Do Any Protestants Believe In The Eucharistic Miracles?

[Mystic_Warrior]

Any non-Catholics here believe in these Miracles? If you have and even if you don’t, I’d love to share some true and documented stories of them. I have some wonderful stories, then you decide…

Sure, I believe in them. God still performs miracles today and can do so in many, many ways. Why limit Him?

Peace…

MW

 

[grannymh]

When I see this types of posts I normally never respond for fear of the reply being taken the wrong way or offending.

But am I the only non Catholic who feels very queasy and grossed out and/or freaked out when reading this? I am not kidding btw, I am sincere. I had never even heard of such a thing until seeing it here, earlier this year.

Well, at least it is a learning experience!

Dear Auriel,

My Apology.

I do intend to get rid of this queasy thing by giving the context and purpose of these miracles. I haven’t yet because I need to organize my thoughts so that I can be understood by non Catholics. I need to listen to your vocabulary especially in the way the Last Supper is viewed.

Also, there is a huge variety of Eucharistic miracles. The one at Lanciano, Italy is rare. Probably the real miracle is that modern scientists have been able to examine it.

Normally, when a Sacred Host was involved in a miracle, it was reserved separately from other Hosts. A number of these were destroyed in attacks on churches during revolutionary periods, Some were lost in natural disasters etc. Thus, in many instances, all we have left are the documents or witness reports.

This is my personal observation. All of us need to be strengthened in our own particular Faith. The original purpose of most Eucharistic miracles was to strengthen people’s Faith. Other miracles were extraordinary events which averted a disaster which led to a confidence in Faith.

It is my personal opinion that the Eucharistic miracles can strengthen the Faith of all people, regardless of religion. It is Jesus Christ, Himself, Who calls us to look beyond today’s “god” of science, to understand something far more important than what we can know through our senses or through technology…that is…to understand an eternal God of love with divine power and divine love for us. John 3: 16 & 17.
One of the best things I learned from a Protestant was to include verse 17.

Blessings,
grannymh

 

[grannymh]

Hey Jesse,

Just to echo some other folks, I hope you open your heart and mind toward a willingness to join the Roman Catholic Church. I was Anglican for many years and I really must tell you that if you are looking for the Eucharist, it is in the Catholic Church. The Anglicans had a Calvinistic view of this sublime sacrament for hundreds of years. Read the Book of Common Prayer’s 39 Articles and you’ll see Cranmer’s views on the Host were spiritual and Calvinist, opposed to the real presence teachings of Luther and Catholicism of the day. It wasn’t until hundreds of years later that the Anglican church “went Catholic” and started moving more toward Rome. You’ll see that Anglicanism in the Book of Common Prayer banned reserving the Sacrament in a tabernacle, they would not elevate the Host, would not adore It, etc. Especially after the Oxford Movement it became more en vogue to do those things. I encourage you to read about the history of Anglican ‘apostolic succession’ and you might just find they don’t have the legitimacy as a priestly body to consecrate it. Blessings on your journey!! Hope you land in Rome!!

The best “journey” book, which is full of compassion for the struggles involved, is “Rome Sweet Home” the l993 book of Scott & Kimberly Hahn. I’m a craddle catholic and I reread it often because it is so down to earth. Besides, we Catholics often have struggles of our own…

 

[O.S.Luke]

Any non-Catholics here believe in these Miracles?.

Any time a Eucharist takes place - a miracle is present.

 

[grannymh]

You must remember that Auriel stated that they are non-Catholic. I was raised and still am non-Catholic. The thought never, ever occurred to me that the Eucharist (Lord’s Supper in my neck of the woods) was actually the body and blood of my Lord.

You have to understand where we come from. It’s not that we don’t believe, it’s just strange to think of it this way when you’ve always thought it was symbolic. You seem to be judging their intentions when it was clear (to me) that Auriel was just being honest and didn’t imply cannibalism.

Were you ever non-Catholic? Can you understand where non-Catholics come from on this issue?

By the way, I believe in the Real Presence and it’s still a little difficult to get through my head the mystery of it.

Have some charity.

Peace…

MW

Dear Mystic Warrior,

As a cradle Catholic, I am trying to understand the current views of non-Catholics.
During a high school Catholic Church history class, I fell in love with the Reformers and followed them across the continent. The romance of their courageous adventures captured my imagination. It wasn’t until many years later that I cared about their reasons for separation.

