Divine Mercy Sunday and the Extraordinary Form

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It’s been a while since I’ve been able to get to an Extraordinary Form Mass.
(It’s an awfully long bike ride!!!)
Here’s something I’ve wondered about occasionally:

The EF Mass follows the 1962 Missal (right?).
The Sunday after Easter is Low Sunday in my “Marian Missal”.
On April 30, 2000, it was designated as Divine Mercy Sunday by Pope John Paul II.

So, do parishes that celebrate the EF exclusively ignore this new feast, or is there some accommodation by some/all parishes?
  • Reg
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The_Reginator said:
It’s been a while since I’ve been able to get to an Extraordinary Form Mass.
(It’s an awfully long bike ride!!!)
Here’s something I’ve wondered about occasionally:

The EF Mass follows the 1962 Missal (right?).
The Sunday after Easter is Low Sunday in my “Marian Missal”.
On April 30, 2000, it was designated as Divine Mercy Sunday by Pope John Paul II.

So, do parishes that celebrate the EF exclusively ignore this new feast, or is there some accommodation by some/all parishes?
  • Reg
    (Happy Easter!)
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There are no changes at all to the texts of either Low Sunday in the 1962 Missal or the Second Sunday of Easter for the 2002 Third Edition of the 1970 Missal. Neither should there be, as the Octave of Easter trumps everything else. Divine Mercy Sunday is expressed through devotional activities, not changes to the Liturgy.

My Canadian Ordo (Ordinary Form) is express: “Divine Mercy Sunday: … No changes to the texts or the readings for the day are required or permitted.”
 
The_Reginator said:
It’s been a while since I’ve been able to get to an Extraordinary Form Mass.
(It’s an awfully long bike ride!!!)
Here’s something I’ve wondered about occasionally:

The EF Mass follows the 1962 Missal (right?).
The Sunday after Easter is Low Sunday in my “Marian Missal”.
On April 30, 2000, it was designated as Divine Mercy Sunday by Pope John Paul II.

So, do parishes that celebrate the EF exclusively ignore this new feast, or is there some accommodation by some/all parishes?
  • Reg
    (Happy Easter!)
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We in my parish are not EF, but our pastor explained this morning that Low Sunday is a term of the past, since it designated a letdown in emotions, or going from a high at Easter to a low the Sunday after Easter. Now, for eight straight days it is considered Easter, so today is not a low from Easter, but still Easter. He still wished us a happy Easter.
 
The_Reginator said:
It’s been a while since I’ve been able to get to an Extraordinary Form Mass.
(It’s an awfully long bike ride!!!)
Here’s something I’ve wondered about occasionally:

The EF Mass follows the 1962 Missal (right?).
The Sunday after Easter is Low Sunday in my “Marian Missal”.
On April 30, 2000, it was designated as Divine Mercy Sunday by Pope John Paul II.

So, do parishes that celebrate the EF exclusively ignore this new feast, or is there some accommodation by some/all parishes?
  • Reg
    (Happy Easter!)
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The above answers are correct – the liturgy used is that of 1962, but it would certainly be in keeping with the spirit of continuity to preach on Divine Mercy if the priest cares to – though I thought I’d point out that “Low Sunday” is just an informal name. The proper name according to the 1962 Missale is “Dominica in Albis,” which can be rendered into English as “White Sunday.”
 
The_Reginator said:
It’s been a while since I’ve been able to get to an Extraordinary Form Mass.
(It’s an awfully long bike ride!!!)
Here’s something I’ve wondered about occasionally:

The EF Mass follows the 1962 Missal (right?).
The Sunday after Easter is Low Sunday in my “Marian Missal”.
On April 30, 2000, it was designated as Divine Mercy Sunday by Pope John Paul II.

So, do parishes that celebrate the EF exclusively ignore this new feast, or is there some accommodation by some/all parishes?
  • Reg
    (Happy Easter!)
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When I went to Mass in the EF this morning it was the Mass of Low Sunday but the priest gave out handouts on Divine Mercy before Mass, preached on Divine Mercy, and at the end of the Leonine Prayers, invoked Divine Mercy and added “Blessed John Paul the Second, Pray for us.”
 
There was no change to the mass this morning.

During announcements, the Pastor mentioned there would be praying of the Divine Mercy chaplet at 3 PM.
 
There are no changes in the Mass, neither in the EF, or the Novus Ordo… both Masses remain the same.

The difference for Divine Mercy Sunday is that they might do the Chaplet at 3, have Adoration, Confessions, veneration of the Image, and perhaps the priest would do a homily on Divine Mercy…

I was not able to make it to Latin Mass today, but I know in the bulletin it said Divine Mercy Sunday, and there is also a Divine Mercy image in the church, - so they might have done something for it 🙂

the devotion was actually given to St Faustina pre-VII, so it can be traditional as well (though sedevacantists might not celebrate it, only the FSSP and others in communion with the Church).

God bless
 
I don’t believe that the liturgy changes for DM sunday. It’s supposed to be a devotional prayer service with the chaplet recited at 3pm, the hour of mercy.
 
