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graceandglory
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I don’t. And neither does the Catholic Church. I do hope you come Home though.
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graceandglory
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I have experienced that exact same feeling. I felt it in a protestant mega bookstore. A place that once was my haven, was now screaming out from the bookshelves in a cacaphony of hundreds of different protestant viewpoints. I never went back to that store again as a protestant.
May the Lord hold you like He did me, in the hollow of your hand during this time. I hope to see you on the other side. And when I do, I will throw you a life preserver.
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I tried to post earlier, but don’t find it so I hope this does not get listed twice. Rev Kevin and Amateur piannist might want to google Lumen Gentium, from Vatican II, and look at para. 15 to see how the Church really looks at her relationship with other Christians.
Yes, she states that the fullness of faith is to be found in the Catholic Church, but I expect that members of the Baptict and AOG Churches would say teh same about their church. I don’t see a Christian objecting to this teaching.
On any web site you will find Conservatives, Liberals, and Moderates who spin Church teaching and this includes priests and bishops. The good thing about Lumen Gentium and other writings that come from the Church as a whole is that they actually represent Church teaching and not someone’s opinion.
Yes, she states that the fullness of faith is to be found in the Catholic Church, but I expect that members of the Baptict and AOG Churches would say teh same about their church. I don’t see a Christian objecting to this teaching.
On any web site you will find Conservatives, Liberals, and Moderates who spin Church teaching and this includes priests and bishops. The good thing about Lumen Gentium and other writings that come from the Church as a whole is that they actually represent Church teaching and not someone’s opinion.
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schaick
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For me the only standard is the Gospel.
Actually the only Lutheran beliefs that I can think of that are different then Catholic, I read the newest Catholic Catechism a few years back is the fact that we believe that the Pope can be fallible or maybe it was the immaculate conception of Mary. I think there was even a statement in there about how very close we are, we need to just believe??? can’t remember…
Very funny side note- I as a Lutheran was talking to my spouse’s family who are all Catholic. They thought the Immaculate Conception was all about Jesus. They were so shocked when they discovered it was all about Mary. A Lutheran teaching Catholics about the Immaculate Conception!!
You have to admit that is pretty funny. I believe strongly that I as a fellow Christian must not be a stumbling block to any fellow Christian-If you need to believe in something to experience your faith, unless of course it is something satanic/evil:
1 Corinthians 8
9Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak.
Yes good question! I believe that those churches place too much on the outward actions of people and not what the Holy Spirit, the power of GOD’s Holy Words are doing. BUT if you need to be dunked to believe you were baptized who am I to say it is wrong 1 Corinthians 8!
Ok so they remain sinners in the Catholic church, my son was already a sinner because he is Lutheran and not Catholic.
Here is a question- My new daughter-in-law suddenly now after their weddng at our home is going to get her first marriage anulled, both were legally divorced of course.
Will their marriage count or does it have to be redone because it was done in our home and by our Pastor and not a Priest?
Actually I am sort of hoping it doesn’t so when they have children they will go to the Lutheran school.
. Why? because the children at our Lutheran school learn daily Bible stories and memorize Bible verses weekly. **No church doctrine **is taught until they decide to take catechism classes in the 7th & 8th grade for confirmation.
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Will their marriage count or does it have to be redone because it was done in our home and by our Pastor and not a Priest?
The Catholic Church would not consider your daughter in law to be validly married to your son. She is certainly married to him, but her marriage was not done according to the norms of the Church. A Catholic can marry in a non Catholic ceremony and meet Church norms if she requests dispensation from that norm.
If your daughter in law wished her marriage to be recognized by the Church she would have to get an annulment. If your son’s marriage was to a non Catholic then he would also need an annulment. If it was to a Catholic and she did not have permission to marry in another faith’s ceremony then some paperwork, but not an annulment is needed.
The above paragraph applies if the couple wishes the marriage to be blessed in the Catholic Church. This is a layman’s take on a complicated subject so a priest or diocesan office should be consulted. A problem with getting the marriage blessed is that your daughter in law would have to agree to do all she can to raise the children as Catholics. Your son would not have to agree to this.
The Catholic Church would not consider your daughter in law to be validly married to your son. She is certainly married to him, but her marriage was not done according to the norms of the Church. A Catholic can marry in a non Catholic ceremony and meet Church norms if she requests dispensation from that norm.
If your daughter in law wished her marriage to be recognized by the Church she would have to get an annulment. If your son’s marriage was to a non Catholic then he would also need an annulment. If it was to a Catholic and she did not have permission to marry in another faith’s ceremony then some paperwork, but not an annulment is needed.
The above paragraph applies if the couple wishes the marriage to be blessed in the Catholic Church. This is a layman’s take on a complicated subject so a priest or diocesan office should be consulted. A problem with getting the marriage blessed is that your daughter in law would have to agree to do all she can to raise the children as Catholics. Your son would not have to agree to this.
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graceandglory,I have experienced that exact same feeling. I felt it in a protestant mega bookstore. A place that once was my haven, was now screaming out from the bookshelves in a cacaphony of hundreds of different protestant viewpoints. I never went back to that store again as a protestant.
May the Lord hold you like He did me, in the hollow of your hand during this time. I hope to see you on the other side. And when I do, I will throw you a life preserver.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I may need that life preserver.So, keep it handy.
Working out my salvation in fear and trembling,
Anna
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