Do good deeds always count?

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i have heard that good deeds only count if you offer them up to God (as a sacrifice or whatever).

i tend to believe this is true… Anyone know what the Church officially teaches?

i think that good deeds always increase grace in a person’s soul, regardless of spirituality (?) or denomination (?) but then again, maybe i am wrong on that (?) becasue a non-Christian could do good works for reasons that are less than totally pure or godly in their motivation…

any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
 
I’ve wondered about this a little myself.

I keep starting to type something then am unsure if I agree so I delete it .

:hmmm: . . . . . . . . . 🤷

I’m interested to see what others will say.
 
**For the Son of Man will come with his angels in his Father’s glory, and then he will repay everyone according to his conduct. (Mt 16:27)

who will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek. But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek. There is no partiality with God. (Rom 2:6-11)**
 
I hope you aren’t implying that you have to literally look up, or internally say, God this is for you. If you are, then 99% of my “good deeds” have never been counted.

I don’t think you have to do this, I think in some small way, if you are a follower of Christ, it is seen and counted. In some way, all things you do must have Christ in the center. If this is the case, all your works are counted.

If you don’t have Christ, then maybe a shout out “HEY LOOK HERE! DOIN SOMETHING GOOD!” would be appropriate to get his attention. 😛
 
For what Jesus has to say on the subject, read Matthew 25, verses 31-46, which clearly shows that God is aware of all our acts of practical kindness…and takes them very personally.
 
i have heard that good deeds only count if you offer them up to God (as a sacrifice or whatever).

i tend to believe this is true… Anyone know what the Church officially teaches?

i think that good deeds always increase grace in a person’s soul, regardless of spirituality (?) or denomination (?) but then again, maybe i am wrong on that (?) becasue a non-Christian could do good works for reasons that are less than totally pure or godly in their motivation…

any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
Every good thing you do should be for God. You don’t have to say “this is for you God.” He already knows what’s in your heart before you do it. But good deeds are not enough to we must follow his commandments, love him with everything you do and say, submit to him and give him total control of your life. Live a life that is pleasing to God.
 
i have heard that good deeds only count if you offer them up to God (as a sacrifice or whatever).

i tend to believe this is true… Anyone know what the Church officially teaches?

i think that good deeds always increase grace in a person’s soul, regardless of spirituality (?) or denomination (?) but then again, maybe i am wrong on that (?) becasue a non-Christian could do good works for reasons that are less than totally pure or godly in their motivation…

any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
Good works can only be done by the grace of God. An atheist can do good works but those are for his own glory through his own human effort and he will not be rewarded according to his works.

Catechism #736
By this power of the Spirit, God’s children can bear much fruit. He who has grafted us onto the true vine will make us bear, “the fruit of the Spirit…love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.”
 
i have heard that good deeds only count if you offer them up to God (as a sacrifice or whatever).

i tend to believe this is true… Anyone know what the Church officially teaches?

i think that good deeds always increase grace in a person’s soul, regardless of spirituality (?) or denomination (?) but then again, maybe i am wrong on that (?) becasue a non-Christian could do good works for reasons that are less than totally pure or godly in their motivation…

any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
I don’t know the “official” take on this question. IMO, a good deed counts if it’s done with good intention.

Sending money to poor people is a good deed, if it’s done to help the poor. Sending money to poor people isn’t a good deed, if it’s done to promote onesself.

In both cases, the poor get money, but in the 2nd case, the motive is self-promotion not helping the poor. In the 2nd case, the “good” in the deed is only a side effect of the real goal, which is to improve one’s own station.
 
Good deeds should always be done and evil deeds should always be avoided.

Good deeds only contribute to one’s justification and sanctification, however, if the person performing them is performing them in Christ. 🙂
 
i have heard that good deeds only count if you offer them up to God (as a sacrifice or whatever).

i tend to believe this is true… Anyone know what the Church officially teaches?

i think that good deeds always increase grace in a person’s soul, regardless of spirituality (?) or denomination (?) but then again, maybe i am wrong on that (?) becasue a non-Christian could do good works for reasons that are less than totally pure or godly in their motivation…

any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
God knows our hearts, and we cannot fool God, but any good deed we do. He knows if we meant it in our hearts or just a lip service. You know what Jesus taught regarding charity? that whatever chartity you do, the right hand should not know what the left had gives? Same thing with good deeds. Be the samaritan, who helped the helpless person and just vanished, where by the samaritan after being healed must have wondered and wondered who to thank.

