Diocese of orange gets $20 million donation to renovate crystal cathedral

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GARDEN GROVE, Calif. (KABC) – The Diocese of Orange has received a $20 million donation to help revamp the Crystal Cathedral.
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The gift came from a single donor who wants to remain anonymous, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange said on Wednesday.
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It is the largest donation ever received by the Diocese of Orange.
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Diocese of Orange gets $20 million donation to renovate Crystal Cathedral

The Diocese of Orange has received a $20 million donation to help revamp the Crystal Cathedral.
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$20 million. The Crystal Cathedral.

So much for a Church for the poor.
 
kyrieliberame7 said:
$20 million. The Crystal Cathedral.

So much for a Church for the poor.
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What does that have to do with not being the church for the poor? Large cathedrals have large costs, nothing scandalous about. Those mega churches with an evangelical message for the poor have big bills too. I’m not a fan of its design but thats just because I don’t like modernist architecture.
 
Sometimes I just feel some of the grand cathedrals, the “all gold everything” mentality can be a bit much. I love tradition as much of the next guy. Put there is a holiness in simplicity.
 
kyrieliberame7 said:
Sometimes I just feel some of the grand cathedrals, the “all gold everything” mentality can be a bit much. I love tradition as much of the next guy. Put there is a holiness in simplicity.
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Have you seen pictures of the cathedral? Its not traditional or “all gold” in any sense of the word. Its the opposite of traditional architecture.
 
While it may not be traditional, it is strikingly imposing. As a stated above, there is a holiness in simplicity. I am not saying that the Cathedral is “bad”. Just to recall that faith isn’t about how large or creatively designed the building is.
 
Transformer said:
The poor shouldn’t have to suffer through looking at that church either.

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Haha. I just googled to have a look and I am not a fan either. It looks like a space ship to me.

As far as the money spent, I get the sentiment but we have to remember Judas’ comments when Mary was using expensive ointment on Jesus’ feet and His response (I think it’s relevant).
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12 [a]Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Laz′arus was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. 2 There they made him a supper; Martha served, and Laz′arus was one of those at table with him. 3 Mary took a pound of costly ointment of pure nard and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the ointment. 4 But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (he who was to betray him), said, 5 “Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii** and given to the poor?” 6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor but because he was a thief, and as he had the money box he used to take what was put into it. 7 Jesus said, “Let her alone, let her keep it for the day of my burial. 8 The poor you always have with you, but you do not always have me.”
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Elizium23 said:
How many harmonicas does $20 million buy?
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Kazoos are even cheaper - and easier to master too. Liturgical kazoos.😃 But I understand Christ Cathedral already has an impressive pipe organ - the Hazel Wright organ. I’m anticipating hearing that in its new Catholic setting :).
 
Actually this is really good news. I know that makes a more boring post than to direct some criticisms or cautions, but some of you may not know that Christ Cathedral is a sprawling CAMPUS besides the Noah’s Ark shaped “Crystal Cathedral” building itself.

It’s also the new home of the Diocese. PERFECTLY located in the center of Orange County and “freeway close” to all the parishes (unlike the beautiful, but more remote campus at Marywood in the Anaheim Hills).

Christ Cathedral’s campus is beautiful, but needing of repair. It does have a LOT of space to house the diocesan offices, the former St. Callistus parish that was bursting at the seams just a mile down the road (and which serves English, Spanish and Vietnamese speaking worshippers with the largest amount of Sunday masses anywhere in the diocese).

The temporary church in the “arboretum” section of the campus is nice … though it is a temporary church with seats, not pews, and no kneelers yet.

In a way I was hoping they’d just use the old CATHEDRAL part of things as a sort of amphitheater (as it sometimes was) for spectacular diocese-wide events (graduations, movies, speakers etc.).

But the plans for renovation are interesting. I would like the tabernacle to be high, central and honored … but at least the plans are to have it in the general direction of the altar to minimize confusion.

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Elizium23 said:
The $20 million has to go somewhere, you know.
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Should pay for an organist and maybe even several musicians for a year or two, provide for their retirement and health care too. (That’s what they were asking for on another thread.)

Those bake sale people who were working like crazy to raise cash can rest now.
 
kyrieliberame7 said:
$20 million. The Crystal Cathedral.

So much for a Church for the poor.
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Do you mean that the poor will not be allowed into the Cathedral to worship?

Or that the poor will not be allowed to work on the Cathedral renovation?

Or perhaps you have inside knowledge of who donated, and can show they have not donated to the poor?

Or is it just that something beautiful cannot give glory to God?
 
kyrieliberame7 said:
$20 million. The Crystal Cathedral.

So much for a Church for the poor.
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Are you going to be 51.2 times more scandalized by the $1.024 billion dollars being spent for the new Viking Stadium, a structure dedicated to the deeply significant and profoundly meaningful activity of watching a couple dozen grown men in tights chasing a pigskin ball up and down a grassy field?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings_Stadium

If that isn’t enough to rattle your chain, what about these…

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_under_construction

Be sure to check out the cost of each (which, likewise, could be of real help for the poor.)

So, you suppose $20 million of private money to honour God is scandalous, but billions in taxpayer money - taken directly from those who can’t afford the expense - endowed on their behalf so idle spectators can sit and watch the highly fulfilling and crucial to human survival pursuit of leather and vinyl balls?

Perspective … perspective… crazy world, ain’t it?
 
Patti_M said:
I believe it is called Christ’s Cathedral now.
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Who gets the check if it actually had been made out to Crystal Cathedral? :hmmm:

I’ll bet the lawyers would be all over that one. Maybe the guy still thinks the Hour of Power is going strong.
 
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