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PJM
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Do Animals go the heaven?
Let’s discuss this
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Let’s discuss this
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NM505StKate
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Prove there is a heaven through material evidence then prove there are souls then prove that animals have souls and then maybe the question can be asked if animals go to heaven. Myself, they pass on just like we will.
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jackydarapper
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We would not see the souls of our pets in heaven for the simple reason that they do not have immortal souls.
Ref: ewtn.com/expert/answers/pets_in_heaven.htm
You could also see this similar discussion: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=9029215
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Ref: ewtn.com/expert/answers/pets_in_heaven.htm
You could also see this similar discussion: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=9029215
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adamhovey1988
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I am not a proponent of fidoism. I was made in the image and likeness of God my dog was not. Christ Undid what Adam did it would be kind of pointless for animals to go to heaven then, as dogs would not have Original Sin, nor do they have an inclination to sin. if they haven’t got sin they haven’t got a need for Redemption
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Vonsalza
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As not everything you believe in meets the standard of materialism, it’s a little unfair to hold those views yet simultaneously demand that religion be materially proofed.
Love and beauty come to mind as examples.
Like I love my beautiful pooch. Which I vaguely hope will be in Heaven while also thinking she probably won’t.
Sorry Bailey
You’re a good’un.
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Vonsalza
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upvote
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Tim_D
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Tell you what; is there anyone in your life that you love? Parents? Siblings? Spouse? Children? Friends? Prove it through material evidence.
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Marie5890
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AFA the Magisterium of the Catholic Church goes, there has been no declaration.
Yes, there are individual Catholic theologians who have made argument for and against,
But the Church Herself? She has never taken a position as far as I can tell.
Yes, there are individual Catholic theologians who have made argument for and against,
But the Church Herself? She has never taken a position as far as I can tell.
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NM505StKate
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NM505StKate
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I agree that not everything meets a material standard of evidence but with the way many religious people talk the soul is a physical thing, if it is then it should be able to be measured. Also if it is physical and can be measured surely then heaven should be or hell for that matter.As not everything you believe in meets the standard of materialism, it’s a little unfair to hold those views yet simultaneously demand that religion be materially proofed.
Love and beauty come to mind as examples.
Like I love my beautiful pooch. Which I vaguely hope will be in Heaven while also thinking she probably won’t.
Sorry Bailey
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Vonsalza
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Think he was talking about love.Sure they are there for me and support me.
…like how we love our doggos.
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Vonsalza
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Soul not physical.
Like my dog’s soul, if extant and heaven-bound, won’t be physical.
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Tim_D
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One could say the same about God and the saints.Sure they are there for me and support me.
You’re evading the question. You want proof on your own terms but cannot use the same terms to offer proof of the things you cherish.
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Tim_D
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No intelligent religious person is going to say that the soul is “a physical thing.”
You’re grasping at straws.
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tawny
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Oh so true of many pets. There is something to be said about unconditional love.
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pianistclare
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:banghead:
The Church has spoken on this.
This question brings out the WORST in posters.
The Church has spoken on this.
This question brings out the WORST in posters.
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Bookcat
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Such would not be correct, though certainly many a discussion among Christians has taken place and there have been various speculations theologically.
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