Have a lovely deedful day.
 
From the Catechism

ARTICLE 4
THE MORALITY OF HUMAN ACTS

1749 Freedom makes man a moral subject. When he acts deliberately, man is, so to speak, the father of his acts. Human acts, that is, acts that are freely chosen in consequence of a judgment of conscience, can be morally evaluated. They are either good or evil.

I. THE SOURCES OF MORALITY

1750 The morality of human acts depends on:
  • the object chosen;
  • the end in view or the intention;
  • the circumstances of the action.
The object, the intention, and the circumstances make up the “sources,” or constitutive elements, of the morality of human acts.

1751 The object chosen is a good toward which the will deliberately directs itself. It is the matter of a human act. The object chosen morally specifies the act of the will, insofar as reason recognizes and judges it to be or not to be in conformity with the true good. Objective norms of morality express the rational order of good and evil, attested to by conscience.

1752 In contrast to the object, the intention resides in the acting subject. Because it lies at the voluntary source of an action and determines it by its end, intention is an element essential to the moral evaluation of an action. The end is the first goal of the intention and indicates the purpose pursued in the action. The intention is a movement of the will toward the end: it is concerned with the goal of the activity. It aims at the good anticipated from the action undertaken. Intention is not limited to directing individual actions, but can guide several actions toward one and the same purpose; it can orient one’s whole life toward its ultimate end. For example, a service done with the end of helping one’s neighbor can at the same time be inspired by the love of God as the ultimate end of all our actions. One and the same action can also be inspired by several intentions, such as performing a service in order to obtain a favor or to boast about it.

1753 A good intention (for example, that of helping one’s neighbor) does not make behavior that is intrinsically disordered, such as lying and calumny, good or just. The end does not justify the means. Thus the condemnation of an innocent person cannot be justified as a legitimate means of saving the nation. On the other hand, an added bad intention (such as vainglory) makes an act evil that, in and of itself, can be good (such as almsgiving).

1754 The circumstances, including the consequences, are secondary elements of a moral act. They contribute to increasing or diminishing the moral goodness or evil of human acts (for example, the amount of a theft). They can also diminish or increase the agent’s responsibility (such as acting out of a fear of death). Circumstances of themselves cannot change the moral quality of acts themselves; they can make neither good nor right an action that is in itself evil.

II. GOOD ACTS AND EVIL ACTS

1755 A morally good act requires the goodness of the object, of the end, and of the circumstances together. An evil end corrupts the action, even if the object is good in itself (such as praying and fasting “in order to be seen by men”).

The object of the choice can by itself vitiate an act in its entirety. There are some concrete acts - such as fornication - that it is always wrong to choose, because choosing them entails a disorder of the will, that is, a moral evil.

1756 It is therefore an error to judge the morality of human acts by considering only the intention that inspires them or the circumstances (environment, social pressure, duress or emergency, etc.) which supply their context. There are acts which, in and of themselves, independently of circumstances and intentions, are always gravely illicit by reason of their object; such as blasphemy and perjury, murder and adultery. One may not do evil so that good may result from it.

IN BRIEF

1757 The object, the intention, and the circumstances make up the three “sources” of the morality of human acts.

1758 The object chosen morally specifies the act of willing accordingly as reason recognizes and judges it good or evil.

1759 “An evil action cannot be justified by reference to a good intention” (cf. St. Thomas Aquinas, Dec. praec. 6). The end does not justify the means.

1760 A morally good act requires the goodness of its object, of its end, and of its circumstances together.

1761 There are concrete acts that it is always wrong to choose, because their choice entails a disorder of the will, i.e., a moral evil. One may not do evil so that good may result from it.
 
