Do Fundamentalist believe in doing penance?

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Cat_Herder said:
The problem with the “typical protestant interpretation” is that the Bible depicts only three groups of people as having received the Holy Spirit:
  1. The Apostles (and the Blessed Virgin) and maybe Stephen. (Acts 2:1-4, 6:5)
  2. The first batch of Gentile converts. (Acts 10:47)
  3. Those on whom the Apostles laid hands. (Acts 8:14–17)
Clearly not everyone has the power to convey the Holy Spirit, as Simon found out:
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Strange… if the Holy Spirit cannot be received into us, then we may have problems. Romans 8:9…
 
MelodicHeart said:
Strange… if the Holy Spirit cannot be received into us, then we may have problems. Romans 8:9…
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[BIBLEDRB]Romans 8:9[/BIBLEDRB]

Which is why you need someone who has authority to baptize and confirm you… Not a Simon.
 
StTommyMore said:
This seems to be the point that Fundamentalists have the hardest time wrapping their brain around. Repentance is not simply a change of behavior. It is a true conversion of heart, of which expression of sorrow for sin is a crucial element. This sorrow aspect is really what penance is bound up in.
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As you well know, the ‘Bible college’ you attended teaches repentence is not necessary for salvation. Simply ‘saying the sinners prayer’ is an instant ZAP into the ‘saved state’. In fact Hyles used to preach he could ‘trick’ people into being saved.
In their effort to erase anything that looks even remotely Catholic, they fall quickly into heresy.
 
StTommyMore said:
This seems to be the point that Fundamentalists have the hardest time wrapping their brain around. Repentance is not simply a change of behavior. It is a true conversion of heart, of which expression of sorrow for sin is a crucial element. This sorrow aspect is really what penance is bound up in.
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I don’t know whom you are referring to when you say “Fundamentalists,” but I have never met a Christian that considered repentance to be a change of behavior absent of a change of heart. I think you are being very misleading.

Confession is what is brought about by sorrow; penance is what the priest tells you to do in order to receive absolution. What does that have to do with sorrow? As a theology student, I am sure you are aware that the apostles never taught penance as a mechanism for absolution.
 
benidict said:
Hello my friends. 2 Peter 3:9 reads as follows. “The Lord delayeth not his promise, as some imagine, but dealeth patiently for your sake, not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance.” In the N.I.V. and in the K.J.V. the word penance has been changed to repentance. I am in a conversation with a fundamentalist, who claims that penance is a Roman Catholic Dogma. I would think, given that faith is dead without works, that repentance not followed by penance is also dead. your thoughts? I think the Douay Rheims got the translation correct. Peace 🙂
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Thanks Benidict, I find this a very interesting thread, penance /repentance and the fundamentalist take. Goodness! fancy changing words for the purpose of completely changing the meaning. Peace, Carlan
 
Can I jump in and ask where one might go to compare the Greek translation to the English?
 
Little Mary
Some options.
An interlinear Bible.
Strongs Concordance.
Blue Letter Bible is available online. I do not know if there is a Catholic site like that or not.
 
ya know my dear friends. its interesting. i have been conversing with an Ethiopian woman, who is a former coptic. and is now a pentacostal. she is Highly intelligent. i love conversing with her. anyhow. we were discussing this topic the other day. i did not even bring it up. she just stated she could not find the word penance in her bible. i told her if she had a protestant bible, she probably wouldnt. well, heres the kicker. she also is fluent in Hebrew. she got the Tanakh that the Orthodox Jews used. a copy of the Douay Rheims, and some other translations. i will get the verses for you, but the Tanakh that the Orthodox use, uses the word penance many times in the Law, in conjunction with repentance. fascinating. will get the verses for you. im conversing with her on a dating website, and forgot to write them down…:oopened her eyes though. and she is taking a second look at the Church. she had a negative view on penance before this. not anymore. Praise God! 👍
 
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