Of and on, as I continue to study the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, I’m beginning to understand what happened back then. But, I am also finding out that the original religions have split a number of times because of differences in beliefs or organization, etc. So it is back to square one – listening to current members of other religions. I hope you continue to post in this thread because I do think that Eucharistic miracles are helpful to all of us who follow Our Lord Jesus.

Blessings,
grannymh

 

[grannymh]

Any time a Eucharist takes place - a miracle is present.

Dear O.S. Luke,

Amen to your comment.

Question: On another thread, there was a reference to the United Methodist Website for information about the Holy Eucharist. Do you know the website address? I’m not familiar with the organization of the Methodists so I don’t know if the reference to the website was to a local church or someplace else.
Maybe you have your own website? Thank you.

Blessings,
grannymh

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

Dear Mystic Warrior,

As a cradle Catholic, I am trying to understand the current views of non-Catholics.
During a high school Catholic Church history class, I fell in love with the Reformers and followed them across the continent. The romance of their courageous adventures captured my imagination. It wasn’t until many years later that I cared about their reasons for separation.

Of and on, as I continue to study the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, I’m beginning to understand what happened back then. But, I am also finding out that the original religions have split a number of times because of differences in beliefs or organization, etc. So it is back to square one – listening to current members of other religions. I hope you continue to post in this thread because I do think that Eucharistic miracles are helpful to all of us who follow Our Lord Jesus.

Blessings,
grannymh

Hello grannymh.

Thank you for the kind reply.

To be honest, you don’t know how many times I wish I was born a Catholic. I would have been baptized an infant, confirmed and would’ve hopefully had proper catechesis. But, such was not the case.

When I began to investigate the Catholic Church I read a lot. I doubted some things. I believed some things. One thing that didn’t bother me was the sacraments. I had no problem with the theological understanding of the Real Presence. I still don’t have that problem.

Now, obviously I’m still not Catholic (long story), but if I were given the opportunity to receive the Eucharist I would be so happy to do so. If I’m being honest, I would say that if and when I do it will be a strange situation. The implications of receiving Jesus body, blood, soul and divinity are enormous.

Part of my mind sees it as strange to eat the flesh and drink the blood of an individual, divine or not. I mean, if someone were to tell you that they eat the flesh and drink the blood of an individual (let’s say in some pagan cult) you would step back and think - What???

Anyway, for those of us born outside of the Church, having no education or opportunity to receive the Eucharist and understand it from an early age, it can be difficult to wrap the mind around it. That’s why we call it a mystery to begin with.

Sorry, hope I haven’t rambled too much. I wish you peace and blessings from God our Father.

MW

 

[Crazy_Diamond]

Any non-Catholics here believe in these Miracles? If you have and even if you don’t, I’d love to share some true and documented stories of them. I have some wonderful stories, then you decide…

I don’t know any Baptist or Calvinists who believe in eucharistic miracles. I don’t see any reason why Lutherans and Anglicans couldn’t. Sometimes the Hussites and Waldensians get lumped in with Protestants although were around long before us. As far as I know, those churches wouldn’t have any impediment to believing in eucharistic miracles.

 

[O.S.Luke]

Dear O.S. Luke,

Amen to your comment.

Question: On another thread, there was a reference to the United Methodist Website for information about the Holy Eucharist. Do you know the website address? I’m not familiar with the organization of the Methodists so I don’t know if the reference to the website was to a local church or someplace else.
Maybe you have your own website? Thank you.

Blessings,
grannymh

gbod.org/worship/thisholymystery/default.html

This is the OFFICIAL statement on the Eucharist for the denomination.

 

[grannymh]

Hello grannymh.

Thank you for the kind reply.

To be honest, you don’t know how many times I wish I was born a Catholic. I would have been baptized an infant, confirmed and would’ve hopefully had proper catechesis. But, such was not the case.

When I began to investigate the Catholic Church I read a lot. I doubted some things. I believed some things. One thing that didn’t bother me was the sacraments. I had no problem with the theological understanding of the Real Presence. I still don’t have that problem.

Now, obviously I’m still not Catholic (long story), but if I were given the opportunity to receive the Eucharist I would be so happy to do so. If I’m being honest, I would say that if and when I do it will be a strange situation. The implications of receiving Jesus body, blood, soul and divinity are enormous.

Part of my mind sees it as strange to eat the flesh and drink the blood of an individual, divine or not. I mean, if someone were to tell you that they eat the flesh and drink the blood of an individual (let’s say in some pagan cult) you would step back and think - What???

Anyway, for those of us born outside of the Church, having no education or opportunity to receive the Eucharist and understand it from an early age, it can be difficult to wrap the mind around it. That’s why we call it a mystery to begin with.

