Do Catholics teach and believe the Last Supper was propitiatory?

[alwayswill]

Propitiation defined:

"Propitiation properly signifies the removal of wrath by the offering of a gift," (The New Bible Dictionary).
"Propitiation signifies the turning away of wrath by an offering," (Baker's Dictionary of theology,  p. 424).
The act of appeasing the wrath and conciliating the favor of an offended person, (dictionary.com). 
"The act of appeasing the wrath," (Webster's dictionary, 1828).

I know Catholics believe the Mass is propitiatory:

re Mass:
" . . . this sacrifice is truly propitiatory," (CCC, 1367).

“As sacrifice, the Eucharist is also offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead,” (CCC, 1414).

“If any one saith, that the sacrifice of the mass is only a sacrifice of praise and of thanksgiving; or, that it is a bare commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross, but not a propitiatory sacrifice; or, that it profits him only who receives; and that it ought not to be offered for the living and the dead for sins, pains, satisfactions, and other necessities; let him be anathema.”
(Trent: On the Sacrifice of the Mass: Canon 3);

but what about the Last Supper?

Was the wrath of God appeased at the Last Supper?
Do Catholics teach and believe the Last Supper was propitiatory?

 

[Reepicheep]

I was taught as a child to say that the Last Supper was the First Mass.

I see no reason to change my belief on this point.

 

[alwayswill]

I was taught as a child to say that the Last Supper was the First Mass.

I see no reason to change my belief on this point.

was that a “yes”?
Was the wrath of God appeased at the Last Supper?
Do Catholics teach and believe the Last Supper was propitiatory?

 

[alwayswill]

Regarding the appeasing the wrath of God (propitiation)

Was anything accomplished on the Cross that was not accomplished at the Last Supper?

IOW; if propitiation was made at the Last Supper: why go to the Cross?

 

[Michael_Mayo]

Regarding the appeasing the wrath of God (propitiation)

Was anything accomplished on the Cross that was not accomplished at the Last Supper?

IOW; if propitiation was made at the Last Supper: why go to the Cross?

The last supper is meaningless without the cross.

 

[Cor_ad_Cor]

Catholic theology holds that propitiation was the passion, death, and resurrection as a whole, which starts with the Last Supper. They should be viewed as one continual action from preparation of the upper room through his appearing on the third day.

The Liturgy of the Eucharist in the Mass is a mystical way in which we join and participate in this one event in time. The Triduum liturgy drives home the point even better.

 

[twf]

Regarding the appeasing the wrath of God (propitiation)

Was anything accomplished on the Cross that was not accomplished at the Last Supper?

IOW; if propitiation was made at the Last Supper: why go to the Cross?

The mystery of our salvation is rooted in the incarnation. Christ united humanity to His divinity by assuming our nature. What He assumed He also healed. He died in His humanity and He rose in His humanity. The Eucharist is the abiding, mystical continuation of the incarnation. In Luke 24, the risen Lord breaks bread with His disciples and then vanishes from their sight and St Luke tells us “they perceived Him in the breaking of the bread.” The Eucharist cannot be separated from the incarnation nor the cross. It is the same mystery. On the altar the Holy Spirit makes present the one sacrifice of the cross. God is not limited by time and space as we are. Christ is risen. His sacrifice is complete. Yet St John saw Him standing before the Father in heaven as a “Lamb slain” (Rev 5:6). The Last Supper is no different. The one sacrifice of the cross was made present.

 

[GKC]

The mystery of our salvation is rooted in the incarnation. Christ united humanity to His divinity by assuming our nature. What He assumed He also healed. He died in His humanity and He rose in His humanity. The Eucharist is the abiding, mystical continuation of the incarnation. In Luke 24, the risen Lord breaks bread with His disciples and then vanishes from their sight and St Luke tells us “they perceived Him in the breaking of the bread.” The Eucharist cannot be separated from the incarnation nor the cross. It is the same mystery. On the altar the Holy Spirit makes present the one sacrifice of the cross. God is not limited by time and space as we are. Christ is risen. His sacrifice is complete. Yet St John saw Him standing before the Father in heaven as a “Lamb slain” (Rev 5:6). The Last Supper is no different. The one sacrifice of the cross was made present.

