Do Baptists believe Jesus drank wine or grape juice?

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I think Jesus probably ate and drank along with what was customary in those days.
I Don’t have an issue.
Nowhere does it ever say he was drunk I
Don’t think.
 
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Nowhere does it say he was ever drunk. But we know the Romans liked their drink and would get drunk themselves.
 
Impossible to make a clear cut answer. According to the “Protestant” Handbook of Denomination in the United States, there are at least 31 Baptist Associations, each of which disagree - some on major doctrines such as Sabbath observance. But, within those 31 admitted denominations there are thousands of individual assemblies, each of which possesses substantial freedom within a loose, Association-approved statement of beliefs (NOT a creed!!!). Some have closed communion and will not admit other Baptists!

And the Catholic Church is harangued for closed communion? Beam me up, Mr. Scott!
 
Being of good German stock, I stay away from that weird Mediterranean witch’s brew and stick with the sensible savory nectar made from oats, barley, and hops.
 
I grew up Baptist before entering the Church, but, yes, they believe it was grape juice. They understand this bit of Scripture as grape juice:

Mt 26:29

“I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

Mk 14:25

“Truly I tell you, I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”

Lk 22:18

“For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

Having attended Catholic schools in my youth & having had many Catholic relatives, there were many opportunities to attend mass, so I knew of our different understandings of these verses, but, yeah…They used (& still do use) grape juice as did all of the Nondenominational & Fundamentalist churches I’d attended in the past.
 
I’m sorry, I didn’t explain properly what I meant. Remind your Baptist friend that Jesus makes this comparison between John the Baptist and himself, and ask her whether she thinks Jesus means:

a) They call me a drunkard because I sometimes drink grape juice
or
b) They call me a drunkard because I sometimes drink wine.

My answer would be that it can only mean (b).

For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ (Luke 7:33-34, NIV)
 
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Some have closed communion and will not admit other Baptists!
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Yes, I grew up in such a church.

I have a relative who’s a Baptist minister, & he refused to do his sister’s wedding because she was marrying a non-Baptust Christian. He did likewise for me because my husband wasn’t a Baptist.

We celebrated closed communion at our Baptist church long ago. Having attended various Nondenominational churches, they are more open to who can partake of communion. Honestly, I don’t think one need be a baptized Christian to partake. One only need accept Jesus into one’s heart as their personal Lord & Savior. It’s not like anyone formally sees that only the validly baptized can partake (infant baptism is not considered valid - only immersion baptism of one who makes a personal decision was considered valid). I don’t think they monitor whether non-Christians take Communion or not at these Nondenominational churches. They usually pass along a tray with what looks to be unleavened bread (looks like broken saltine crackers) & trays of individual little cups of grape juice. Some Nondenominational churches pass a loaf of bread, which would be passed from person to person & shared.
 
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I don’t think there is any doubt that Jesus and those of his time drank wine for many of the reasons listed above: bad water, a time of celebration, tradition, etc. There are numerous positive citations in the Old Testament and New Testament to the benefits of wine. There are also references to not being a drunkard.

To believe today that the Bible was referring to grape juice is really stretching it. Moderation is the key, as it is in anything. It doesn’t really bother me that someone choses not to drink, particularly if someone has an affinity for overindulgence. It does concern me with some fundamentalists the level of negativity they pose on someone else having a few drinks of wine or beer. I have known some, to hear them talk they almost put it on the level with murder. Many of the same people don’t seem to have a problem with the overindulgence of food, and gluttony is also mentioned numerous times in the Bible,

In any event, I’d say there is little historical evidence to support the grape juice theory. As someone else said the grapes will naturally ferment. We have to keep in mind that production of wine and growing of grapes is seasonal and grape juice would not be preserved for the entire year if it did not ferment.
 
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Manischewitz for me. One will still find a bottle in my fridge.
 
Have had Manischewitz. But Mogen David came first.

Miller High Life was the first beer.
 
Not being of German stock, I prefer not to close off my options and decide to enjoy all good drinks.

Life’s too short for unnecessary limitations especially in food and drink.

Italian Prosecco, French champagne, Russian vodka, Japanese sake, bring it on.

😋
 
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I am happy to see that this thread did not wholly degenerate into a discussion of the relative merits of Mad Dog. I sampled this a time or two myself in my misspent youth.
 
My brain is not working today very well.
Could you explain in your own words without scripture what your opinion is because the scripture is only confusing me.
@BartholomewB
 
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So as a Catholic, how do we interpret those
scriptures you gave as examples @kainosktsis
 
Jesus drank wine. He also ate food/water and produced waste products. He perspired and had to wash. He cried. He grew tired and needed to rest. He was afraid (He dreaded the Cross, but accepted the Father’s will). He felt pain. He was like us in all things, except sin. The idea that Jesus didn’t drink wine is preposterous. Jewish celebrations included wine. He made wine for a wedding. If it was sinful to drink wine, Jesus would have left water in the jugs. Jesus would never cause us to stumble. Providing wine for others to drink knowing it was sinful would contradict Jesus’ nature.

*Drink responsibly!😁
 
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That is true. if it was sinful to drink wine
Jesus would not have performed his first miracle changing water into wine.
Thanks for your post. You have given me some idea of arguments I can use with my
friend - not arguing in an angry way, but
pointing out certain things.
 
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