Do Polygamists go to hell?

[Ryan29]

With all this talk of the Mormon Texas compound in the news and what they did to those innocent children. What does the Catholic church say about polygmy and how do these people say they are Christians if they are treating God’s children the way they are?

It’s highly disturbing details in the news.

Thanks.

 

[tealblue]

Here is what the catachism of the CC tells us.

2387 The predicament of a man who, desiring to convert to the Gospel, is obliged to repudiate one or more wives with whom he has shared years of conjugal life, is understandable. However polygamy is not in accord with the moral law." [Conjugal] communion is radically contradicted by polygamy; this, in fact, directly negates the plan of God which was revealed from the beginning, because it is contrary to the equal personal dignity of men and women who in matrimony give themselves with a love that is total and therefore unique and exclusive."179 The Christian who has previously lived in polygamy has a grave duty in justice to honor the obligations contracted in regard to his former wives and his children.

I think this sums it up.And as to there eternal destination only God will judge these people.I can only hope for their repentance.

Hope this helps.

 

[Holly3278]

I personally don’t believe God is going to condemn someone for practicing polygamy. However, He would be very angry with someone for having sex with minors and doing the things that the FLDS sect does.

 

[bilop]

I personally don’t believe God is going to condemn someone for practicing polygamy. However, He would be very angry with someone for having sex with minors and doing the things that the FLDS sect does.

Polygamy is nothing more than adultery. It would seem to be, in almost all cases, a mortal sin. Therefore, if unrepented, would most likely lead to damnation.

Having sex with a “minor” would be fornication, unless the minor was married (many societies, including our own, allow 15-16 years old to marry under certain conditions), also a moratl sin. Otherwise, this fornication would seem to be the same as any other, unless force/rape was involved.

We can’t judge any one particular person’s eternal fate. But, in general, unrepentent adulterers/polygamists/fornicators would be damned.

God Bless

 

[ForwardProgress]

Um…didn’t Moses have more than one wife? Didn’t Jesus converse with he and Elijah on the mount when He was Transfigured? I think that means one polygamous man is in heaven…

 

[rwoehmke]

We can’t judge any one particular person’s eternal fate. But, in general, unrepentent adulterers/polygamists/fornicators would be damned.
God Bless

Now there is a judgemental statement if I ever heard one. “We can’t be certain of a particular person’s eternal fate. But in general unrepentant adulterers/polygamists/fornicators would be damned.” If they belonged to a faith that taught that polygamy was not sinful and in fact a good thing and believed that, why would they be repentant. On what basis then would they generally be condemned to hell? Seems like a similar situation for the suicide bombers, who believe in actual fact that they are martyrs. How can one impute to them full knowledge of their sin? I am a firm believer that those of us who make it to heaven are going to have some surprises when we learn who some of our neighbors are.

 

[Ryan29]

I personally don’t believe God is going to condemn someone for practicing polygamy. However, He would be very angry with someone for having sex with minors and doing the things that the FLDS sect does.

Then if God doesn’t condemn a person for polygamy then what about promiscuity?

 

[GraceDK]

With all this talk of the Mormon Texas compound in the news and what they did to those innocent children. What does the Catholic church say about polygmy and how do these people say they are Christians if they are treating God’s children the way they are?

It’s highly disturbing details in the news.

Thanks.

Not likely if we are logical.
See, Abraham had two wives… I don’t assume he is in hell.
Also its known that polygamy and concubinage was used even in Christian countries up untill the high middleages. And it is believe it or not, still used in some Christian cultures… or rather its tolerated…

But according to the GOSPEL I think we can agree that the Fullness of Revelation through revealing the nature of Love has also revealed what marriage is really all about… that includes that its an exclusive covenant between two people… seen in the light of love…
But love in marriage is also said to be a late invention
… … complicated matter… but God teaches His people through the Church about the sublime calling for men and women to live in the fullness of Love…

 

[manualman]

Two separate issues!

1. Polygamy is grave matter. Those who do it knowingly commit mortal sin. Dying in mortal sin means hell. The bible shows OLD Testament figures living in Polygamous marriages. Revelation had not yet been clearly made that this was wrong, so they didn’t commit it knowlingly.
2. Nobody knows whether another who commits a sin in the ‘grave matter’ column does it with full knowledge and consent. Therefore, we can’t say if any particular person would go to hell for it. Well, scratch that. If I marry multiple women and die unrepentant, I’m going straight to hell. I know better than that, so I’d have no excuse!

Betcha quite a few of these folks read the bible a lot, believed in Jesus as their personal savior and STILL managed not to realize that polygamy was heinous. Chock up another one in the LOSS column for those who think the Holy Spirit will ensure proper interpretation of the bible in all believers…

 

[6glargento]

one thing though, is that many of theose young men were brainwashed into thinking that polygamy was part of God’s will and that they would be damned if the DIDN’T do it. In polygamist cults, often marriages would be arrainged by the “prophet” and you were obligated to follow him or possibly face harsh punishment. the fact is, in that culture it would be hard for a person to come to the realization that that behavior is wrong

 

[DJgang]

According to the Church, they will go to hell if they die in mortal sin. Bottom line.

