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My parents are getting a divorce, and I would like to give my mother some solidly Catholic books on the subject so she doesn’t get erroneous information and guidance.

Also, does anyone know if Crazy Time by Abigail Trafford is problematic or not? That’s the one she’s currently reading.
 
My parents are getting a divorce, and I would like to give my mother some solidly Catholic books on the subject so she doesn’t get erroneous information and guidance.

Also, does anyone know if Crazy Time by Abigail Trafford is problematic or not? That’s the one she’s currently reading.
Read the reviews on Amazon - the 4th one down from the top of “Most Helpful” is very enlightening. Says the book is written from the leaver’s perspective and not the wronged party, says it encourages divorce (not surprising considering the culture we live in).

She’s not going to get Catholic books off the shelf in a bookstore or on line. Has she been through every possible way NOT to divorce? If not, “Divorce-Busting” by Michelle Weiner-Davis is a good book although not specifically Catholic. She’s anti-divorce because divorce hurts everyone AND society in general.

I know sometimes it can’t be helped. And I am genuinely sorry for your parents.
 
Read the reviews on Amazon - the 4th one down from the top of “Most Helpful” is very enlightening. Says the book is written from the leaver’s perspective and not the wronged party, says it encourages divorce (not surprising considering the culture we live in).

She’s not going to get Catholic books off the shelf in a bookstore or on line. Has she been through every possible way NOT to divorce? If not, “Divorce-Busting” by Michelle Weiner-Davis is a good book although not specifically Catholic. She’s anti-divorce because divorce hurts everyone AND society in general.

I know sometimes it can’t be helped. And I am genuinely sorry for your parents.
She has tried every possible way not to divorce. Also, I’m 22, and I’m the youngest.

I also just read the first pages of “Divorce-Busting” and yeah, this is an extreme case of addiction. So I’m looking for something that can help her get through it without feeding her false information that sounds good but isn’t true and will do more harm than good in the long run.
 
brgregmack,

That’s awfully nice of you to worry about your Mom. Divorce at any age is a shame, but sometimes there is no other way.

I know. I had one that chased skirts.
 
brgregmack,

That’s awfully nice of you to worry about your Mom. Divorce at any age is a shame, but sometimes there is no other way.

I know. I had one that chased skirts.
I know sometimes there’s no other way. Does anyone have any recommendations that would help her through the process?
 
Yes, she needs a good support group and the advice of her priest. You as her son while your intentions are good need to remember that your role is that of her son. You worrying about her and trying to do anything more than support may only succeed in causing her more stress. I would recommend asking her what role she would like you to play in her healing and honoring that. If she wants you to have an active role then by all means do what is reasonable without it taking over your life. I do not know your mother so I can only offer you some observations if I have overstepped I apologize.
 
Your diocese may have programs available for divorced or separated persons, so have a look there. I know of a website with a forum and lots of resources for divorced Catholics: divorcedcatholic.com/ They publish a book titled Divorced. Catholic. Now What? They also have an e-mail newsletter that’s very helpful, and their podcasts are really lovely. They helped me get through a very painful divorce, and still provide emotional support now, two years later.

Praying for your family!
 
She has tried every possible way not to divorce.
How about the Nike philosophy . . . just do it! In this case, just DON’T do it!!!
I’m looking for something that can help her get through it without feeding her false information that sounds good but isn’t true and will do more harm than good in the long run.
If you are concerned about her immortal soul, recommend these books . . .

The Bible–the book of Matthew Chapter 19.

The Catechism–the sections on the sacrament of marriage and the 6th and 9th commandments. Especially:

2384 Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other till death. Divorce does injury to the covenant of salvation, of which sacramental marriage is the sign. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery:

If a husband, separated from his wife, approaches another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery, and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another’s husband to herself.177

2385 Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, to children traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a plague on society.

You have an obligation as a Catholic trying to live a holy life to love your mother. Love isn’t a feeling. If it was then how could I possibly love people who I dislike? No, love is an act of the will. A CHOICE. No matter how much you don’t want to tell your mother that divorce is a mortal sin, that is the most loving thing you can do for her. This is not my opinion . . . it is the commandment of the church.

I will pray for you and your mother and anyone else who she affects by her decision.

May the Holy Spirit be with you always.
 
WOW Razor!

