Diocese to sell ALL ITS PARISHES to pay for priest abuse

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I think the Church will become smaller in North Americao, then as things are cleaned-up thoroughly, it will flourish. It will look different after the legal bloodbath, yet it will be as strong or stronger then ever.
 
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CatholicNerd:
I’ve heard some pretty nasty rumors about the forthcoming trials that our brethren in Spokane will have to face, too. This is bad, bad, bad. I hope that Holy Father Benedict will be able to directly intervene in these matters. Perhaps a short-term fix would be to grant priests bi-Ritual faculties and open new parishes under the auspices of the Eastern eparchies. Just a thought.
Hopefully not because I am a seminarian for the Archdiocies of Seattle and they are sending me to Bishop White Seminary which is run by the diocies of Spokane in the diocies of Spokane…that might not be so fun…
 
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GregoryPalamas:
Lisa,

It isn’t fair for the innocent but neither is it fair that some bishops covered up the sins of the past. You are correct that virtually all of the problems have nothing to do with pedophilia but with homosexuality. No doubt about it. Yet, there still is sexual abuse. Some penalty must be inacted against wayward priests and bishops. In some cases the rewards are way too large, but if it wakes up the laity to be watchful and prayerful and it forces the bishops to be diligent then so be it. No more homosexualist priests. Period.

Dan L
No, there is NO excuse for either the behavior itself or the subsequent covering up of the behavior to the detriment of hundreds of youngsters. OTOH there really was no excuse for racial discrimination in the past. Does that mean everyone who is white should sell all their assets and distribute them to blacks because in the past some whites were prejudiced against some blacks?

Frankly I believe that while the Church obviously blew it bigtime, they are on another track now. The bishops ARE being diligent and I am convinced they are almost going overboard with “no tolerance” policies and the guilty until proven innocent attitude. Wonderful, chaste, holy and faithful priests are also being painted with one brush and that is a real shame.

I think the awards are typical American excess…you know like the millions to the woman with the boiled crotch from spilling coffee. The punishment in no way reflects the crime. Further, while I believe there are many legitimate victims, at this point we have greedy attorneys bottom feeding and trolling for possible victims, filing suits with little or no evidence to be sure they make the deadline. It’s disgusting.

Lisa N
 
Except, Lisa, in this case it’s Canadian excess ;).

Yes, I saw this story in theGlobe and Mail this morning (a Canadian paper). What at tragedy! I wonder what’s going to happen to the parishioners? Will they be able to use some of the premises still on a rental basis? Does anyone know?
I know that the Globe and Mail reported that the bishop has said he hopes that they can raise enough funds to buy back 1/3 of the core properties. Hopefully that will pan out.

I also pray that the laity of the Diocese of St. George’s won’t lose faith because of this scandal!
 
Does anyone have or can find a list of the parishes in the St. George’s Diocese and their addresses?

I really think we should try to help them out up there, both in financial gifts and letters of encouragement, after all it is not the parishioners fault that their bishops and some of their clergy messed up so badly.

And we certainly MUST pray that they do not loose their faith over this.:gopray2:
 
I found the diocese’s website, not sure how long it will remain up though, but here it is rcchurch.com/ . You will find the parish info in the left hand column of this page rcchurch.com/member.htm

Ironic they celebrated there 100th year as a diocese just last year, little that they knew that it would all come to an end this year, at least not in the visible sense. I wonder if they will now incorporate into the neighboring diocese of Grand Falls-Windsor?

What a sad situation, I feel so bad for the good priests and especially the parishioners there…:crying:
 
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Except, Lisa, in this case it’s Canadian excess ;).

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Good point—you are NORTH American right;) ?

Say is there any appeal? In the US we have a long series of appeals to most decisions. It’s really so very sad that the innocent suffer for the guilt of a few.

Lisa N
 
This is the TIME for all FAITHFUL CATHOLICS, to come TOGETHER, for Jesus PROMISED that the GATES of HELL, would NOT PREVAIL.

Yes, there are CONSEQUENSES, for these CRIMES, and the CHURCH is REAPING them.

Jesus has ALWAYS RAISED-UP, those who will FIGHT FOR HIS CHURCH.

It is now time to PRAY and SEARCH our >HEARTS< and to find THE WILL of the LORD, in this TIME of CRISIS.

Is this decision final, about closing ALL DIOCESES’
 
I heard back from the Archdiocese of St. John. Donations to St. George’s diocese can be sent to:

St. George’s Diocese
13 Mount Bernard Avenue
Corner Brook, NL Canada
A2H 6K6


 
Lisa: I don’t know if appeal is still possible in this case, but yes, it is an option in Canada. I think it already has been appealed though, because the articles I’ve read suggested that the final decision was made by the Supreme Court of Canada, as apparently it ruled that the universal Catholic Church couldn’t be held liable, but only the Diocese. (They wanted to sue the entire global Church apparently).
 
I think it’s criminal to force money out of an innocent majority to punish a very small minority. An evil compounding an evil. It all feeds the cult of victimhood, the 20th/21st century version of martyrdom.

I don’t see how closing down the churches of a whole lot of innocent Catholics will bring justice to the people gathering around to collect huge sums of money. I only see more injustice.
 
Lisa N:
Forgive my very UN Christian thoughts regarding these ridiculous settlements, a substantial amount of which will line the pockets of greedy attorneys who can smell a cash cow far from the barn.

It is so sad that an entire diocese will suffer for the actions of a few predators. Kids will not go to good Catholic schools, there will be no place to worship, priests will not have retirement, all for the hideous evil that infiltrated our Church.

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to raise money although our diocese is also in bankruptcy and we may be looking for help as well

Lisa N
I agree with you 100 % Lisa. It seems like so many people out there think the Church has these “deep pockets” and can afford to spend millions and millions of dollars. It’s simply outrageous. I feel for these people who were abused. I can’t imagine how difficult that could have been for them. But to sue a church and diocese for something a tiny number of people of did for millions of dollars? I just can’t see how that could all of the sudden take away those bad memories. Sort of like the death penalty in a way. Too many innocent people who have nothing to do with these cases are getting hurt.
 
This issue is about greed and it is about attacking the Catholic Church to a point of trying to destroy it…
 
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TPJCatholic:
This issue is about greed and it is about attacking the Catholic Church to a point of trying to destroy it…
Clearly it is NOW. I think some of the earlier cases with very egregious behavior on the part of a handful of very deviant priests were justified. Now it’s a bunch of opportunists and greedy attorneys getting on the bandwagon. We’ve seen completely false claims in this diocese (person who said he was molested wasn’t even HERE during the time period) as well as attorneys ‘helping’ people recover repressed memories.

However the millions of dollars neither help the healing process nor do they punish the perpetrators. All of us are suffering for the actions of a handful of evildoers.

Lisa n
 
Lisa,

I agree, there have been a good number of horrible abuse cases…yet money does not heal the abuse, it does not take the it away, and destroying an entire diocese (or even forcing bankruptcy) is not a just response…imo. If God acted that way, there would be no people left on earth.
 
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