 

[bilop]

Now there is a judgemental statement if I ever heard one. “We can’t be certain of a particular person’s eternal fate. But in general unrepentant adulterers/polygamists/fornicators would be damned.” If they belonged to a faith that taught that polygamy was not sinful and in fact a good thing and believed that, why would they be repentant. On what basis then would they generally be condemned to hell? Seems like a similar situation for the suicide bombers, who believe in actual fact that they are martyrs. How can one impute to them full knowledge of their sin? I am a firm believer that those of us who make it to heaven are going to have some surprises when we learn who some of our neighbors are.

Because these are natural law moral issues. Murder, suicide, murder are crimes against the natural law, which is considered to be written in the heart of all men.

These people also have access to the new testament, and know the Church and general society condemns polygamy. They have an obligation to find out why.

How is this judgemental? If you die in unrepentent mortal sin, you go to hell. We don’t know if any specific person repents or not. So we can’t judge an individual.

God Bless

 

[bilop]

Um…didn’t Moses have more than one wife? Didn’t Jesus converse with he and Elijah on the mount when He was Transfigured? I think that means one polygamous man is in heaven…

Jesus changed the moral law on more than one issue. The ancient Jews had slaves and committed genocide too.

God Bless

 

[Mystic_of_God]

With all this talk of the Mormon Texas compound in the news and what they did to those innocent children. What does the Catholic church say about polygmy and how do these people say they are Christians if they are treating God’s children the way they are?

It’s highly disturbing details in the news.

Thanks.

Polygamy is a mortal sin.

Need we say more?

 

[MonkeyFriend]

Monkey Friend ask, where polygamy called mortal sin? Jesus says one man, one woman, but no say if more is mortal sin. Monkeys like to monkey around. Hope we no sin.

 

[HashemEchad]

With all this talk of the Mormon Texas compound in the news and what they did to those innocent children. What does the Catholic church say about polygmy and how do these people say they are Christians if they are treating God’s children the way they are?

It’s highly disturbing details in the news.

Thanks.

If polygamists go to hell, then what happens to King David, King Solomon, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and many other Biblical figures?

One thing people do not understand about polygamy (actually, the correct term is polygyny): unfortunately, due to the recent Mormon offshoot sects, polygamy is erroneously seen as being synonymous with pedophilia and marriage to underage girls. The two have NOTHING in common except when certain cults make it so.

I have met polygamous men and women in my time who were not Mormons, and who got married when they were in their 20s and 30s. No underage marriages there at all.

Also, IF people live in a country where polygamy is LEGAL (such as some Muslim countries), it is not adultery if a man marries more than one woman.

It is only adultery or bigamy when a man marries more than one woman in a place where doing so is NOT LEGAL.

If a man is LEGALLY MARRIED to two women in a country where doing so is LEGAL, it cannot be termed adultery.

Bigamy is when a man marries two women, and the women do not know about each other.

 

[Mystic_of_God]

Monkey Friend ask, where polygamy called mortal sin? Jesus says one man, one woman, but no say if more is mortal sin. Monkeys like to monkey around. Hope we no sin.

Use your monkey logic.

Polygamy is an insult to marriage, as is adultery, pornography, and all sexual sins. I think polygamy should be in the same status

 

[MonkeyFriend]

Use your monkey logic.

Polygamy is an insult to marriage, as is adultery, pornography, and all sexual sins. I think polygamy should be in the same status

Monkey Friend confused. Where polygamy condemned in Bible? God condemn sexual sin but Abraham and Moses polygamists and God ok with them. Adulterers stoned but many wives no punishment.

 

[rwoehmke]

Natural Law, written on the heart or no, it is obvious that the ban on polygamy is not universal across the three religions that follow the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Islam allows up to at least four wives if the husband can afford their upkeep. Some Jews from Islamic countries are still polygamous. One of the two main branches of Judaism allowed polygamy up to about the end of the first millinium. The other never did ban it. When Jews from Muslim areas have more than one wife migrate to Israel the government turns a blind eye. Based on the Old Testament their are groups in Israel agitating for the country to return to this practice of their biblical forefathers. There are sources for all this info on the internet. Just use Google.

I am not in favor of polygamy. One wife at a time is enough. Indeed I accept and believe that Jesus forbade it, but not every conscientious person in this world would agree that it is a serious sin if any sin at all.

As for the practice of suicide bombing being murder. I am sure that in the mind of the bomber it is no more murder than it would be for one of us to shoot and kill someone attacking us. Before we condemn whole groups of people to hell we need to step out of our mid-american frame of reference. Of course it doesn’t change the morality of the act, but it does impact the level of guilt. If we don’t believe this, why do we prattle about the three things necessary for one to commit a mortal sin…

 

[bilop]

Monkey Friend confused. Where polygamy condemned in Bible? God condemn sexual sin but Abraham and Moses polygamists and God ok with them. Adulterers stoned but many wives no punishment.

St. Matthew, Ch 19.

3 And there came to him the Pharisees tempting him, and saying: Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4 Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? And he said: 5 For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.

6 Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.

7 They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put away? 8 He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery.

With the New Covenant of Jesus Christ the moral law was changed. Divorce, slavery, etc. were allowed under the old law, but not the new. Remember, no one was in heaven until Jesus descended to the limbo of the patriarchs to preach to them. Abraham and Moses had to accept Jesus, and likely repent their sins, before they were allowed into heaven.

If a man and woman become one flesh, how can that man marry another woman? Can he be one flesh with two woman at the same time?

I can’t believe people are defending polygamy. It is clearly adultery, and grave matter. Once you’re married, the 2nd marriage is invalid. Otherwise, divorce and remarriage wouldn’t be a problem.

God Bless