The mass follows the missal in both forms, EF and OF. What the decree of 2000 said was that the Sunday of Divine Mercy must be observed. It cannot be trumped by any other holy day that may come along on the same Sunday. For example, this year, it fell on one of the feasts of St. Joseph. By right, the Josephite Order would have had the privilege of celebrating the votive mass of St. Joseph, because he’s their patron. But this is not possible due to the decree of the year 2000. Therefore, they have to move the Mass for St. Joseph. That’s what the decree of Pope John Paul in 2000 means. If you read the readings and prayers for this Sunday, they fit the theme of mercy. It was easy to preach to it in either form. The same with all the editions of the breviary. All of them extol the mercy of God today, Monastic Diurnal, Benedictine, Franciscan, Carmelite, Carthusian, Dominican, Jesuit, Basilian and Roman.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
JReducation said:
The mass follows the missal in both forms, EF and OF. What the decree of 2000 said was that the Sunday of Divine Mercy must be observed. It cannot be trumped by any other holy day that may come along on the same Sunday. For example, this year, it fell on one of the feasts of St. Joseph. By right, the Josephite Order would have had the privilege of celebrating the votive mass of St. Joseph, because he’s their patron. But this is not possible due to the decree of the year 2000. Therefore, they have to move the Mass for St. Joseph. That’s what the decree of Pope John Paul in 2000 means. If you read the readings and prayers for this Sunday, they fit the theme of mercy. It was easy to preach to it in either form. The same with all the editions of the breviary. All of them extol the mercy of God today, Monastic Diurnal, Benedictine, Franciscan, Carmelite, Carthusian, Dominican, Jesuit, Basilian and Roman.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
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But is it not the case that there are NO liturgical changes for Divine Mercy? The Josephite Order would not have been able to celebrate their Votive Mass this year but because of Divine Mercy, but because of the Sunday in the Octave of Easter?
 
porthos11 said:
But is it not the case that there are NO liturgical changes for Divine Mercy?
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The missal has not been touched. Everything would be the same. Only the sermon changes and you add the special devotions during the day.
The Josephite Order would not have been able to celebrate their Votive Mass this year but because of Divine Mercy, but because of the Sunday in the Octave of Easter?
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Religious orders of men have the right to celebrate the masses of their founders or patrons, if said feasts are solemnities, as long as they do not interfere with the solemnity of the Universal Church. In this case, this is the mass of the Second Sunday of Easter or the Sunday in the Octave of Easter. It’s considered an ordinary mass for the Easter Season. The solemnity of the order takes precedense. Parishioners are obliged to observe that solemnity.

For example, our big Solemnity is October 4, St. Francis. Every couple of years it falls on Sunday. It trumps the Sunday. Parishioners at all Franciscan run parishes have to celebrate the Solemnnity of St. Francis, not just the Franciscans.

In other words, you cannot have two masses, one for the religious and one for the lay faithful. They lay faithful can choose to attend mass at another parish. But if they stay, they will hear the readings and prayers for that solemnity.

What is usually done, to avoid not messing too much with the missal, is to keep the readings from the day and change the collects and propers. This goes for the EF and OF. The calendar of the religious community takes precedence, unless the pope does what Pope John Paul did, to declare that no other solemnity or First class feast could be celebrated that day. In that case, you move your holy day to another day.

In the Latin Rite the changes are so subtle that most people don’t even notice, unless it’s during the week. Then you would get a mass with the Gloria and three readings and trumpets blasting etc.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Speaking only of the modern Roman Rite, if a religious order had a solemnity that happened to fall on the Sunday after Easter, it would never be celebrated on that day, but transferred, because the Second Sunday of Easter trumps local solemnities.

The comparison to St. Francis (Oct. 4) is apples and oranges, because Francis would clash with a Sunday of the Year, which yields to any and all solemnities, local or universal.

The Sunday after Easter is too high ranking to yield to anything. And that was true before, during, and after, the decree of 2000. It has nothing to do with the Divine Mercy, and everything to do with the Octave Day of Easter.
 
AlexV said:
Speaking only of the modern Roman Rite, if a religious order had a solemnity that happened to fall on the Sunday after Easter, it would never be celebrated on that day, but transferred, because the Second Sunday of Easter trumps local solemnities.

The comparison to St. Francis (Oct. 4) is apples and oranges, because Francis would clash with a Sunday of the Year, which yields to any and all solemnities, local or universal.

The Sunday after Easter is too high ranking to yield to anything. And that was true before, during, and after, the decree of 2000. It has nothing to do with the Divine Mercy, and everything to do with the Octave Day of Easter.
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I believe the same is true in the EF. In the MR of 1962, Easter Sunday is classified as I classis cum octava I classis and Low Sunday (Dominica in Albis, in octava Paschae) is indeed also classified as I classis.
 
But the major orders of men have certain liturgical privileges granted to them by the Holy See. That is why Pope John Paul said what he said about Mercy Sunday, so that none of the existing indults and privileges could trump Mercy Sunday.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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