Do futurist end times interpretations lead to Jesus being a false prophet?

[fisherman_carl]

Luke 21:32 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all has taken place.

“21:32 this generation: Jesus insists that God’s judgment will fall upon Jerusalem within the lifetime of his contemporaries (A.D. 70).”
(ICSB)

 

[Jeanne1184]

Is the OT God a spiteful/vengeful God for judging Isreal by the hands of a pagan nation like Assyria, in Isaiah 10?

I am not disagreeing about God’s Divine Handiwork in OT or NT. I disagree with Origen’s stated motive for the Temple destruction: Retribution for the Crucifixion.

My thoughts about a practical purpose brought about by the destruction of the Temple could be wrong, and I’d be happy to ‘trade up’ if a better interpretation comes along. I’ve learned not to ‘wed’ interpretations (become emotionally attached to them), but always be willing to learn more.

However, I see Origen’s attributed motive as not merely different from a purpose I see as separate from the Crucifixion, but an impossibility under the New Covenant.

If God Almighty, Jesus’ Father, did not Forgive Fully all who participated in the Crucifixion (and everyone else involved up to that point, who weren’t all Jews), then every Promise of the NT for our Redemption has no basis. And if God did Forgive and then exacted revenge anyway…t’would be the ultimate diabolical scheme, eh?

Side Note: “Ritual” was a poor word choice in my last post for the sacrificial system in the OT which was good and necessary for the ‘offsetting’ of sins prior to the NT. ‘Ritual’ kinda carries with it pagan overtones, which was not the case in the OT for the Jewish people.

 

[fisherman_carl]

The destruction of the Temple was really part of the Old Covenant coming to an end with its system of sacrifices. Jesus himself also said that this would happen because they did not recognise the time of their visitation. Could this be because they were no longer under the protection of the Lord from their enemies because they did not recognise their Messiah?

We see this happening in the OT where they no longer followed God’s commandments so that God allowed them to fall into the hands of their enemies. And, the temple was destroyed twice before in the OT and they were deported to other lands.

"For the days shall come upon you, when your enemies will cast up a bank about you and surround you, and hem you in on every side, 44*¶ and dash you to the ground, you and your children within you, and they will not leave one stone upon another in you; because you did not know the time of your visitation.”
(Luke 19:43-44)

“19:42-44: Jesus foresees what eventually took place in A.D. 70, when the Roman army laid siege to Jerusalem and destroyed it (21:20). Its conquest will be a sign that God is visiting his judgment on the wayward city. ● Jesus clothes his solemn words with the language and imagery of OT prophecy (Is 29:1–3; Jer 6:6; Ezek 4:1–3). Because Jerusalem has become a repeat offender, it will again suffer the devastation that befell the city in 586 B.C. with the Babylonian invasions. ● Mystically (St. Gregory the Great, Hom. in Evan. 39): Christ continues to weep for sinners who, like Jerusalem, run after evil and refuse to make peace with God. Their sins hide from their eyes the judgment that is coming, otherwise they would weep for themselves. When it arrives, demons will besiege the soul and the Lord will visit them with his dreadful punishment.”
(ICSB)

 

[Aloysium]

No one has mentioned:

Matt 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Jesus didn’t know as a man, when it was to happen.
So, He would have meant something else by “generation”, that probably made sense to them, but was not what we mean by the term today.

 

[Nelka]

This generation refers to the generation at the time will have all these things to suffer.

You must remember that the word this has more meanings than the one you state.

 

[onemangang]

No one has mentioned:

Jesus didn’t know as a man, when it was to happen.
So, He would have meant something else by “generation”, that probably made sense to them, but was not what we mean by the term today.

Jesus may have been able to say, that no one knows the day or hour, but our Father in Heaven, that doesn’t negate that Jesus knew it would be within 40 years, besides the Olivet Discourse coincides with Revelation, where you have Jesus using language like Soon and Near

Revelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. 3 Blessed is he who reads aloud the words of the prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written therein; for the time is near.

If I was an 80 year old man, I could confidently say, I do not know the day or hour of my death, but I know it will be within 40 years and not be contradicting myself, being that the likelihood of me living to 120 years of age is all but nill. When my Grandmother passed, she did not know the day or hour when she was 65, but when she was 86 years old in hospice, she knew the time was near, and soon, in fact, she knew that it would be within a day or two, from her failing health, so much that she would request a priest on call, so she may receive the Viaticum. The priest came by, and she passed on, within a few hours!

So Jesus knew that it would be a generation, He would give a heads up on what would take place, within the generation, and after his assention, He would reveal to St.John that it was soon, and near, as the generation was coming to an end, and His this generation statement came to pass with the fall of the temple in A.D.70

God bless!