Just a stray thought (and perhaps it should remain stray) –

What if a good deed is done with the thought “okay, God, you owe me one now?”
 
**For the Son of Man will come with his angels in his Father’s glory, and then he will repay everyone according to his conduct. (Mt 16:27)

who will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek. But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek. There is no partiality with God. (Rom 2:6-11)**
so it doesn’t matter whether you offer your good deeds up specifically for Christ (as per St Mt 25:31)?

there he says that whatever we do for the least of his brethren, we do for Him… so if we do something for a Christian, we are doing it for Him… whether offered up as such or not???

but then some of us are so used to offering stuf up that … it kinda “goes w/o saying” when we do this or that, right??
 
I hope you aren’t implying that you have to literally look up, or internally say, God this is for you. If you are, then 99% of my “good deeds” have never been counted.

I don’t think you have to do this, I think in some small way, if you are a follower of Christ, it is seen and counted. In some way, all things you do must have Christ in the center. If this is the case, all your works are counted.

If you don’t have Christ, then maybe a shout out “HEY LOOK HERE! DOIN SOMETHING GOOD!” would be appropriate to get his attention. 😛
😃

you’re probably right…
 
Every good thing you do should be for God. You don’t have to say “this is for you God.” He already knows what’s in your heart before you do it. But good deeds are not enough to we must follow his commandments, love him with everything you do and say, submit to him and give him total control of your life. Live a life that is pleasing to God.
yes, we have to be committed…

not always easy of course…

but obeying the commandments would be a good place to start… for some poeple…

i mean some belive in OSAS… and so think they don’t have to do the Commandmnets… or if they don’t somehow… no biggie with God…

so the commandments should definitely be taken seriously… and by commandments, i mean everything Jesus taught us… including givng up everything to follow Him…

everything and everyone…

that last one isn’t so hard for me… 😃
 
God knows our hearts, and we cannot fool God, but any good deed we do. He knows if we meant it in our hearts or just a lip service. You know what Jesus taught regarding charity? that whatever chartity you do, the right hand should not know what the left had gives? Same thing with good deeds. Be the samaritan, who helped the helpless person and just vanished, where by the samaritan after being healed must have wondered and wondered who to thank.

Have a lovely deedful day.
i hate anyone seeing my good deeds because they will just think that i think i am a goody2shoes… i shouldn’t care what people think, but uh… it disturbs when pepole think they know my heart… or anyone’s…

, they already do think that i think i am Ms Perfect without knowing my good deeds (or attempted good deeds.🤷)… just because i am enthused Catholic… :rolleyes:

it’s absolutely amazing how hated i am now that i am a devout catholic…

i mean an outspoken one… If i just shut up about my faith, i woiuld not have these problmes…

but then again… What problems??

i have no people in my life… That’s a problem??? 😃
 
I don’t know the “official” take on this question. IMO, a good deed counts if it’s done with good intention.

Sending money to poor people is a good deed, if it’s done to help the poor. Sending money to poor people isn’t a good deed, if it’s done to promote onesself.

In both cases, the poor get money, but in the 2nd case, the motive is self-promotion not helping the poor. In the 2nd case, the “good” in the deed is only a side effect of the real goal, which is to improve one’s own station.
It’s all about motive! Are you doing it to glorify God or yourself?
 
Just a stray thought (and perhaps it should remain stray) –

What if a good deed is done with the thought “okay, God, you owe me one now?”
i think a lot of Christians think this unconsciously… They dont always begin to see that thye think such a thing but deep down, they do… or do i project here? 😃

yes, i admit it… i have thougth this… but that’s why we need to pray… so that these thoughts will come to the surface & we can deal w/ them… talk to God about them…

admit they are stupid… 😃
 
i have heard that good deeds only count if you offer them up to God (as a sacrifice or whatever).

i tend to believe this is true… Anyone know what the Church officially teaches?

i think that good deeds always increase grace in a person’s soul, regardless of spirituality (?) or denomination (?) but then again, maybe i am wrong on that (?) becasue a non-Christian could do good works for reasons that are less than totally pure or godly in their motivation…

any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.
Give in secret so the Father may reward openly.
 
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