you speak of do the same thing when he returned to the diocese?
Spirituality, practice and approach are covered under my statement of “the formation about the community”.There would indeed be further formation, as the nature of the traditional rituals, spirituality, practice and approach of the FSSP and ICRSS are significantly different from what is found in other communities. That is why the FSSP prefers to form their own from the outset. Not sure why you wish to argue this, as that is their practice and stated reasoning.