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if we are nude in Heaven, the moths would have to change their food source; and that might be their PurgatoryMoths have to go to purgatory because they eat clothes.
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if we are nude in Heaven, the moths would have to change their food source; and that might be their PurgatoryMoths have to go to purgatory because they eat clothes.
That is a very interesting idea. It should worry those who mistreat animals to realize that we humans will be judged for every idle word, even more so on how we have treated (orOne other point I’d like to mention. In Jewish lore (rather than Law), it is said that when G-d passes sentence as to whom will go to Heaven and whom to Hell, our pets will testify regarding how we treated them.
Some people just like being mean. They would look a child in the eye who is weeping over the death of a dear beloved pet and tell them the pet us gone forever and they will never, ever see it again.
I believe our God is more merciful than that. So did st. Francis.
Pets are in heaven, IMO.
I’ve noticed this, and I agree with you fully.Some people just like being mean. They would look a child in the eye who is weeping over the death of a dear beloved pet and tell them the pet us gone forever and they will never, ever see it again.
I believe our God is more merciful than that. So did st. Francis.
Pets are in heaven, IMO.
Off topic, but it would be nice if someone up there did! We’d for sure learn a lot!Neither does anyone who has not actually been there, and the ones who are there aren’t picking up a laptop to post.
But I think the point Zhenia is making is that whether or not animals go to heaven is not an essential doctrine of the Church which will make a difference to a person’s salvation. And insofar as funerals are concerned, so you would prefer to preach to the bereaved that their loved ones may be in Hell rather than giving them some comfort that their loved ones are with G-d? Or say nothing to comfort them? I think there is a time and place for everything, including uttering the truth.Consolation should not be based on a falsehood.
How would you like your Priest preaching something to console you by withholding or misrepresenting the truth?
Many times at funerals I hear claims that our dearly departed beloved is in heaven. God is all loving, etc… Everyone goes to heaven.
That is not the Catholic understanding. What is not taught is God is perfectly just as well as perfectly loving. Hell is real.
We need to know the truth in all things.
Exactly!But I think the point Zhenia is making is that whether or not animals go to heaven is not an essential doctrine of the Church which will make a difference to a person’s salvation. And insofar as funerals are concerned, so you would prefer to preach to the bereaved that their loved ones may be in Hell rather than giving them some comfort that their loved ones are with G-d? Or say nothing to comfort them? I think there is a time and place for everything, including uttering the truth.
That would mean the beatific vision is lacking?This question was raised in the past on this site’s “Ask an Apologist” forum, and the response was, “If we require animals to be happy in Heaven, then God will give us animals.”
It’s in God’s hands, I trust Him. As Hans Urs von Balthasar wrote of the idea of Universalism, we can accept the Church’s teaching, scriptural authority, and God’s authority and wisdom in such matters, and yet hope in charity that animals live on eternally in some fashion; even as we can hope that all men are saved.
I was told that exact same thing (what “Ask An Apologist” said) by a nun many years ago! It comforted me so much I never, ever forgot her telling me that.This question was raised in the past on this site’s “Ask an Apologist” forum, and the response was, “If we require animals to be happy in Heaven, then God will give us animals.”
It’s in God’s hands, I trust Him. As Hans Urs von Balthasar wrote of the idea of Universalism, we can accept the Church’s teaching, scriptural authority, and God’s authority and wisdom in such matters, and yet hope in charity that animals live on eternally in some fashion; even as we can hope that all men are saved.