Sorry, hope I haven’t rambled too much. I wish you peace and blessings from God our Father.

MW

Dear Mystic Warrior,

May I get back to you later.

While you may not receive the Eucharist in a Catholic Church, since you are not a Catholic, there is a way you can still be in the presence of the Real Presence of Jesus. This is called Eucharistic Adoration. This devotion varies from place to place so I need to give you more general information later.

Briefy, I want to mention a few of the mechanics of Adoration.
To obtain the security code to Our Eucharistic Adoration Chapel, one had to register. Since this was done through the parish,
the question came up about non-Catholics registering.

It was decided that non-Catholics could register provided they respected the belief that Jesus was truly present in the Sacred Host, visible on the altar. Also, they would be asked to show the same kind of reverence in the Chapel as Catholics. Of course they would not be required to kneel or genuflect but they would be required to pray or read silently, etc. They would also be required to sign in and out like everyone else.

I mention the above just in case there is Eucharistic Adoration near you. But, obviously, different areas have different requirments. I also need to tell you more about Eucharistic Adoration. Sorry that I have to leave.

One fast thought. This is personal and you can just think about it rather than answer. Are you the kind of person who prays to Jesus as if He were truly sitting at your side?

Blessings,
grannymh

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

Dear Mystic Warrior,

May I get back to you later.

While you may not receive the Eucharist in a Catholic Church, since you are not a Catholic, there is a way you can still be in the presence of the Real Presence of Jesus. This is called Eucharistic Adoration. This devotion varies from place to place so I need to give you more general information later.

Briefy, I want to mention a few of the mechanics of Adoration.
To obtain the security code to Our Eucharistic Adoration Chapel, one had to register. Since this was done through the parish,
the question came up about non-Catholics registering.

It was decided that non-Catholics could register provided they respected the belief that Jesus was truly present in the Sacred Host, visible on the altar. Also, they would be asked to show the same kind of reverence in the Chapel as Catholics. Of course they would not be required to kneel or genuflect but they would be required to pray or read silently, etc. They would also be required to sign in and out like everyone else.

I mention the above just in case there is Eucharistic Adoration near you. But, obviously, different areas have different requirments. I also need to tell you more about Eucharistic Adoration. Sorry that I have to leave.

One fast thought. This is personal and you can just think about it rather than answer. Are you the kind of person who prays to Jesus as if He were truly sitting at your side?

Blessings,
grannymh

grannymh,

Thank you and I understand you need to get back to me. You have been very gracious.

I’ve been to mass a few times, but never adoration. And I never thought about it till you mentioned it. I’m a closet catholic (as my wife would tell you). God has sent me on a long path, one in which I have repeatedly gone astray.

I truly believe that Jesus is there. And it hurts that I can’t presently receive Him there. I pray to Jesus, the Father and to the Blessed Virgin Mary as if they were right here with me. They have been ever present to me for a couple of years now.

I’ve seen many miracles from my Father and the sacrament itself is a miracle in my opinion. To think that my Lord would offer Himself in this way is humbling. If I were to go to adoration I assure you that I would be respectul. When I’ve attended mass before I’ve genuflected and done as others have done.

Thank you once again for your Christ-like spirit.

Dominus Vobiscum!

MW

 

[grannymh]

grannymh,

I’ve been to Mass a few times, but never adoration. And I never thought about it till you mentioned it. … I truly believe that Jesus is there. … I’ve seen many miracles from my Father and the sacrament itself is a miracle in my opinion. To think that my Lord would offer Himself in this way is humbling.

Dear Mystic Warrior,

I have the bible opened to James 4:8 and would like to add verse 10 “Humble yourselves before the Lord and He will exalt you.” It sounds like that is what you are doing.

There are different kinds of Eucharistic miracles. Besides the ones which strengthened faith in the Real Presence of Jesus which comes about at Holy Mass, there are those that direct our attention to the fact that Jesus remains present in the Sacred Hosts,

In 1730, in Siena, Italy, thieves stole the chalice for it’s value and left the consecrated Hosts in an alms box at another church. These Hosts were found and set aside for special reverence. Whenever these Hosts are examined, they are found to be fresh, intact, uncorrupted, chemically pure without any sign of alteration. Jesus meant what He said about not leaving us orphans. He is present continually which is why there is Adoration of Jesus in addition to Holy Mass.

