I doubt it too — that would be loosely akin to the Averroistic concept of “double truth” — but it is a question I’ve entertained in my mind.In other words, can an Eastern marriage “die” in a way that a Western marriage can’t?
I doubt it too — that would be loosely akin to the Averroistic concept of “double truth” — but it is a question I’ve entertained in my mind.In other words, can an Eastern marriage “die” in a way that a Western marriage can’t?
Coptic Orthodox or Coptic Catholics? And if the former, do Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox (which the Copts are) have any sort of intercommunion?I’ve been Orthodox longer than ten years and I’ve known a few Orthodox priests (Antiochian) that have knowingly communed Copts here in the United States.
Until fairly recently, I was unaware that the Copts, Ethiopian Tewahedo, and similar churches were not “Eastern Orthodox”. I thought “Oriental Orthodox” was just a subset of Eastern Orthodox. Easy assumption to make if you’re a Latin Rite Catholic and think just in terms of Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant/Evangelical.I am 100% aware that the Copts are Oriental Orthodox. It’s Coptic Orthodox. If there is any sort of intercommunion I am completely unaware of it.
I wouldn’t support it, but that’s on their heads then. At any rate, Coptic Orthodox are a lot “closer” to our faith (if one can say that) than Western Catholics.I’ve been Orthodox longer than ten years and I’ve known a few Orthodox priests (Antiochian) that have knowingly communed Copts here in the United States.
What request was that?Curiously, the Orient Orthodox in general are far closer than the EO to restoring communion with Rome (if you discount the request that Rome rebuffed a few years ago).
It’s even more of an, “Oh, that’s what you mean??? Oops . . .” situation . . .
An Orthodox Church (one of the baltics iirc) requested communion with Rome a few years ago, and was politely (and quietly!) turned down, due to the wrench it would through into the broader situation. It appears the East and West both want to enter communion wholesale, rather than bits and pieces.What request was that?
That’s my impression. There’s really a single misunderstanding, not even a conflict, and little oil on the fire since then.Would I be correct in assuming that the Oriental Orthodox do not have the historical and theological “baggage” that the Eastern Orthodox have — the atrocities surrounding the horrible sack of Constantinople, the bitter fights over the filioque , and so on?
And what is that misunderstanding?That’s my impression. There’s really a single misunderstanding, not even a conflict, and little oil on the fire since then.
Monophysite, not Nestorian.The West and East thought the Orientals were Nestorian.
This is a shame. I am wondering if it was seen by Rome as a potential “uniate” situation, a method of reunion which Rome has abandoned going forward, and therefore potentially insulting to Orthodoxy. Once more, Catholicism bending over backwards not to give any offense.What request was that?
I also have to wonder it was the Latvian Orthodox Church, which immediately brings to mind the Seinfeld episode in which George converts for the sake of his girlfriend. I found that episode mildly (but only mildly) objectionable, in that it treats a part of the apostolic Church (albeit separated) as merely a weird, superstitious ethnic phenomenon, rather than as a Christian body with true faith and sacraments. But it was funny. And it allowed the world to discover that there actually is such a thing as Latvian Orthodoxy.
in any event, they were neither.Monophysite, not Nestorian.
units is currently rejected by Rome as counterproductive and a failure.This is a shame. I am wondering if it was seen by Rome as a potential “uniate” situation, a method of reunion which Rome has abandoned going forward, and therefore potentially insulting to Orthodoxy. Once more, Catholicism bending over backwards not to give any offense.
I’m not quite with you here. Are you referring to an Eastern Rite church in union with Rome, and if so, which one is it? Or are you talking about Moscow as “the largest EC [Eastern Christian] church”, i.e., the Russian Orthodox Church?also why Rome doesn’t recognize the head of the largest EC church as a Patriarch
Perhaps I’m just not well-versed enough in matters Eastern, but what do you mean? Are you referring to the ROC having been given a tomos of autocephaly from Constantinople?Although an interesting case can be made about the Tomos of the ROC, but I’m not going to go there . . .
I received a similar invitation (ended up not participating in the Qurbana, so it wasn’t an issue). If I were in a corner of the world where only these sacraments were available, I’d receive them without giving it a second thought.I was invited to receive communion at a Syriac Orthodox church, by members of the church, but I declined out of fear that I might be portraying myself as a schismatic. However, there would be times where I would receive communion out of Syriac Orthodox church, like if there was no Catholic church around. I have to say, in response to the original question here it really depends on the bishop of whichever Orthodox jurisdiction. I had a professor, that is an Eastern Orthodox priest, I would say in the case of an emergency , he probably would not have a problem with me confessing to him or receiving Holy Communion from him.