Divorce - Annulment - Remarriage

[formercatholic]

By the way, 25 years ago today, my wife and I took our vows at The Church of the Holy Innocents in Pleasantville, New York.

Pray for us all, please.

 

[itsjustdave1988]

The fundamental issue you fail to grasp is that my wife planned this, with the cooperation of individuals in the Church. It was a set up.

If this is so, how is Church doctrine immoral? Look to the doctrine of the Church and its ecclesiastical norms, not as it was unjustly applied, and tell me where it is immoral!! Any ecclesiastical norm, can be applied unjustly and with malice. Yet, if you cannot show where the Catholic doctrine and norms as authentically intended are immoral, then you lack compelling evidence for your sinful rejection of the Church.

Church doctrine teaches that if one plans to committ mortal sin with the intent of going to confession, then this indicates malice, not contrition. One can easily hide this malice from the priest, but you cannot hide it from God. Without contrition, her sacramental absolution is without effect and she is still in a state of mortal sin.

You seem to be blaming Jesus because of the sinfulness of Judas.

 

[Benadam]

formercatholic:

Dave,

The fundamental issue you fail to grasp is that my wife planned this, with the cooperation of individuals in the Church. It was a set up.

The reason it did not work was because she did not anticipate the rotal appeal. Had this case not gone to the Rota she and her lover would be married in the Catholic Church now having commited a perfect crime.

If you understood the basics of moral theology you would understand that you cannot do evil to do good.

I know you will not accept it but to destroy a marriage is evil.

My wife made little attempt to heal our marriage and when she met her future lover the marriage was toast.

One is forbidden to benefit from ones crimes in a legal system that is just. Case in point:

The minor son who pleads for mercy before the judge as an orphan will receive none when the judge understands that he is an orphan because he is on trial for murdering his parents.

Similarly, my wife planned her adultery and her children of this adultery. The Church is in grave sin if it gives her permission to live with her lover, they are real criminals. you cannot punish me to help her children. they indeed must be as protected as possible but if their parents are criminals, as they are in this case, they should be fully punished independent of the effect on the children. the children should be considered after just punishemnt is decided. that is justice, not what you propose. What you propose is more crime.

you have been my thoughts and prayers formercatholic. I pray you come to know that it’s dissent in obedience that bears fruit for the whole Church.