Do Orthodox believe Catholic infant baptism by pouring (not immersion) to be valid?

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By the way I just love that last photo Hesychios. It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, “baby shower!”
 
Faithdancer said:
So, the baby’s head isn’t submerged then? Judging from the photos, it doesn’t appear so. And it looks like that one baby is enjoying it!
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In the Baptisms I’ve seen, in video and in person, the baby usually goes all the way under. I think in one I saw online the priest kept the baby’s head above water. I know my priest dunks 'em all the way in.
 
Faithdancer said:
So, the baby’s head isn’t submerged then?
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No, they are all fully immersed.

The head goes under three times.

I have seen this on several occasions (although I have been Orthodox only six years), it is always a total dunking.
 
Hesychios said:
No, they are all fully immersed.

The head goes under three times.

I have seen this on several occasions (although I have been Orthodox only six years), it is always a total dunking.
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If you look at the videos I posted, Fr. Roman doesn’t dunk the baby’s head. And his parish pretty much is as Orthodox as a Catholic parish can ever get. His parish is probably closer to Orthodox traditions than Ukrainian Orthodox parishes.
 
Well, I’ve also seen pictures of infants underwater in swimming pools, so I guess the breath hold reflex works just as well in Orthodox baptism. Learn something new every day!
 
Faithdancer said:
Well, I’ve also seen pictures of infants underwater in swimming pools, so I guess the breath hold reflex works just as well in Orthodox baptism. Learn something new every day!
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There was an instance a year or two ago when a baby died while being baptized by an Orthodox priest. Although those instances are rare.
 
ConstantineTG said:
If you look at the videos I posted, Fr. Roman doesn’t dunk the baby’s head. And his parish pretty much is as Orthodox as a Catholic parish can ever get. His parish is probably closer to Orthodox traditions than Ukrainian Orthodox parishes.
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My old eastern Catholic pastor did not dunk the babies head either. He immersed the baby bottom and used a big pitcher to flood the head (but apparently not much on the face) three times. So you can imagine the shock I had when I saw the first Orthodox baptism (I was still Catholic, but visiting a parish), the baby was totally nude went right down DUNK! below the water line and came out wriggling and wet from tip to toe, then DUNK again two more times …

It was an impressive thing to witness.
 
ConstantineTG said:
There was an instance a year or two ago when a baby died while being baptized by an Orthodox priest. Although those instances are rare.
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I remember e news story of a renegade Black Catholic priest attempting it, the incident was reported here on CAF, but I don’t recall anything like that from an Orthodox priest.
 
Hesychios said:
My old eastern Catholic pastor did not dunk the babies head either. He immersed the baby bottom and used a big pitcher to flood the head (but apparently not much on the face) three times. So you can imagine the shock I had when I saw the first Orthodox baptism (I was still Catholic, but visiting a parish), the baby was totally nude went right down DUNK! below the water line and came out wriggling and wet from tip to toe, then DUNK again two more times …

It was an impressive thing to witness.
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Once I saw the baby was immersed in a cradled position on the arms but it wasn’t a full immersion. The baby’s face wasn’t under the water.

I’d go for what Fr. Roman does, I’ll have my next child (God willing) baptized that way in our parish. Our priest told me a lot of the parents agree to immersion initially but always at the last minute backs out.
Hesychios said:
I remember e news story of a renegade Black Catholic priest attempting it, the incident was reported here on CAF, but I don’t recall anything like that from an Orthodox priest.
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topix.com/forum/world/serbia/TLNRR6DA9RRC9J9EC
 
WesleyF said:
Do Christians receive the Holy Spirit at baptism or not?
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I voted yes because that is the desired outcome, but it all depends
The whole processs of preparation for baptism makes one receptive to receive the Holy Spirit.
Those who just go throught he motions are not eligible, so to speak.
 
I’m a orthodox Catholic Christian, not an Orthodox Christian, so I voted “Something Else” just so I could see the results of our Orthodox Christian brothers & sisters. Glad to see that they say, “Yes” 🙂
 
This problem give me an idea. In the future, when addressing a specific population it would be a good idea to place a choice for “does not apply” or as in this case "I’m not Orthodox but would like to follow. Some of us, 😃 [like me], just aren’t smart enough to do anything else.
 
You can just click on the “view poll results” button the right side of the poll. You don’t have to vote to see the results.
 
Cider said:
You can just click on the “view poll results” button the right side of the poll. You don’t have to vote to see the results.
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Yea, but that would require thought… I’m not always inclined to think, but I try.😉
 
Can someone provide me a link to an orthodox Orthodox page that says that Christians receive the Holy Spirit at baptism?
 
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