perhaps we could ask CA to sell them on the homepage with their books, or have them listed in the EWTN religious catalog, I will certainly TIVO their program that advertises them. If we can make our own rosaries surely somebody will come out with a DIY cilice kit.
:bigyikes: don’t think it’d be a big seller somehow :nope: - besides which, not to be used except under spiritual direction. I don’t think they should ever be available for just anyone to buy.
Naaah, when I was a kid I had bathe our cat a few times - she got goodness-knows-what revolting goop on her that she couldn’t clean off for herself. THAT is the ultimate penance!Wimp.I have flat feet/fallen arches. I need Z-Coil shoes ($250) and prescription orthotics ($500). If I want discomfort, all I need to do is walk around in ordinary shoes or slippers.
But all this has aroused my curiosity, and I would like to try…ONCE…the cilice. As for “discipline”, a heavy shoelace tied with knots would seem to be a cheap alternative.
And, of course, the ULTIMATE penance is still…pilling a cat.
–where can I get me a good hairshirt! Hold your horses! There have been incredibly few mentions of Opus Dei in this thread (in fact only one, I believe).What is the point of this thread? To mock Opus Dei?
Try again. Like it or not, its a Personal prelature of the Church.
And, if you cant find a spiritual director, or the Love for sharing your suffering with Christ then dont do it. Its not for everyone.
No one is judging you, why is your tone so judgmental for those approved by the Church?
From what authority do you speak?
The cilice is actually based on the old hairshirt - if you look at the derivation of the name ‘cilice’ you’ll see that.The cilice and discipline are for amateurs
Of course, one could go even further and be like St. Rose of Lima, who wore a crown of metal spikes covered by flowers so no one would know. :getholy:
I am offended by your post.Believe it or not, about 5 minutes ago I stumbled across this website via…my AOL search engine. AOL? Sweetness and light AOL giving me THIS link…??
cilice.co.uk/
And I was right. Grossly overpriced. Almost as expensive as filling up my car’s gas tankAlthough I would assume that OPUS DEI would get some sort of volume discount.
My “rolling eyes” were meant as a joke about the high price of gas.
Interesting. I did not know that.
Mock Opus Dei? Of course not. Get real, will you. All that most people, including the guy that started this thread, know about discipline and cilice is what they saw in the DI VINCI movie…not a reliable source. Of course Opus Dei is mentioned in this context.What is the point of this thread? To mock Opus Dei?
Try again. Like it or not, its a Personal prelature of the Church.
And, if you cant find a spiritual director, or the Love for sharing your suffering with Christ then dont do it. Its not for everyone.
No one is judging you, why is your tone so judgmental for those approved by the Church?
From what authority do you speak?
Which makes me wonder if anybody is still making those hairshirts. Obviously, cat hair would not be useful in this context.Interesting. I did not know that.
I just looked up cilice in the dictionary and the defintions was–you guessed it–“a hairshirt.”
Yup, anybody claiming to be a penitent needs at least one cat. I am quite happy to have two, and a third may be on the way. (An elderly lady in my apartment complex may have to move into a nursing home soon, leaving behind her cat. I have already agreed to adopt him.)
An EXCELLENT name…wish I had thought of that first.A cat who still has its claws is a living cilice.
Hey, there’s a good name for a cat - Cilice!
Betsy
