One solution would be for ultraconservatives unhappy with the state of the American Catholic Church to leave and form their own church under the jurisdiction of African bishops, as some conservative Episcopalians have done, This might not be the optimal solution, but then at least they wouldn’t have to put up with dissenters!So let me get this straight. You define what is catholicism, you then judge that those not agreeing with you are in sin. Nobody is asking you to leave Sir, I believe it is the other way around. I wonder why God is even needed when some here are prepared to make all the judgements and decide on the penalty. Practice Catholicism as you wish, but Sir, do not attempt to tell me I am sinful and not practicing it as I see it. Such total lack of humility is simply uncalled for. If you are doing as you believe you should what is it to you that I don’t adopt your standards? Read the bible for the answer. Jesus was most clear.
Of course, I found that incredibly bogus and contrived myself also – laughably so.I sincerely doubt this is true. I doubt the your fellow parishoners use contraceptives because they wish to save the world from overpopulation based on future oil shortages. Please.
Exactly right. Some small percentage of them will talk about how heroic they are to contracept – saving the world from their offspring.People contracept because they are inherantly selfish, short on patience, personal finances, lazy, seek convenience in thier lives, are married to non-catholics, etc. etc. etc…
.God will provide other forms of energy when the oil runs out, if the that happens before the 2nd coming. In America alone we haven’t even begun to access the oil we have because of supposed environmental concerns
Dissent against defined teachings doesn’t fit the Church’s definition of orthodoxy either.That’s curious. Our parish has vibrant liturgies (including in Latin), is replete with young people, graced by excellent priests, and supportive of the poor. I call that faithful, even if it doesn’t fit your definition of “orthodoxy.”
Bishop Bruskewitz has excommunicated dissenters in Lincoln, Nebraska – and that has been working quite well so far. For a diocese of only 50,000 Catholics, his seminary has 57 candidates for the priesthood.One solution would be for ultraconservatives unhappy with the state of the American Catholic Church to leave and form their own church under the jurisdiction of African bishops, as some conservative Episcopalians have done, This might not be the optimal solution, but then at least they wouldn’t have to put up with dissenters!
True words and a frightening thing to consider.Stop looking at the picture through the worlds eyes (which is *very *easy to do as it comes naturally) and attempt to see things through Gods eyes. Mortal sin is mortal sin and those who die in a state of mortal sin, if their intent and knowledge is unquestionable, are sealing their fate. Period.
Apparently, you think that the use of contraception will not affect the rate of population growth.I do believe I hear the echo of Jerry Falwell.
It could, if parents had two-child families.Apparently, you think that the use of contraception will not affect the rate of population growth.
If you look at the history of schism of unorthodox Catholics, it is always the dissidents who break their Communion with Rome i.e. Call for action (excommunicated liberal dissident group) and SSPX (conservative dissident group whose bishops are excommunicated)One solution would be for ultraconservatives unhappy with the state of the American Catholic Church to leave and form their own church under the jurisdiction of African bishops, as some conservative Episcopalians have done, This might not be the optimal solution, but then at least they wouldn’t have to put up with dissenters!
Yes, exactly. Or one child families.It could, if parents had two-child families.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility_rateNevertheless even France remains below the 2.09 children/woman fertility rate of the USA. Other European governments, fearful of a future pensions crisis, have followed the French example in an attempt to encourage more women to have children.
Except that Jesus (who is God) never said anything about “artificial” contraception.Stop looking at the picture through the worlds eyes (which is *very *easy to do as it comes naturally) and attempt to see things through Gods eyes.
I think we can be fairly sure that you don’t know everything that Jesus has said – either prior to His ascension or since then.Except that Jesus (who is God) never said anything about “artificial” contraception.
Not in our diocese – RCIA programs are packed with people of all ages!Unfortunately for you, liberal dissidents are now leaving the Church in droves and this is not my opinion alone but a growing number of peoplea
That would work for a while, until we reached solar sustainability, Keeping a sustainable balance is a delicate demographic issue.In several countries in Europe, the birth rate is below “replacement level”. This is causing a number of problems with an aging population. The birth rate in Italy, for example, is 1.5 children per family (thanks to contraception and birth control).
Except that God said ‘be fruitful and multiply’ - it was his very first command to humankind, so obviously very important. To the extent of requiring widows to marry their brothers-in-law if they’d not had children with the first husband so that they would not remain widows and unfruitful!Except that Jesus (who is God) never said anything about “artificial” contraception.
prayAnd in order to feed, clothe, house, water, and transport 6.7 billion people into the indefinite future – plus the additional 80 million being added every year – what is your plan for after our finite supply of fossil fuels is exhausted?
Reggie,True words and a frightening thing to consider.
Dissenters claim that they will not suffer such – since their rejection of the teachings of the Church do not carry such serious consequences.
The Church teaches otherwise.
Do you define as “excellent priest” as one who does not uphold the doctrines of the faith? Do you excellent priests preach the truth about these sesitive issues?drpmijhess boasts:
Our parish has vibrant liturgies (including in Latin), is replete with young people, graced by excellent priests, and supportive of the poor. I call that faithful, even if it doesn’t fit your definition of “orthodoxy.”
Gospel citation, please.I think we can be fairly sure that you don’t know everything that Jesus has said – either prior to His ascension or since then.
What is occurring in your diocese does not reflect the general trend in what is occuring in all dioceses. Many Catholics who don’t practice their faith are simply ceasing to define themselves as Catholic. I’ve already read statistics posted on this site confirming this.Not in our diocese – RCIA programs are packed with people of all ages!
Evidence that you deny the infallibility of the teaching of the Magisterium- a central theme in the faith of a **practicing **CatholicExcept that Jesus (who is God) never said anything about “artificial” contraception.
“Liberal” and “conservative” are terms irrelevant to the Latin Mass.Since when is the latin mass considered liberal? .