I have to honestly say that my divorce was the best day of my and my son’s life. We no longer lived in fear. Sometimes there are valid reasons to have to make an incredibly hard decision such as getting a divorce and we don’t know the OP’s Mothers reasons for needing to leave her marriage.

Divorce is not always the ruination of children lives. Sometimes it is what allows them to safely sleep at night and to grow up without fear and to finally have a normal life.

I think Joan’s advice is spot on.
 
How about the Nike philosophy . . . just do it! In this case, just DON’T do it!!!

If you are concerned about her immortal soul, recommend these books . . .

The Bible–the book of Matthew Chapter 19.

The Catechism–the sections on the sacrament of marriage and the 6th and 9th commandments. Especially:

2384 Divorce is a grave offense against the natural law. It claims to break the contract, to which the spouses freely consented, to live with each other till death. Divorce does injury to the covenant of salvation, of which sacramental marriage is the sign. Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery:

If a husband, separated from his wife, approaches another woman, he is an adulterer because he makes that woman commit adultery, and the woman who lives with him is an adulteress, because she has drawn another’s husband to herself.177

2385 Divorce is immoral also because it introduces disorder into the family and into society. This disorder brings grave harm to the deserted spouse, to children traumatized by the separation of their parents and often torn between them, and because of its contagious effect which makes it truly a plague on society.

You have an obligation as a Catholic trying to live a holy life to love your mother. Love isn’t a feeling. If it was then how could I possibly love people who I dislike? No, love is an act of the will. A CHOICE. No matter how much you don’t want to tell your mother that divorce is a mortal sin, that is the most loving thing you can do for her. This is not my opinion . . . it is the commandment of the church.

I will pray for you and your mother and anyone else who she affects by her decision.

May the Holy Spirit be with you always.
Both the CCC and the Bible also recognize that there are times when divorce is valid as the marriage is not.
 
sometimes even for the emotional safety it is ok. If the environment is that bad, to separate is sometimes necessary for the other person to wake up, and face who they are.

I have empathy for the OP needing good literature for something like this. Attitudes are all over the map. Some very permissive, some I bet are rational and take the lesser of two evils approach. I am there myself. Looking at it. Getting counselling. Looking at that. I know what the church teaches, but I am not in a valid marriage but there are children.

A good book would be vital.

So if there are any GOOD suggestions, it would be nice to gather the resources and let the OP look them up and see if they are helpful.
 
I have to say I agree totally with Razor and Joanofarc.

You have an obligation as a Catholic trying to live a holy life to love your mother. Love isn’t a feeling. If it was then how could I possibly love people who I dislike? No, love is an act of the will. A CHOICE. LOVE IS A DECISION. No matter how much you don’t want to tell your mother that divorce is a mortal sin, that is the most loving thing you can do for her. This is not my opinion . . . it is the commandment of the church.

read the 6th and 9th commandments,
read what the Catechism of our church says about marriage and Divorce.

too many in our church are quick to support the ripping apart of the marital bond.

families, the clergy, the community need instead to support those in difficult situations to persevere and honor those vows made in holy matrimony.
vows which not only are promised to the spouse but even more to God himself.
it is that persons salvation which is at stake.

You seem like a loving son to be care about your mother so much.

If God has risen Jesus from the dead, then why can we not believe that he can ressurrect nearly “dead” marriages?
 
mommabear,

I would’ve been right with you not all that long ago. This marriage is an extreme case, one with addiction issues, and abuse issues. I still would rather not have them divorce, but this is the consequence of my father’s seeming unwillingness to get help. She still loves him, and that is why she’s doing this. In fact she’s very much open to getting back together with him if he changes.

I’ve also told her, and continue to tell her, that divorce is NEVER a good thing, even when it can’t be avoided. In this case, it is the charitable thing to do, for it ends enabling his behaviours.
 
sometimes it is part of the wakeup call. Sometimes not. I am not sure why so many would rather your mom continue to live with the abuse that comes with an addiction. She needs a place for solace. Home is supposed to be a refuge and your mom has dignity as well.

I am not sure what folks here would suggest she do…just keep living in the situation. That is not honoring the dignity given to her as God’s child.

As you are saying, divorce is never a good thing, but what else does your mom have, to keep her own sanity?