Yep. As I understand it.

 

[Duane1966]

I know Catholics believe the Mass is propitiatory:

but what about the Last Supper?

Was the wrath of God appeased at the Last Supper?
Do Catholics teach and believe the Last Supper was propitiatory?

If Jesus is the lamb that has to be slain, after the lamb was slain, what had to be done to it?

When was this act done to the Lamb of God?

If this act was not done, is the Sacrifice of the Cross propitiatory?

 

[alwayswill]

If Jesus is the lamb that has to be slain, after the lamb was slain, what had to be done to it?

When was this act done to the Lamb of God?

If this act was not done, is the Sacrifice of the Cross propitiatory?

yes: that Sacrifice of the Cross is propitiatory even if no one ate anything

Romans 3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood–to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished–

Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin

Hebrews 9:22
In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

yet this thread is about the if the Last Supper was propitiatory:
IOW if Christ did not go the Cross: propitiation was made ( a Sacrificial Atonement was made ) at the Last Supper: is that true?

 

[Peter_J]

I know Catholics believe the Mass is propitiatory:

but what about the Last Supper?

Was the wrath of God appeased at the Last Supper?
Do Catholics teach and believe the Last Supper was propitiatory?

AW … isn’t that like asking “Were the nails in his hands propitiatory?”

 

[Peter_J]

I know Catholics believe the Mass is propitiatory:

Why not the full quote?

1367 The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: “The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different.” “And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner... this sacrifice is truly propitiatory.”

 

[Duane1966]

yes: that Sacrifice of the Cross is propitiatory even if no one ate anything

Romans 3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood–to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished–

Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin

Hebrews 9:22
In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

Do any of these passages say that Christ did not have to be eaten?

The lamb had to be eaten under the Old Law, how is there fulfillment of the Old Law if He was not eaten?

 

[alwayswill]

AW … isn’t that like asking “Were the nails in his hands propitiatory?”

nope: its not like that.

The shedding of His Blood is propitiatory:

Was pouring of the wine at Last Supper propitiatory?

 

[alwayswill]

Do any of these passages say that Christ did not have to be eaten?

The lamb had to be eaten under the Old Law, how is there fulfillment of the Old Law if He was not eaten?

no : these passages did NOT say that Christ did not have to be eaten

the passages did say the the shedding of the blood is propitiatory (made an atoning Sacrifice; appeased the wrath of God)

This thread is about the Last Supper:
The Lamb as not been put to death:
was the eating of the bread at the Last Supper propitiatory?

 

[alwayswill]

Do any of these passages say that Christ did not have to be eaten?

The lamb had to be eaten under the Old Law, how is there fulfillment of the Old Law if He was not eaten?

Ex12
6 Each family must take care of its animal until the evening of the fourteenth day of the month, when the animals are to be killed. 7 Some of the blood must be put on the two doorposts and above the door of each house where the animals are to be eaten. 8 That night the animals are to be roasted and eaten, together with bitter herbs and thin bread made without yeast. 9 Don’t eat the meat raw or boiled. The entire animal, including its head, legs, and insides, must be roasted. 10 Eat what you want that night, and the next morning burn whatever is left. 11 When you eat the meal, be dressed and ready to travel. Have your sandals on, carry your walking stick in your hand, and eat quickly. This is the Passover Festival in honor of me, your Lord.

12 That same night I will pass through Egypt and kill the first-born son in every family and the first-born male of all animals. I am the Lord, and I will punish the gods of Egypt. 13 The blood on the houses will show me where you live, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. Then you won’t be bothered by the terrible disasters I will bring on Egypt.

The Angel of Death passes over the house because they were “under” the blood;
not because of what they were going to eat later.

They were safe the very moment the blood was placed over the door way .

so was the wrath of God appeased at the very moment the wine was poured: or Christ blood/life was poured out on the Cross?

