DNC Viewership Disaster: Less Than Half Tune In To Watch Democratic Convention on NBC, ABC and CBS Compared To 2016

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Really???
I might be overreacting, but I’m pretty sure I won’t. It’s not impossible to trace down someone online. I saw a guy do it one time on a website like this. I’m too small fry to interest people like Strzok or Brennan or Clapper or Comey. But one never knows when someone might have more power than one realizes.

I am absolutely persuaded that a Biden administration will use government agencies to go after political enemies, and this time it will be worse than last time. That same bunch has done it before and will undoubtedly do it again. Again, I’m not a big enough enemy for people like Brennan or Comey, but somebody might have some score to settle, and might have some powerful friends. No use taking a chance with Antifa showing up at my door.
 
I’m not going to vote for Biden
No kidding. I don’t recall asking you or anyone else who is a determined Trump supporter to vote for Biden.

Obama abused his power, no doubt. Biden is his own man. Do you have evidence that Biden suggested, ordered or implemented any of the activities you listed? He supported Obama, but that is not the same as having originated and organized these abuses, himself.

It’s also interesting to me, that Obama did not choose Biden as his heir apparent after his term, but Clinton. She was his first choice and the one he felt would best pursue and protect his administration’s policies.

I consider that distance between Obama and Biden small but significant.

And again, Biden has not repeatedly voiced a determination to abolish term limits, a direct threat to the republic like none so far.

Trump does not joke, per himself.
It indicates optimism or pessimism.
For investors. It does not have any necessary correlation to Main Street’s fortunes. The stock market has been up and down this year, at times very high at the same time small businesses are experiencing a massacre.

And again, you don’t have to live in this country to get rich off Wall Street.
It is my expectation that if Biden is elected, he will not govern. His party leaders will. And they’re ruthless people, some of whom were participants in the weaponizing of government agencies. If that group gains power in this election, they will never let it go. They will also use government agencies to punish dissent, including religious beliefs, something they have done before. I’m not leaving the country if Biden is elected, but I doubt I will ever express myself online again.
If, if, if. Has Biden voiced any of this? Has he stated directly, as his opponent has done, repeatedly that he intends to violate the Constitution?

You are dealing in speculation. I am looking at a president who has brought us to a reality of 170,000+ Americans dead, including my friend, a wrecked economy as a result, and promises to dismantle term limits.

“I don’t kid” and “I don’t take responsibility.”

I take the man at his word.
 
Of course he jokes. I have seen him do it many times. This is just silly.
Then take it up with him since he made the claim. Either he doesn’t joke about his promises or he’s selectively lying. Again.

If he joked so much, he would not have the support of his followers. They like him precisely because he does follow through.
 
And they’re ruthless people, some of whom were participants in the weaponizing of government agencies. If that group gains power in this election, they will never let it go. They will also use government agencies to punish dissent, including religious beliefs, something they have done before. I’m not leaving the country if Biden is elected, but I doubt I will ever express myself online again.
As in you think that elections will be suspended and some kind of police state will emerge?
 
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I’m not leaving the country if Biden is elected, but I doubt I will ever express myself online again.
Really???
Either a joke or a promise.
 
Do you have evidence that Biden suggested, ordered or implemented any of the activities you listed? He supported Obama, but that is not the same as having originated and organized these abuses, himself.
Biden’s full role is not presently known, and if he’s elected, will never be known. But he was involved in “unmasking” Flynn for no reason having to do with his office, but which would (8 days before Trump took office) spread suspicion of Flynn throughout the government. Might be more to it than that.

It’s also interesting to me, that Obama did not choose Biden as his heir apparent
Things can change in politics. Besides, Biden won’t be governing anyway. It will probably be some Obama persons.
It does not have any necessary correlation to Main Street’s fortunes.
It certainly affects 401K plans. 32% of Americans have them, a percentage larger than the entire working force. It’s a very big deal for Main Street.
Has Biden voiced any of this?
Biden has not voiced much of anything, and a good part of what he has proclaimed as his policies are either those of Trump or Bernie Sanders. Biden will continue to be the figurehead he is now.
I am looking at a president who has brought us to a reality of 170,000+ Americans dead
He did not cause these deaths and it’s really terrible to say he did. The U.S. has one of the higher incidence and death rates, but it also has the most mobile population and the best detection and recordkeeping.
 
As in you think that elections will be suspended and some kind of police state will emerge?
Oh they won’t suspend elections. Even China doesn’t do that. And it will be selective. Remember Obama facing the Little Sisters with ruinous fines if they didn’t provide abortifacients against conscience? And it was his DOJ that brought the Hosana Tabor case against the Lutherans. As an atheist, that might not seem as big a deal to you as it does to me. But a governing group that will do those things to oppress religious beliefs they don’t agree with will not hesitate to use governmental power to oppress people in other ways if it suits them.
 
I doubt anything like that will happen. Obama was meant to proclaim himself king, and Trump was meant to be a fascist demagogue. The truth is that American politics are never as exciting as these kind of theories predict they will become, and America is already more despotic than they seem to realise.
 
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America is already more despotic than they seem to realise.
I am under no illusions about that, which is why I am persuaded that the election of Biden as figurehead will result in renewed weaponization of the powers of government.
 
