Do Homosexuals Have The Equal Rights in the USA?

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There are many gays who will tell you they knew they were gay in second and third grade. I do believe there is a genetic component very much the way someone is left handed or right handed. Do they have equal right and protections? No. I find it hard to make any argument that they do. The very fact that multiple times this year someone will wait outside a certain bar for the chance to beat up a gay man they have never met and do not even know. How would you feel if you knew there was a pretty good chance you or someone you knew was going to be beaten by a group of people who thought they had every right to beat Catholics for fun, good sport, etc.
The idea that some people hold ridiculous or even worse, criminal predjudices against any segment of society in no way diminishes that segments consitutional rights in our society. To say that anyone victimized by a criminal does not have equal protection under the law is just not true.
 
Equal rights…hmmm. Everyone seems to think that homosexuals have all the rights that heterosexual couples have. Well the next time your husband/wife has an accident and is in the ER and you don’t know what’s going on or if they are going to live or die and the hospital staff will not let you back to be by their side…then you tell me if I have the same rights as heterosexual couples.

And federal law was changed to keep marriage as only between a man and woman on September 21, 1996 signed in by Bill Clinton with the DOMA which main points are:
  1. No state (or other political subdivision within the United States) needs to treat a relationship between persons of the same sex as a marriage, even if the relationship is considered a marriage in another state.
  2. The federal government defines marriage as a legal union exclusively between one man and one woman.
Prior to 1996 the only states that had laws of marriage being between a man and woman only are:

The three states that had statutory language defining marriage pre-dating DOMA are Wyoming (1957), Maryland (1973) and New Hampshire (1987)

Not that I really care either way because even if same sex marriage was legal where I live I still wouldn’t get married.
 
Equal rights…hmmm. Everyone seems to think that homosexuals have all the rights that heterosexual couples have. Well the next time your husband/wife has an accident and is in the ER and you don’t know what’s going on or if they are going to live or die and the hospital staff will not let you back to be by their side…then you tell me if I have the same rights as heterosexual couples.

And federal law was changed to keep marriage as only between a man and woman on September 21, 1996 signed in by Bill Clinton with the DOMA which main points are:
  1. No state (or other political subdivision within the United States) needs to treat a relationship between persons of the same sex as a marriage, even if the relationship is considered a marriage in another state.
  2. The federal government defines marriage as a legal union exclusively between one man and one woman.
Prior to 1996 the only states that had laws of marriage being between a man and woman only are:

The three states that had statutory language defining marriage pre-dating DOMA are Wyoming (1957), Maryland (1973) and New Hampshire (1987)

Not that I really care either way because even if same sex marriage was legal where I live I still wouldn’t get married.
You are referring to a break down in the power of attorney laws, it does and has occurred however it again has no affect on rights. Hospitals do not have to let family in they simply choose to. Doctors are only obligated to speak with the patient. Clinton did the right thing, when you look at the distructive nature of gay marriage on child rearing you can see why it is correct to restrict marriage.
 
You are referring to a break down in the power of attorney laws, it does and has occurred however it again has no affect on rights. Hospitals do not have to let family in they simply choose to. Doctors are only obligated to speak with the patient. Clinton did the right thing, when you look at the distructive nature of gay marriage on child rearing you can see why it is correct to restrict marriage.
What is the destructive nature of gay marriage?
 
What is the destructive nature of gay marriage?
Gay marriage will create a breakdown in the social systems installed to aid children and the mothers who dedicate their lives to these children. When SSAs think they will achieve “family” insurance, dependent social security benefits, tax benefits, etc…,. They won’t, instead they will drive a rewrite of laws to develop non-family status for mothers and children within the law (that is a bad thing). The father duties will be replaced by government. Saying all this is by no means a slam on SSA I know some SSA people and they are some of the best people I know. We do need to fix the power of attorney thing do allow them to resolve some problems in their partnerships. Damaging marriage laws will not help the SSA at all.
 
What is the destructive nature of gay marriage?
Marriage between two homosexuals can never be valid in the Christian sense of what marriage is. The Church and the Bible teaches that a man and a woman become married and becomes one flesh. Two men or two women can never become as one flesh as promoted by the Christian idea of marriage. This becoming one flesh is significantly important in Christian theology to the point where it is always a mortal sin when there is sex outside of the marriage sacrament.

