Do Homosexuals Have The Equal Rights in the USA?

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A couple that is “shacking up” has the same opportunity to recieve the benefits of FMLA. They need only get married. Only takes $30 and a trip to the courthouse. Can be done in 20 mins. That’s if their straight. Gays not so blessed. Gays families are families too. But they do not have equality under the law.
So you believe homosexuals who shack up should have more rights than heterosexuals who shack up?

What restrictions on marriage apply to those who engae in homosexual behavior do not likewise apply to those who engage in heterosexual behavior?
 
So you believe homosexuals who shack up should have more rights than heterosexuals who shack up?

What restrictions on marriage apply to those who engae in homosexual behavior do not likewise apply to those who engage in heterosexual behavior?
I believe that homosexuals who shack up shopuld have the same rights as heteros who shack up. Both should have the right to go get married.

The rights of the family extend to the rights of individuals. The law recognizes that families have rights. One example is FMLA. I have the right not to be fired if my family needs medical care. But gay couples are denied those same rights.
 
Of course people who engage in homosexual behavior can get married, subject to the same restrictions that apply to all Americans regardless of race,creed, gender or country of National origin. The ignorance of the law here repulses me.
WOW… You actually think gays can get married???
BAHAHAHAHAHA no
 
WOW… You actually think gays can get married???
BAHAHAHAHAHA no
Of course they can-subject to the exact same conditions that apply to all Amercians regardless of race, creed, gender or country of national origin
 
I believe that homosexuals who shack up shopuld have the same rights as heteros who shack up. Both should have the right to go get married.
People who enage in homosexual behavior who shack up have the exact same right to marry as do heterosexuals who shack up.
The rights of the family extend to the rights of individuals. The law recognizes that families have rights. One example is FMLA. I have the right not to be fired if my family needs medical care. But gay couples are denied those same rights.
People who enage in homosexual behavior have the same rights under FMLA as do heterosezuals. You seem to beleive we should carve out an exception homosexuals who are shacking up-which is the kind of “special rights” for people who enage in homosexual behavior we have been referering to
 
A couple that is “shacking up” has the same opportunity to recieve the benefits of FMLA. They need only get married. Only takes $30 and a trip to the courthouse. Can be done in 20 mins. That’s if their straight. Gays not so blessed. Gays families are families too. But they do not have equality under the law.
That is not correct, she can use FMLA if she qualifies and if the parent, child, or spouse has a qualifed condition. Same is true of the married, single, and/or “shacking up”
 
Ok I don’t know what kind of delusion some of you are under, but guys aren’t allowed to marry guys, and girls aren’t allowed to marry girls, except in Iowa and a few other states but hopefully everywhere soon. Otherwise it’s not really “liberty and justice for all” now is it?
 
I don’t know how anyone can seriously argue that homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals in the US. Some states (Virginia comes to mind) have even passed laws forbidding same sex couples from entering into private contractual arrangements with each other - such as agreeing to own all their property jointly, etc. And many states have refused to extend the rights most Americans take for granted to gay people, for example in many states it remains legal to refuse to rent or sell property to gay people.

I know that many here think this kind of discrimination is justifiable, and they have a right to that opinion. But they don’t have a right to their own facts, and I don’t see how anyone can say there is no legally sanctioned discrimination against homosexuals in the US.
 
Ok I don’t know what kind of delusion some of you are under, but guys aren’t allowed to marry guys, and girls aren’t allowed to marry girls, except in Iowa and a few other states but hopefully everywhere soon. Otherwise it’s not really “liberty and justice for all” now is it?
There are a multiude of conditons one must meet in order to marry but affirming you dont enage in homosexual behavior is not one of them. People who enage in homosexual behavior have the exact same right marry as do all americans regardless of race , creed , gender or country of national origin.
 
I don’t know how anyone can seriously argue that homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals in the US. Some states (Virginia comes to mind) have even passed laws forbidding same sex couples from entering into private contractual arrangements with each other - such as agreeing to own all their property jointly, etc. And many states have refused to extend the rights most Americans take for granted to gay people, for example in many states it remains legal to refuse to rent or sell property to gay people.

I know that many here think this kind of discrimination is justifiable, and they have a right to that opinion. But they don’t have a right to their own facts, and I don’t see how anyone can say there is no legally sanctioned discrimination against homosexuals in the US.
Do you have a link for that? I dont believe any State has a law stateing people who enage in homosexual beahvior cant own property jointly . I own property jointly with other people and no on ever asked us about our sex life.
 