 

[Duane1966]

no : these passages did NOT say that Christ did not have to be eaten

the passages did say the the shedding of the blood is propitiatory (made an atoning Sacrifice; appeased the wrath of God)

This thread is about the Last Supper: was the eating of the bread at the Last Supper propitiatory?

Yes. Because of what happened on Calvary, and the Resurrection.

You are trying to separate The Last Supper from Calvary, but in Catholic, and Eucharistic theology, they are so intertwined that from Holy Thursday through the Resurrection, there is but one event.

And under the Old Law, the lamb had to be eaten. In other words, if as you state, Jesus was not eaten, ergo, He did not fulfill the Old Law, which would mean that He is not the Messiah.

You could realize, that the inspired writers are writing to Christians who already know that the Lamb of God was eaten by the Apostles at the Last Supper, in a sacramental way, thereby fulfilling the Law that the sacrificial lamb had to be eaten.

 

[Son_of_Jonah]

That’s a loaded question. You’re assuming that the sacrifice of Calvary and the Last Supper are two different things, but as many posters here have said, Catholic teaching is that they are one and the same act. So your question doesn’t make sense, and continuing to ask it won’t make us respond any differently.

 

[Vico]

I know Catholics believe the Mass is propitiatory:

but what about the Last Supper?

Was the wrath of God appeased at the Last Supper?
Do Catholics teach and believe the Last Supper was propitiatory?

…as St. Augustine teaches us, the outward rite of Sacrifice is the sacrament, or sacred sign, of the invisible sacrifice of the heart. It was by this inward sacrifice of obedience unto death, by this perfect love with which He laid down his life for His friends, that Christ paid the debt to justice, and taught us by His example, and drew all things to Himself; it was by this that He wrought our Atonement and Reconciliation with God, “making peace through the blood of His Cross”.

Kent, W. (1907). Doctrine of the Atonement. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. newadvent.org/cathen/02055a.htm

Catechism
1104 Christian liturgy not only recalls the events that saved us but actualizes them, makes them present. The Paschal mystery of Christ is celebrated, not repeated. It is the celebrations that are repeated, and in each celebration there is an outpouring of the Holy Spirit that makes the unique mystery present.

1085 In the liturgy of the Church, it is principally his own Paschal mystery that Christ signifies and makes present…

Catechism

615 “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous.” 443 By his obedience unto death, Jesus accomplished the substitution of the suffering Servant, who “makes himself an offering for sin”, when “he bore the sin of many”, and who “shall make many to be accounted righteous”, for “he shall bear their iniquities”. 444 Jesus atoned for our faults and made satisfaction for our sins to the Father. 445

443 Rom 5:19.
444 Isa 53:10-12.
445 Cf. Council of Trent (1547): DS 1529.

 

[Duane1966]

Ex12
6 Each family must take care of its animal until the evening of the fourteenth day of the month, when the animals are to be killed. 7 Some of the blood must be put on the two doorposts and above the door of each house where the animals are to be eaten. 8 That night the animals are to be roasted and eaten, together with bitter herbs and thin bread made without yeast. 9 Don’t eat the meat raw or boiled. The entire animal, including its head, legs, and insides, must be roasted. 10 Eat what you want that night, and the next morning burn whatever is left. 11 When you eat the meal, be dressed and ready to travel. Have your sandals on, carry your walking stick in your hand, and eat quickly. This is the Passover Festival in honor of me, your Lord.

12 That same night I will pass through Egypt and kill the first-born son in every family and the first-born male of all animals. I am the Lord, and I will punish the gods of Egypt. 13 The blood on the houses will show me where you live, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. Then you won’t be bothered by the terrible disasters I will bring on Egypt.

The Angel of Death passes over the house because they were “under” the blood;
not because of what they were going to eat later.

They were safe the very moment the blood was placed over the door way .

so was the wrath of God appeased at the very moment the wine was poured: or Christ blood/life was poured out on the Cross?

So you are saying if they put blood on their doorposts, but did not eat the Lamb as God commanded, he would still have passed over their houses. Can you show me where it says this? And why did God command them to eat the lamb if it was not important?