Do Catholics have a plan for when abortion is illegal?

[drjones79]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

 

[balesie]

I’m a little confused by the question because you start out with the pro-choice vs pro-life discussion and then move into Roman Catholics. Are you asking what the Roman Catholics, as part of the pro-life movement, will do to help pregnant women? It almost sounds like you are saying pro-life = Roman Catholic (if you are one then you are the other).

I can’t fully answer your question but I know that there are pro-life groups like Coalition for Life that help, I’m not sure to what extent beyond what I read in the book UnPlanned. You could look up their website and contact someone to find out more.

I don’t know of a specific organization or method in my Catholic parish, but if someone contacted them needing help, I know of members who would help. I have, on more than one occasion, received emails asking for help with supplies for pregnancy or newborns.

 

[puzzleannie]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

uh, try the yellow pages under crisis pregnancy and you will find not only PP and the abortion providers but the Catholic and other Christian-sponsored pregnancy centers who have existed as long as there has been a need. I cannot believe you have not already as part of your research contacted pro-life groups, particularly Catholic ones in your are, as part of your research, and found out what organizations operated nationally and in your area. What did Catholic Social Services of your diocese say when you contacted them?

 

[HickmanJosh]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

Well my best guess is that the current pregnancy help centers(pro-life operated or otherwise anti-abortion) would be expanded to met the needs of all the pregnant women who otherwise wouldn’t have gone to such centers, possible government funding might help too but i can’t really say. Regardless i highly doubt our(pro-lifers) goal is to just get the legislation in place and forget about the women and the children who still need help.

 

[SonCatcher]

There are already a number of services offered by Catholic institutions to help with living and care needs. They just need to be better advertized so that the affected women and those near them know what assistance is available and where. These things are not limited to after abortion is made illegal (presuming such a thing is actually done - it would be a greater victory for abortionists to go out of business for lack of demand). We can raise awareness now. Same thing applies to Natural Family Planning and educating about chastity.

 

[Scoobyshme]

Well, unfortunately, abortion is now outside of the law. Even if they made it illegal, they could never prevent a single abortion. Why? Because medicine has advanced to the point where they can just take a pill and cause the abortion. And this pill can also be used for other medical purposes, such as treating cervical cancer. So, all a doctor has to do is give the woman a pill and she has an abortion. The law could never prove in court that it wasn’t for other causes, so they won’t pursue it.

What has to happen is that people’s hearts have to be changed. A priest was once asked how this was going to happen for ALL these people who are so misled, etc.?! The priest answered, “One soul at a time.” That’s true.

 

[reginacaeli]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

You can get more info on crisis pregnancy centers here:

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Catholics have ALWAYS run adoption agencies. If abortions were to become illegal again (which won’t happen on a national level) then babies would again be available for adoption and that effort would quickly grow to serve the new need.

 

[po18guy]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

The concept of unwanted pregnancy and unwanted children is not new to humanity, but has been grossly distorted by a culture that is absorbed with pleasure and the self. First, consider that unmarried pregnancies were much less common when abortion was illegal. They will become less common once again if abortion is banned, as it should be. Humans engage in activities in inverse proportion to the perceived cost of engaging in those activities. Drive the cost up and participation will drop.

A similar question was posed by “population experts” in the 1950s and 1960s. They commonly predicted that the earth simply could not support a population much larger than existed in those days. Well, we are supporting over twice that now. The flaw in the argument is that it assumes that only one factor in the equation will change. Consider: Much of the earth is arid and unproductive simply because there are no humans there irrigating and farming it. 400 years ago, this was the United States.

When and if there is a sudden influx of babies, the Church, which means us, will not simply stand there and lament. It will glorify God for His goodness and take action. We live in a world of dynamism, where only in photographs do things stand still.

 

[drjones79]

If I understand Roman Catholic Canon Law correctly if you are of that faith you are pro life, so I wanted to get this sub groups view on how they would best meet the need. I need to understand how well a sampling of Roman Catholics understand the cultural, class, and emotional challenges that mothers (of any age) would face when abortion is not a legal option and how they would handle that.

 

[Barb3]

As I recall a friend of mine was a nurse and worked in a home run by the Catholic Church which took care of young women who were pregnant and not married. The majority of them put the babies up for adoption – and this is one of the reasons I’m very much pro-life – I have three adopted children in my family – one of my grandsons and two children of cousins, and if their Moms had decided to have an abortion these children wouldn’t exist. My friend said that she was surprised because at times many of the girls who came to this home when they were pregnant were as young as 15 - 16 - definitely too young to keep those babies.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

First, Catholics do not call abortion ‘choice.’ The words are not equivalent.

