Do Catholics believe John 6:53?

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NotWorthy said:
Do you have any documentations that shows that the Church has taught this since the time it was written.

From all we can see, other than an obscure document in the 3rd or 4th century that never gained traction, no word was written about this until the 1800’s. Surely, you can find something sooner than that if it was “taught since the time it was written”.
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I believe that all scripture was taught from the time of Christ, and is still taught today. Ralph
 
Ralph, do you see how 2 different individuals can read the same Scripture and come up with 2 different theologies??

How do you know which one is correct? 2 individuals can both claim they’re being guided by the Holy Spirit and come up with to contrasting versions of what the Scripture means.
 
PRmerger said:
Ralph, do you see how 2 different individuals can read the same Scripture and come up with 2 different theologies??

How do you know which one is correct? 2 individuals can both claim they’re being guided by the Holy Spirit and come up with to contrasting versions of what the Scripture means.
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I am not sure what you are refering to. Ralph
 
ralphy said:
I believe that all scripture was taught from the time of Christ, and is still taught today. Ralph
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This is funny, Ralph.

We have shown you where Baptism of Water and Spirit and the Eucharist have been taught since the 1st century. You don’t believe it.

You can’t show us where the Rapture has been taught since before, about, 1870. You believe it.

I’ll go with Sacred Tradition, Ralph. Sacred Tradition is the Democracy of the Dead.
 
Randy_Carson said:
Whatever you (Peter) bind on earth is also bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth is also bound in heaven.
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What is the context of these “binding and loosing” verses? Do they have anything to do with confession of sin?
 
NotWorthy said:
This is funny, Ralph.

We have shown you where Baptism of Water and Spirit and the Eucharist have been taught since the 1st century. You don’t believe it.

You can’t show us where the Rapture has been taught since before, about, 1870. You believe it.

I’ll go with Sacred Tradition, Ralph. Sacred Tradition is the Democracy of the Dead.
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Bingo and busted.👍
 
ralphy said:
I believe that all scripture was taught from the time of Christ, and is still taught today. Ralph
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And who teaches Scripture? Lutherans? Presbyterians? Congregationalists? Methodists? Nazarenes? Seven Day Adventists? Pentecostals? Free Will Baptists? Reformed Baptists? Seventh Day Baptists? Etc., etc., etc.

God Bless,
Michael
 
NotWorthy said:
This is funny, Ralph.

We have shown you where Baptism of Water and Spirit and the Eucharist have been taught since the 1st century. You don’t believe it.

You can’t show us where the Rapture has been taught since before, about, 1870. You believe it.

I’ll go with Sacred Tradition, Ralph. Sacred Tradition is the Democracy of the Dead.
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What do you mean by the "baptism of water and spirit?. I also do not see the word “eucharist” in the bible, where did that word come from?. Ralph
 
mikeledes said:
And who teaches Scripture? Lutherans? Presbyterians? Congregationalists? Methodists? Nazarenes? Seven Day Adventists? Pentecostals? Free Will Baptists? Reformed Baptists? Seventh Day Baptists? Etc., etc., etc.

God Bless,
Michael
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I am really not sure who teaches scripture. I know that if the church I attend did not teach from the Bible only, I would not go there. Ralph
 
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  		*Ralph, do you see how 2 different individuals can read the same Scripture and come up with 2 different theologies??
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How do you know which one is correct? 2 individuals can both claim they’re being guided by the Holy Spirit and come up with to contrasting versions of what the Scripture means.*
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ralphy said:
I am not sure what you are refering to. Ralph
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do you think all Christian faiths agree on the necessity of baptism? The Trinity?
 
ralphy said:
What do you mean by the "baptism of water and spirit?. I also do not see the word “eucharist” in the bible, where did that word come from?. Ralph
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The same place where the words “Bible” and “Trinity” came from.

God Bless,
Michael
 
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NotWorthy:
do you think all Christian faiths agree on the necessity of baptism? The Trinity?I would think so. Ralph
 
ralphy said:
I am really not sure who teaches scripture. I know that if the church I attend did not teach from the Bible only, I would not go there. Ralph
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Oneness Pentecostals teach from the Bible only. Would you go there?

God Bless,
Michael
 
PRmerger said:
…we have shown that Jesus did pray/converse with Elijah and Moses, so must Christians.
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To take this event in the Gospel and say that it is teaching that we must all pray to Elijah and Moses (when was the last time you did that?) is a clear example of reading into the text only what you want it to say. This passage is about revealing the glory of Jesus Christ that was veiled by His flesh while He walked the earth. It is not about praying to the saints.

Peter later writes about this event…

For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. [2 Pet 1:17]

Peter does not even mention Elijah or Moses but he explains that Jesus received honor and glory from the Father.
 
ralphy said:
OH,you mean the Roman catholic church? Ralph
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So I guess this means you’ll stop using the word “Trinity?” 😛

BTW, “eucharist” means “tanksgiving” which comes from Christ’s words when He instituted the Eucharist.

God Bless,
Michael
 
mikeledes said:
So I guess this means you’ll stop using the word “Trinity?” 😛

BTW, “eucharist” means “tanksgiving” which comes from Christ’s words when He instituted the Eucharist.

God Bless,
Michael
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Actually He instituted the Last Supper. Ralph
 
ralphy said:
I would have to see what kind of stand they take first. For instance : speaking in tongues and other things. Ralph
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They are unitarian - there’s only one person in the Godhead (Jesus) but He manifests Himself as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They also believe in speaking in tongues. :confused: Is speaking in tongues against the Bible?

God Bless,
Michael
 
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