As a visitor to Eucharistic Adoration, one participates, along with other adorers, in adoring Jesus, thanking Him for all He has done, asking Him for mercy, and humbly petitioning Him for His help. Visitors chose their own way of praying. Or they may just sit quietly before Our Lord.

Eucharistic Adoration draws us to Holy Mass where we can receive Jesus in Holy Communion. And the Holy Mass, through the greatest miracle ever, makes it possible for Jesus to remain present beyond the time of Holy Mass. Yes, it is a circle of divine love.

www.acfp2000.com is a website that lists churches which have some form of Eucharistic Adoration. Many churches have a short period of Adoration on the first Friday of the month. Not every church is listed, so it would be wise to check those nearest you or those nearest to the place where you work. Many people make short visits before or after work, on their way to a doctor’s appointment, etc…

Remember it is not the length of the visit that is important, it is the fact that you are there. There is no dress code.

You are very blest in that Jesus, the Father, and the Blessed Virgin Mary are present with you. That is not unusual. They are keeping their promise to help us. What is truly wonderful is that you recognize the fact and actually talk to them. “Talking” is an informal prayer. Too many of us ignore the presence of Jesus, the Father, and the Blessed Virgin Mary.

One final thought about prayer. There is a prayer that people say when they cannot receive the Blessed Sacrament. I don’t have one handy. However, I bet you have made up your own prayer to Jesus. Basically, this prayer acknowledges that Jesus is truly present in the Eucharist. It expresses the longing to actually receive Him. But since that is impossible, the prayer asks Jesus to come spiritually. Then the prayer allows for one to put into words the same kind of things one would say if Jesus had come in Holy Communion.

You can use the same kind of prayer when you can’t get to Holy Mass or Adoration. Again, I bet you already do this. I just want to affirm that this kind of prayer is good.

I don’t remember where I heard or read this phrase, It encourages one to “step out in faith”.

I will be traveling to see my grandchildren and will be off this thread for awhile. You and those close to you are in my prayers.

Blessings,
grannymh

 

[Gatell]

You must remember that Auriel stated that they are non-Catholic. I was raised and still am non-Catholic. The thought never, ever occurred to me that the Eucharist (Lord’s Supper in my neck of the woods) was actually the body and blood of my Lord.

You have to understand where we come from. It’s not that we don’t believe, it’s just strange to think of it this way when you’ve always thought it was symbolic. You seem to be judging their intentions when it was clear (to me) that Auriel was just being honest and didn’t imply cannibalism.

Were you ever non-Catholic? Can you understand where non-Catholics come from on this issue?

By the way, I believe in the Real Presence and it’s still a little difficult to get through my head the mystery of it.

Have some charity.

Peace…

MW

Hello:

If I may interject; it’s funny it was the very issue of real eating, canibalism, and the drinking of blood that forced many Jews away from Jesus.

Jesus certainly shocked his followers when He declared that we should eat His Body and drink His Blood. Perhaps it still shocks today.

God Bless,

Victor

 

[Gatell]

Hello grannymh.

Thank you for the kind reply.

To be honest, you don’t know how many times I wish I was born a Catholic. I would have been baptized an infant, confirmed and would’ve hopefully had proper catechesis. But, such was not the case.

When I began to investigate the Catholic Church I read a lot. I doubted some things. I believed some things. One thing that didn’t bother me was the sacraments. I had no problem with the theological understanding of the Real Presence. I still don’t have that problem.

Now, obviously I’m still not Catholic (long story), but if I were given the opportunity to receive the Eucharist I would be so happy to do so. If I’m being honest, I would say that if and when I do it will be a strange situation. The implications of receiving Jesus body, blood, soul and divinity are enormous.

Part of my mind sees it as strange to eat the flesh and drink the blood of an individual, divine or not. I mean, if someone were to tell you that they eat the flesh and drink the blood of an individual (let’s say in some pagan cult) you would step back and think - What???

Anyway, for those of us born outside of the Church, having no education or opportunity to receive the Eucharist and understand it from an early age, it can be difficult to wrap the mind around it. That’s why we call it a mystery to begin with.

Sorry, hope I haven’t rambled too much. I wish you peace and blessings from God our Father.

MW

Hello Warrior:

I am new here and not sure how long your journey, but have you read or listened to Scott Hahn? Wonderful conversion stories about him and his wife. Very powerful actually.

Forgive me if you have done so, if not you should look into it.