I don’t know how anyone can seriously argue that homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals in the US. Some states (Virginia comes to mind) have even passed laws forbidding same sex couples from entering into private contractual arrangements with each other - such as agreeing to own all their property jointly, etc. And many states have refused to extend the rights most Americans take for granted to gay people, for example in many states it remains legal to refuse to rent or sell property to gay people.

I know that many here think this kind of discrimination is justifiable, and they have a right to that opinion. But they don’t have a right to their own facts, and I don’t see how anyone can say there is no legally sanctioned discrimination against homosexuals in the US.
The post makes no sense. many spouses have been surprised to learn the other spouse has created a large debt for which they are liable, yes liable without knowledge. SSA’s cannot transfer their personal debt to an unknowing lover, sorry? I do not believe Virginia has outlawed all forms of partnerships. My guess is your looking for the ability to sue financiers for refusing to accept some loan applications?
 
Do you have a link for that? I dont believe any State has a law stateing people who enage in homosexual beahvior cant own property jointly . I own property jointly with other people and no on ever asked us about our sex life.
The post makes no sense. many spouses have been surprised to learn the other spouse has created a large debt for which they are liable, yes liable without knowledge. SSA’s cannot transfer their personal debt to an unknowing lover, sorry? I do not believe Virginia has outlawed all forms of partnerships. My guess is your looking for the ability to sue financiers for refusing to accept some loan applications?
The Virginia law is called the Affirmation of Marriage Act. It is part of the same law that prohibits same-sex marriage. Virginia legislators were concerned that gay people that could not marry would use their wills, joint property ownership and other perfectly legal contracts to enter into contractual relationships that give some of the rights and responsibilities of marriage. The law forbids people of the same sex from entering into any contractual arrangments that do that. Most people believe it prohibits gay people from entering into contracts that would be perfectly legal for others. I don’t know how (or if) it is being enforced.

I take it neither of you deny it is legal in many states to refuse to sell or rent to people because they are gay?
 
There are a multiude of conditons one must meet in order to marry but affirming you dont enage in homosexual behavior is not one of them. People who enage in homosexual behavior have the exact same right marry as do all americans regardless of race , creed , gender or country of national origin.
Yeah if two guys are trying to get married to each other can they?
 
The Virginia law is called the Affirmation of Marriage Act. It is part of the same law that prohibits same-sex marriage. Virginia legislators were concerned that gay people that could not marry would use their wills, joint property ownership and other perfectly legal contracts to enter into contractual relationships that give some of the rights and responsibilities of marriage. The law forbids people of the same sex from entering into any contractual arrangments that do that. Most people believe it prohibits gay people from entering into contracts that would be perfectly legal for others. I don’t know how (or if) it is being enforced.

I take it neither of you deny it is legal in many states to refuse to sell or rent to people because they are gay?
no,

*The General Assembly hereby concludes that the Commonwealth of Virginia is under no constitutional or legal obligation to recognize a marriage, civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement purporting to bestow any of the privileges or obligations of marriage under the laws of another state or territory of the United States unless such marriage conforms to the laws of this Commonwealth. *

The law prohibits nothing, the law rejects out of state marriages inside the state of Virginia that do not conform to Virginia’s marriage laws. An example is two men married to each other in Hawaii will not have their “Hawian Marriage” recognized in Virginia. Virginia considers these men as 2 single men. I am sure it will be challenged in US courts and we will see what happens.
 
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I take it neither of you deny it is legal in many states to refuse to sell or rent to people because they are gay?
In most States people have wide latitude as to who to rent to or sale to-as long as they do not discriminate based on race, gender, creed or country of national origin. People who enage in homosexual behavior are not singled out. I, for instance, wont rent to an umarried couple as experience shows they are far more likley to damage the house or walk the lease thatn a married couple is.
 
Yeah if two guys are trying to get married to each other can they?
In some states they can be civilly married. Both men can marry women, but not both men to the same woman at the same time ( I guess that is discrimination against married women?). Why don’t we protest the discrimination of bus boys verses CEOs? Why should a bus boy only get $7.50/hr when CEO’s get millions, isn’t discrimination the only answer?
 
Yeah if two guys are trying to get married to each other can they?
No-nor may he Marry his Mother, his sister, his brother , a woman who is already married , someone under the age of consent or a person who is not mentally competent-the exact same conditions that apply to all Amercians regardless of race, creed, gender or country of national origin.
 
Yeah if two guys are trying to get married to each other can they?
No they can’t. But it doesn’t matter what their sexual orientation is. Two heterosexual guys can’t marry each other, nor can two homosexual guys marry each other. How is that discrimination? They are exactly the same.

Peace

Tim
 
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