When I last looked a few years ago, there were only 25000 Neilsen families. This was listed on their website. Website has been revamped and count is no longer available.

But anyways. Whatever the number, it determines what millions of us watch.
 
Biden’s full role is not presently known, and if he’s elected, will never be known. But he was involved in “unmasking” Flynn for no reason having to do with his office, but which would (8 days before Trump took office) spread suspicion of Flynn throughout the government. Might be more to it than that.
Maybes, and speculation, about Biden’s role in possibly fascist movements within the Obama administration are not going to cut it.

I have a man who sits in the Oval office openly working to undermine the election, desires to delay it, and wants to go for a third term. Who has directly ordered police to go after protestors and uses unmarked mercenaries to illegally detain citizens.

There’s no equivalency. Unless you have evidence of Biden carrying out these kinds of anti-American activities, this is all smoke and mirrors.
Things can change in politics. Besides, Biden won’t be governing anyway. It will probably be some Obama persons.
“Probably?” Speculation doesn’t count as evidence. Biden is on the ticket, and neither he nor anyone else has made statements to support what you are suggesting.
It certainly affects 401K plans. 32% of Americans have them, a percentage larger than the entire working force. It’s a very big deal for Main Street.
And over 40% are jobless. That has far greater impact on Americans both presently and for the future performance of any 401K plans. Wall Street can clean up while food banks are breaking under the demand. The economy is so tenuous, we have the Fed, and both parties willing to throw money at the problem. And a “anti-socialist” president.

But this is all a detraction from the fact that a fantastic return on an investment is useless to the person in prison or dead because he politically dissented.

Thus, my advice to my college age son. If Trump gets re-elected, get out of the States.
 
He did not cause these deaths. The U.S. has one of the higher incidence and death rates, but it also has the most mobile population and the best detection and recordkeeping
Did I say cause? No, and you are deliberately misconstruing my meaning. I said Trump has brought about the reality of the body count. Not because he “caused” their deaths directly. He only completely botched the federal management response.

His shut down of air travel first from China and then weeks later, from Europe was supposed to buy time to organize a critical response. I listened to the live calls he had with governors, not through press snippets, but the entire thing. Each time.

Every call, governors asked for supplies, explained that the feds (FEMA) were diverting testing supplies, and each time he replied, we’re not a supplier, find your own lines.

So, the government wasn’t a supplier, it was just hijacking states’ supplies and then telling the governors, “Not our problem.”

He pissed away valuable time playing this circular game, while undermining the efforts of many doctors and epidemiologists by telling Americans, it’s not that bad, it’ll disappear, hardly anyone will die.

He absolutely created the situation where this virus was not taken seriously, where the feds handicapped multiple state supplies chains, such as when FEMA “diverted” masks and testing assays from my own state, MN, back in March.

He introduced skepticism and called for states like MN to be “liberated” when our governor proved to be not so stupid as Kemp and Abbott and other Trump stooges and kept MN shut down.

He has caused this situation through his lack of scientific comprehension, his self-absorption with his frail ego, and inability to provide clear, consistent guidance.

Because of the way this virus was allowed to spread from a few cases to clusters to widespread outbreaks and epidemic, people I knew and cared about are dead. There’s no excuse for how badly this has been mishandled.
 
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I am absolutely persuaded that a Biden administration will use government agencies to go after political enemies, and this time it will be worse than last time. That same bunch has done it before and will undoubtedly do it again.
The Democratic Party have monitored the web for political opponents on internet forums and social media and sent Antifa after them before?
 
Did I say cause? No, and you are deliberately misconstruing my meaning. I said Trump has brought about the reality of the body count. Not because he “caused” their deaths directly. He only completely botched the federal management response.
A distinction without difference. You are attributing those deaths to Trump.

I heard some of those calls myself, and vehemently disagree with your interpretation.
The Democratic Party have monitored the web for political opponents on internet forums and social media and sent Antifa after them before?
I never said that. But the ingredients are all there:
-A political party willing to spy on its political opponents, even illegally.
-Political operatives with real power to punish who engaged in spying and punishing.
-An oligopoly in internet communications, run by their political allies.

Don’t need much more than that.
 
I never said that. But the ingredients are all there:
-A political party willing to spy on its political opponents, even illegally.
-Political operatives with real power to punish who engaged in spying and punishing.
-An oligopoly in internet communications, run by their political allies.
America is such a bizarre country. You have only two political parties that can possibly be elected, both of which represent a very narrow portion of the “political compass”, and yet your politics is absolutely rife with these kind of insane conspiracy theories. I assume these theories are mostly a product of a frenzied petty bourgeois, terrified of their expropriation and proletarianisation, which manifests in a fear of “big government.”

I assume you support the government crackdown on the recent riots, but your despotism is already there. The federal police using black sites and carrying people away in unmarked vans. Or it’s found in America’s foriegn policy, and the wanton killing of hundreds of civilians through air strikes. Of course you don’t care about those things, you probably support them. What you’re afraid of is “big government” coming to get you, 1984 come to life in the USA, taking away your small business and your freedom to fire guns.
 
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