God Bless,

Victor

 

[Gatell]

Mystic Warrior;4522951:

grannymh,

One final thought about prayer. There is a prayer that people say when they cannot receive the Blessed Sacrament. I don’t have one handy. However, I bet you have made up your own prayer to Jesus. Basically, this prayer acknowledges that Jesus is truly present in the Eucharist. It expresses the longing to actually receive Him. But since that is impossible, the prayer asks Jesus to come spiritually. Then the prayer allows for one to put into words the same kind of things one would say if Jesus had come in Holy Communion.

You can use the same kind of prayer when you can’t get to Holy Mass or Adoration. Again, I bet you already do this. I just want to affirm that this kind of prayer is good.

I don’t remember where I heard or read this phrase, It encourages one to “step out in faith”.

I will be traveling to see my grandchildren and will be off this thread for awhile. You and those close to you are in my prayers.

Blessings,
grannymh

This was my favorite;

Oh Jesus, I turn toward the holy tabernacle where You live hidden for love of me. I love you, O my God. I cannot receive you in Holy Communion. Come, nevertheless, and visit me with Your grace. Come spiritually into my heart. Purify it. Sanctify it. Render it like unto Your own. Amen.

Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.

God Bless,

Victor

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

Hi everyone, I just had mouth surgery and was away with much pain…anyway, I feel better now and am back to tell another Eucharistic Miracle.

**The Eucharistic Miracle of Faverney, France, involved not a Host turned to flesh nor one that bled, but consisted of a holy, yet a flagrant disregard for the laws of gravity.
This goes back to the 16th century, 1608 to be exact. In this little church, two oil lamps were left burning before the Sacrament left exposed on the altar.
The following day the sacristan, Don Garnier opened the doors to the church and found it filled with smoke and flames on each sides of the altar. He rushed to get the other monks who ran in joining his efforts to extinguish the fire. To their amazement, the Monstrance was suspended in the air, slightly inclined toward, but not touching, the grille at the back of the altar.
News of this spread throughout the town and people all over came and saw with their own eyes.
IT WAS SUSPENDED FOR 33 HOURS IN MID AIR.
An inquiry was ordered by the Archbishop Ferdinand De Rye, 54 depositions were collected by from the monks, priests, peasants and villagers. Two months later, on July 30, 1608, after studying the depositions and the material collected during his investigation, the Archbishop concluded in favor of the Miracle. **

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

Hello:

If I may interject; it’s funny it was the very issue of real eating, canibalism, and the drinking of blood that forced many Jews away from Jesus.

Jesus certainly shocked his followers when He declared that we should eat His Body and drink His Blood. Perhaps it still shocks today.

God Bless,

Victor

Yes, you’re right. It still shocks today for those who’ve never done it and haven’t really understood it. I spent 30 years as a Southern Baptist and having it drilled into my head that the bread and wine (we had grape juice ) was symbolic only, etc. etc.

It is a mystery and one that I believe in. When I receive communion in my Lutheran church I view Jesus as really being there. I know that in the Catholic view that this is seen as not being the case, I still in my mind view it as true.

Peace…

MW

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

grannymh;4531755:

This was my favorite;

Oh Jesus, I turn toward the holy tabernacle where You live hidden for love of me. I love you, O my God. I cannot receive you in Holy Communion. Come, nevertheless, and visit me with Your grace. Come spiritually into my heart. Purify it. Sanctify it. Render it like unto Your own. Amen.

Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.

God Bless,

Victor

Thank you Victor. I will use that very prayer when I go. Thank you for sharing it. And by the way, yes, I’ve listened to Scott Hahn and really like his work. He’s an asset to the Catholic and non-Catholic community.

Dominus Vobiscum,

MW

 

[grannymh]

Hello:

If I may interject; it’s funny it was the very issue of real eating, canibalism, and the drinking of blood that forced many Jews away from Jesus.

Jesus certainly shocked his followers when He declared that we should eat His Body and drink His Blood. Perhaps it still shocks today.

God Bless,

Victor

Dear Gatell,

A good verse to meditate on is John 6: 35.
Blessings,
grannymh

 

[grannymh]

Gatell;4537388:

Thank you Victor. I will use that very prayer when I go. Thank you for sharing it. And by the way, yes, I’ve listened to Scott Hahn and really like his work. He’s an asset to the Catholic and non-Catholic community.

Dominus Vobiscum,

MW

Dear Mystic Warrior,

This is how I recommend the Scott Hahn book which other posters refer to:

The best “journey” book, which is full of compassion for the struggles involved with going from one faith to another is “Rome Sweet Home” the l993 book of Scott & Kimberly Hahn. I reread it often because it is so down to earth. Besides, Catholics often have struggles of our own…