Do Muslims Worship the True God?

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As I Bahai, I believe in the same one God of the Jews, Christians and Muslims.

What about you? Do you accept that?
 
Ontheway said:
Not so. Me thinks there is a contradiction here. Here is what you wrote in the previous post. "
We now have 1.6 billion people not divided in any way about their own religions God. He is Allah, the Father. All 1.6 billion agree with that. "

All Muslims agree that Allah is the Father? Not one Muslim will agree with that. This is simply not true.
Your original statement is wrong, as is your follow up.
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Here is a very recent post here on CAF from hasantas, our resident Muslim.
hasantas said:
OK. Qur’an does not elaborate about Trinity. But Qur’an say not to associate other deities beside God! So if someone claim for other being to be part of divinity then it conflict with Qur’an. There is no need for deatils of that thought.

**Father is God and there is no any other God. **If you stand at that point so there is no problem. But if you claim for a human to be God then that conflict with Qur’an indeed not just with Qur’an also it conflict with both OT and NT. Jesus was % 100 human.

And you accept that scholars could not establish faith. That is very good. So you have to prove that God had given scholars authority to establish faith. Be careful! That is not way of God and God convey authority through scriptures but not by uncertain ways. It is not reliable to assert that scholars got authority through oral but not by scripture.

Faith is the most important fact in universe. God had sent thousands of prophets before Church to inform that God is one. And those knowledges are in previous scripture. And after Jesus God had sent Qur’an and nearly one-third of Qur’an state about Tawhid which means God is one and no split in divinity.

Now! In what should we believe? Should we believe in people or scriptures?

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ialsop said:
Triune God? That is revealed in both the OT and NT, no contradiction here.
Circumcision? Blood atonement for sins, first practiced in that form, but only as a prefiguring of Christ’s Cross. No contradiction.
Original Sin? I don’t understand this. There is no difference in OT vs NT about this.
The Messiah IS God. Both OT and NT agree.
law of divorce? Jesus explained that Moses allowed divorce, but God never did.
Sabbath? Still here. We just moved it. No contradiction…

I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove.
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It’s outside the scope of this thread.

We can move on thankyou.

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ialsop said:
I apologize to you and to all the other Catholics here for giving a bad witness.
Catholics are unified in doctrine, it is just that not all of us know what the Church believes. For example just now I myself was incorrect. But we are ALL unified under final submission to the CCC.
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That’s a warming post thankyou.

I have a lot of hope for Catholics, you scared me there 😃

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Servant19 said:
Here is a very recent post here on CAF from hasantas, our resident Muslim.
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The same Hasantas that remarked " The Bahai are worse in understanding God than Christians " something to that effect. That’s why you have to deal with Muslims than Catholics about God.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
The same Hasantas that remarked " The Bahai are worse in understanding God than Christians " something to that effect. That’s why you have to deal with Muslims than Catholics about God.

MJ
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Like many Muslims, hasantas hasn’t read a word from Baha’u’llah on the subject.

Conjecture, conjecture if that’s what he said.

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MartinJordan said:
This is called changing goal posts.

MJ
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No dear friend.

Changing goal posts is when I quote a Muslim as saying that the Father is the same God as Allah, and you start talking about how he views Baha’is…irrelevant, off topic, and changing goal posts 🙂

Fact of the matter is, hasantas believes that the Father is Allah.
How Muslims view Baha’is is not the subject of the goalposts of this thread.

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Servant19 said:
No dear friend.

Changing goal posts is when I quote a Muslim as saying that the Father is the same God as Allah, and you start talking about how he views Baha’is…irrelevant, off topic, and changing goal posts 🙂
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Can you quote your message to Hasantas that since he didn’t read Bahai literature to understand what Muslims should?
Fact of the matter is, hasantas believes that the Father is Allah.
How Muslims view Baha’is is not the subject of the goalposts of this thread.
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That’s because he gets some sort of understanding from reading the NT but then avoids the rest of the verse. Which Islam literature claims God as Father anyway?

MJ
 
worldcitizen said:
Thanks for answering that.

So are we Baha’is your brothers too as we believe in one God?

What about Muslims?
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Your religion does not come into play here. We are all creatures of God. You are my brother not because of your religion, but as a creature of God.
 
Servant19 said:
Here is a very recent post here on CAF from hasantas, our resident Muslim.
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I can’t speak for Hasantas, but Muslims claim to be slaves of God and not children of God. The nature of the relationship is very different.
I don’t know what he means by “Father” in the above quote.
 
Ontheway said:
Your religion does not come into play here. We are all creatures of God. You are my brother not because of your religion, but as a creature of God.
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That is awesome and so spiritually pure an attitude. Thank you brother.
 
worldcitizen said:
There is only one God and creator. Muslims believe in the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.

People call God by different names in different languages but there is only one creator and one God. Everyone believes in the same God unless they are worshipping idols.

The prophets and their messages may be different but they were all sent by the same God.
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Ontheway said:
I can’t speak for Hasantas, but Muslims claim to be slaves of God and not children of God. The nature of the relationship is very different.
I don’t know what he means by “Father” in the above quote.
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“Slaves” is not a sufficient translation of “abd”. The term “Servant” is more suitable but yet not enough. “Abd”(which you translate as slave) means that human is creature of God. And God maintain all needs of human so human is “abd”. And human should worship only God because God is İlah(deity) and human is abd(creature). I do not know if I could explain.

What is relation between abd and slave? It is that: slave has to obey and perform what master order. So our master is God and we have to do what God ordered. So that relation is metaphorical.
 
hasantas said:
“Slaves” is not a sufficient translation of “abd”. The term “Servant” is more suitable but yet not enough. “Abd”(which you translate as slave) means that human is creature of God. And God maintain all needs of human so human is “abd”. And human should worship only God because God is İlah(deity) and human is abd(creature). I do not know if I could explain.

What is relation between abd and slave? It is that: slave has to obey and perform what master order. So our master is God and we have to do what God ordered. So that relation is metaphorical.
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Servant is good. A true servant shows complete humility to His Master and would give all His Love in that Service.

Knowing His Master only wishes the best for him, he will always apply the rules of his Master to his life.

Regards Tony
 
I think the Question should be " Do Christians Worship the True God?"

Bceause they have different thoughts about God!
 
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