Second, already in place are any number of charities designed to help mothers, and any number of couples who can’t have children of their own who are eager to adopt.

 

[SonCatcher]

If I understand Roman Catholic Canon Law correctly if you are of that faith you are pro life, so I wanted to get this sub groups view on how they would best meet the need. I need to understand how well a sampling of Roman Catholics understand the cultural, class, and emotional challenges that mothers (of any age) would face when abortion is not a legal option and how they would handle that.

Christian teaching has been “pro-life” since 33 A.D. How pregnancy out of wedlock is handled has varied according to the era and culture (sadly, many such times it was handled poorly by culture). Unfortunately, many self-identified Christians (Catholic and otherwise) have chosen to abandon this teaching for political expediency.

A couple of modern examples of Catholics handling unexpected pregnancy:

• One Catholic teenager courageously revealed her pregnancy to her family who supported her through the ordeal. My adopted brother is the result.
• A priest of my acquaintance manages a home where unwed pregnant women and mothers may stay indefinitely.

There are many resources already available now, when abortion is legal. They may be strained if it were suddenly made illegal but will remain and grow nonetheless.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

The concept of unwanted pregnancy and unwanted children is not new to humanity, but has been grossly distorted by a culture that is absorbed with pleasure and the self. First, consider that unmarried pregnancies were much less common when abortion was illegal. They will become less common once again if abortion is banned, as it should be. Humans engage in activities in inverse proportion to the perceived cost of engaging in those activities. Drive the cost up and participation will drop.

A similar question was posed by “population experts” in the 1950s and 1960s. They commonly predicted that the earth simply could not support a population much larger than existed in those days. Well, we are supporting over twice that now. The flaw in the argument is that it assumes that only one factor in the equation will change. Consider: Much of the earth is arid and unproductive simply because there are no humans there irrigating and farming it. 400 years ago, this was the United States.

When and if there is a sudden influx of babies, the Church, which means us, will not simply stand there and lament. It will glorify God for His goodness and take action. We live in a world of dynamism, where only in photographs do things stand still.

:clapping::clapping::yup: Great post! I can tell you that I would rather work in adoption than standing outside an abortion clinic, saying the last prayers that the babies will ever have said for them before they die.

 

[po18guy]

If I understand Roman Catholic Canon Law correctly if you are of that faith you are pro life, so I wanted to get this sub groups view on how they would best meet the need. I need to understand how well a sampling of Roman Catholics understand the cultural, class, and emotional challenges that mothers (of any age) would face when abortion is not a legal option and how they would handle that.

1.2 billion members are a sub-group?

As to your question: Just the way the Church and her members did before 1973. Please correct this if it is not true: It appears that you think that banning infanticide will cause some sort of societal damage or injustice. This is a poor default to begin from.

 

[1ke]

Hello. I’m non-Roman Catholic,I’m Writing a paper for school for logic class. I have heard both sides of the argument on pro-life pro-choice and my question is what with the Roman Catholic plan be to help mothers who would’ve previously gone to Planned Parenthood for it or some other abortion clinic. this is a topic I haven’t been able to find much information on and was wondering if somebody here could point me in the right direction of basically how would Catholics handle the mothers who are still getting pregnant or unable to cope with being pregnant. Thank you for your responses ahead of time I appreciate it greatly.

So, why don’t you research what people did in all the decades prior to 1973?

 

[drjones79]

I would like to thank all of you who gave me great feedback on this very heated issue. You all have given me material I can use to write this paper objectively. To those wondering why I approach your group from the stand point I did, please understand that I have a very real stake in all of this. I am also very saddened and scared, as most of you probably will be, by a story I read about India. komonews.com/news/national/121250139.html This is not something that is just happening in India, everyday young mothers who have know idea what resources are out there turn to violence or despair.

I especially would like to thank po18guy, Barb3, and SonCatcher for their posts, my reply was actually directed toward balesie who was asking why I equated pro life to being Roman Catholic.

Again thank you all

 

[po18guy]

You are very welcome! I know now why your took that point of view. I can only hope and pray that we provided something useful, and that your paper might cause even one heart to change toward the cause of life.

Christ’s peace be with you.

 

[ConstantineTG]

Catholics have ALWAYS run adoption agencies. If abortions were to become illegal again (which won’t happen on a national level) then babies would again be available for adoption and that effort would quickly grow to serve the new need.

I think the other issue here is that the government is forcing Catholic institutions to allow same-sex couples to adopt. Which is why many shut their doors.

 

[Cojuanco]

Regarding the OP:

Well, what we currently do (providing healthcare to mothers and babies, assisting with crisis pregnancies) only more so. Possibly with government help.