She has probably endured for a lot longer than you really know and finds she just cannot any longer.
 
I have to say I agree totally with Razor and Joanofarc.

You have an obligation as a Catholic trying to live a holy life to love your mother. Love isn’t a feeling. If it was then how could I possibly love people who I dislike? No, love is an act of the will. A CHOICE. LOVE IS A DECISION. No matter how much you don’t want to tell your mother that divorce is a mortal sin, that is the most loving thing you can do for her. This is not my opinion . . . it is the commandment of the church.

read the 6th and 9th commandments,
read what the Catechism of our church says about marriage and Divorce.

too many in our church are quick to support the ripping apart of the marital bond.

families, the clergy, the community need instead to support those in difficult situations to persevere and honor those vows made in holy matrimony.
vows which not only are promised to the spouse but even more to God himself.
it is that persons salvation which is at stake.

You seem like a loving son to be care about your mother so much.

If God has risen Jesus from the dead, then why can we not believe that he can ressurrect nearly “dead” marriages?
Please do not get me wrong. I am not necessarily advocating trying to save THIS marriage if it is past the point of being safe to do so. The only people that should be helping the OP’s mother to make those decisions are the people with the training to do this such as clergy and trained counselors. Too often it is too easy to latch on to hopeful words of some and that hope can be not what God wills for us. It is sometimes when our Will runs counter to the Will of God even when we think we our basing our will on Sacred Scripture that we can get in to trouble. This is why intense spiritual direction during times of crisis is so important. Yes, Christ can do these things for us but only if it is in His plan and He chooses to. Sometimes He has other plans but when we impose our will we do not open ourselves fully to His teachings.
 
mommabear,

I would’ve been right with you not all that long ago. This marriage is an extreme case, one with addiction issues, and abuse issues. I still would rather not have them divorce, but this is the consequence of my father’s seeming unwillingness to get help. She still loves him, and that is why she’s doing this. In fact she’s very much open to getting back together with him if he changes.

I’ve also told her, and continue to tell her, that divorce is NEVER a good thing, even when it can’t be avoided. In this case, it is the charitable thing to do, for it ends enabling his behaviours.
Divorce is an intrinsic evil. Like abortion, it is NEVER okay. If there TRULY is GRAVE abuse or threat of it then separation is allowed by church law. However, permission from your bishop is required as soon as reasonably possible after the separation. In addition, the spouse who chooses to separate must do everything in their power to reconcile if/when the reason for separation no longer exists. This may sound crazy to many folks because our priests do not teach this but this IS church law. It is there to protect marriages from abandoning spouses–those folks that are simply no longer “happy” and “want to move on”. Of course, this usually means someone other than their spouse has paid attention to them and they’ve allowed themselves to become emotionally attached (also known as adultery).

Keep in mind that the church PROMISES that we will have the grace we need in our lives–especially in marriage. The church tells us that suffering out of love for our spouse is sanctifying–ETERNALLY BENEFICIAL. So, staying in a “difficult” marriage is not a bad thing!!!

Our culture tells us “It’s best for the children to divorce if the spouses are unhappy”. POPPYCOCK! It’s best for EVERYONE if the spouses continue to pray for each other, possibly bringing about each other’s [deeper] conversions through the power of the Holy Spirit. In the process, teaching the children what REAL love is–SACRIFICE for others.

If you think the church is “old-fashioned” or “out of touch” consider that Jesus gave the first pope (Peter) the authority to loose and bind and this power has been passed down from the first pope to our current Holy Father. That means the church has the authority to interpret holy scripture–and she was given that authority by God himself. Even on a secular level, if we allow ourselves to say “I know better than 2,000 years of very intelligent and holy men and women”, isn’t that a monstrous case of pride?

I do not know how old you are but maybe you remember Bishop Fulton Sheen. He had a TV show in the 60’s. His talks are based on authentic church teaching back in a time where no man would have gotten away with anything less. You can find his lessons on marriage via Google search. Of course, I encourage you to read the references I gave earlier. There are other parts of the Bible that talk about marriage also. The teaching of the church has not changed and, therefore, it is still God’s law (what is bound on Earth is bound in Heaven and what is loosed on Earth is loosed in Heaven).

I continue to pray that you and your parents open your heart to the truth–NOT what you WANT the truth to be.
 
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