The other reason is that if one or both of the members of the gay relationship accepts the call from Jesus to become a full Christian then the relationship will not be sustainable. One cannot be a true Christian and a practising homo-sexual at the same time. One or the other must be sacrificed.
 
I try and never use the word “gay” as it is a euphenism that attempts to minimize the evil of homosexual beahavior.
For the utmost in clarity, perhaps you could simply always use the adjective “evil” before the noun “homosexual”. No ambiguity there.
 
No! They can’t get married. It’s perfectly normal. You don’t keep your straightness to yourself do you? Then why should they have to keep their sexual orientation to theirselves? The insensitivity and arrogance here repulses me :eek:
 
No! They can’t get married. It’s perfectly normal. You don’t keep your straightness to yourself do you? Then why should they have to keep their sexual orientation to theirselves? The insensitivity and arrogance here repulses me :eek:
Aberrant sexual behaviour is evil in the eyes of God as we are instructed in the Holy Bible and acting on evil impulses cannot be condoned or tolerated. Most people do not discuss or extol their sexual preferences nor should they. Nothing “perfectly normal” about fornication between unmarried people. Marriage is a holy union reserved for a man and a woman as this union is the only one that has the possibility of producing offspring and is a total commitment and covenant between the spouses and God. If you are a Catholic, please read up on this important issue and follow God’s laws.
 
No! They can’t get married. It’s perfectly normal. You don’t keep your straightness to yourself do you? Then why should they have to keep their sexual orientation to theirselves? The insensitivity and arrogance here repulses me :eek:
Of course people who engage in homosexual behavior can get married, subject to the same restrictions that apply to all Americans regardless of race,creed, gender or country of National origin. The ignorance of the law here repulses me.
 
Its amazing that a majority of voters in the poll actually believe tha gays have the same (or even more?!) rights than straight people. I’ll give an example as to why that simply isn’t true. A lesbian women at my work has a long term partner and a son with said partner. Her partner got sick and needed someone to take care of her for a few months. My co-worker was fired for job abandonment because she was denied FMLA. If my wife was sick, I can take leave and my job is protected by the Family and Medical Leave Act. But the law doesn’t give her thy same protections it gives me and my family. That is just one real life example of how gays do not have equal rights under the law in the USA.
 
Its amazing that a majority of voters in the poll actually believe tha gays have the same (or even more?!) rights than straight people. I’ll give an example as to why that simply isn’t true. A lesbian women at my work has a long term partner and a son with
h said partner. Her partner got sick and needed someone to take care of her for a few months. My co-worker was fired for job abandonment because she was denied FMLA. If my wife was sick, I can take leave and my job is protected by the Family and Medical Leave Act. But the law doesn’t give her thy same protections it gives me and my family. That is just one real life example of how gays do not have equal rights under the law in the USA.
If you left your job to take care of someone not covered by the FLA you would be fired also. Your friend has the exact same rights all Americans do regardless of race,creed, gender or country of national origin
 
If you left your job to take care of someone not covered by the FLA you would be fired also. Your friend has the exact same rights all Americans do regardless of race,creed, gender or country of national origin
That’s the point .The law discriminates between my family and hers. What you are saying is is unreasonable. That we are equal under the law beacuse the law doesn’t treat us equally.
 
If gay people had all the rights of straight people , the church’s position would be forgive the sin and love the sinner, not hate the sin and love the sinner.

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That’s the point .The law discriminates between my family and hers. What you are saying is is unreasonable. That we are equal under the law beacuse the law doesn’t treat us equally.
A couple shacking up isn’t covered by the FLA either nor is any other unrelated couple living together. Are they victims of unjust discrimination? Should there be no limits to who is covered by the FLA?
 
A couple shacking up isn’t covered by the FLA either nor is any other unrelated couple living together. Are they victims of unjust discrimination? Should there be no limits to who is covered by the FLA?
A couple that is “shacking up” has the same opportunity to recieve the benefits of FMLA. They need only get married. Only takes $30 and a trip to the courthouse. Can be done in 20 mins. That’s if their straight. Gays not so blessed. Gays families are families too. But they do not have equality under the law.
 
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